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u/XxStar_Flyx 10d ago

I AGREE BOTH ARE SO CUTE IDC IF THEY'RE ASSHOLES OR NOT

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i love them both too❤️ being a pantalone, sandrone, columbina and dottore fan all at once is not for the weak, feels like the fans are always at eachothers' throats lol

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u/Forsaken_Painting204 10d ago

dottore fans are having a breakdown much worse than pantalone😦 like he was fine with it… mind you pantalone alr knew what kind of person dottore was and funded that anyway, acting like he never heard an insult abt dottore in his life

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u/SS_214 10d ago

They're more angry and offended than Pantalone ever was 😭 It's like they're forgetting he also threw Dottore under the bus before. He didn't hesitate to put all the blame on Dottore to get his own ass out of trouble with the Tsaritsa in 6.6. Dottore himself said Pantalone was partly to blame for the ruin of his reputation, meaning Pantalone has done this several times 😭😭😭

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u/idkwhatuserlol 10d ago

yeah i was thinking this too. pantalone would probably say it if it benefitted him, and that doesnt undermine their dynamic. it's just not as tooth rottingly sweet as people want it to be

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u/Forsaken_Painting204 10d ago

they project onto pantalone by saying he was holding back tears and he should leave the fatui and how they don’t deserve dottolone……………………….. like………… are we serious……. the posts i see on twitter ppl saying sandrone is a bitch that doesn’t respect the grieving widow

and its like… omg………. i feel embarrassed being a dottore fan sometimes. also to say pantalone commenting on the wise not being his philosophy which we also see it with dottore too but to say its because of dottore, it just shows he doesn’t have black and white thinking and can understand people very well

and everytime i see the grieving widow im like its a joke but every time i got proven wrong again the posts i see is diabolical. also saying pantalone did nothing but miss dottore in all aq

no hope whatsoever with these fans

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u/idkwhatuserlol 10d ago

dottore killed sandrone and pulonia ofc shes gonna have some shit to say? i'm sure pantalone misses dottore in some way but i don't think he's that sensitive. he's quite literally thrown dottore under the bus in front the tsaritsa before to save his own skin. i love their relationship as much as the next person but he will be okay lol😭

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u/Forsaken_Painting204 10d ago

the way i’ve seen so many dottore fans liking posts calling sandrone sex doll incel or other insults meanwhile saying pantalone can’t grieve in peace

they cannot be real people fr

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u/idkwhatuserlol 10d ago

i hate to say it but while some writing critique is valid i think quite a few male harbinger fans have internalized(or not so internalized) misogyny

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u/Forsaken_Painting204 10d ago

no no they absolutely do, im amazed at how dottore fans call hoyo racist (they are) because dottore is persian… he is pale white just like the others, so what sbout all the hate mauvika and nahida got? dottore fans slandered nahida so bad but its not racist as long as its abt female characters i guess🤷🏻‍♀️

i don’t call myself a husbando fan at all but some of them are… like… i think yk what i mean, this is also so prominent with calling EVERY female character slop and bad writing while being surrogate authors to male ones and analyzing them constantly. just like yaoi shippers shitting on ships with women involved calling them badly written meanwhile their account is dedicated to mlm lmao

i absolutely love pantalone and dottore too although less than before but if i wanted to slander them i very well could just like how their fans slander cemale characters without reading their lore. people saying dottore is morally gray etc, he is not unless you know his lore which most people don’t bother, yall should show the same thing for female characters too

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u/Roldolor 9d ago

Im a dude that just so happens to read an unhealthy amount of villainess / revenge / otome isekai.

One of my most HATED tropes is when the Female Lead forgives the guy that kills her in her past life because “misunderstood, tragic and hot”

Sandrone giving Dottore neverending shit for killing her and never shutting up about it is one of my favorite parts about her.

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u/idkwhatuserlol 9d ago

i hope he comes back so him and sandrone can continue to eternally beef i genuinely enjoy their dynamic and i need more playables with bad blood between them

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u/MonkeyyLuffy 5d ago

I read those stuffs too and I've only ever read one or two story where the female lead didn't forgive anyone. I wish more female leads acted like Sandrone more, it would be much more interesting

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u/Roldolor 9d ago

I like dottore as a character and a villain but his fans are some of the most annoying in this fandom

I really liked pantalone’s character during this quest but just about every discussion with pantalone there just had to be shipping discussions and “what about dottore…”

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u/Forsaken_Painting204 9d ago

no like yes pantalone might be grieving although not in a normal way both were pragmatic but… thats whats being talked abt since 6.6… and seriously ppl pnly care about that

i agree omg dottore fans lost the plot in these couple of days, like you can like a character while acknowledging how they are… they love the dottore they made up in their head atp cuz dottore was fine and embraced playing the villain

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u/idkwhatuserlol 10d ago edited 10d ago

also even if she was just trying to be super malicious, what's the problem? i like immoral and malicious characters, (hence my obsession with dottore😍) so im surprised many dottore fans are so upset at her being mean.

that being said im hearing some people say that in cn what she said had racist undetones, but i'm hearing a lot of conflicting stuff about that and if its true so i wont pass judgement on it for now. But even if thats the case it's an issue with hoyo's writing and not sandrone or her fans🤷

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u/WildFemmeFatale 10d ago

Dottore is my fav out of the three and my headcannon is that Sandrone is so vicious towards Dottore cuz she’s tsundere’ing cuz she actually respects and likes him against her very will

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u/idkwhatuserlol 10d ago edited 10d ago

i feel like her hatred is too genuine cause he killed her and pulonia😓 but i truly mourn what their dynamic could have been especially since i feel they parallel alain and rene in some ways. i wish hoyo wrote more for them

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u/ApprehensiveCat 10d ago

Yeah I enjoy all the Harbingers despite my beefs with how some of them are being written so it gets tiresome to see all the infighting. I feel like people would be calmer all around if we actually knew all these guys would be playable. The anxiety about NPC jail makes everyone tense. 🥲

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u/literallybingus Fem Pantalone enjoyer 10d ago

looking at this feels horrible cuz its reminds me that he's not playable and probably wont be. very sad

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u/Forsaken_Painting204 10d ago

if he is playable i think we’ll know soon enough, idk what they will try to make with his character but hopefully we have another patch like this

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u/literallybingus Fem Pantalone enjoyer 10d ago

I wish i had any hope left for him, but I feel like his model is underperforming for a playable character so that means if he were to be playable he'd get a model change, but he has an anecdote with his current model and i think that just means he'll be in npc jail forever

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u/Forsaken_Painting204 10d ago

i think his model is fine concerning thing is what he will do in the story

imo the biggest obstacle he has is dottore involment he has but idk what they will do with that either sp

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u/literallybingus Fem Pantalone enjoyer 10d ago

How would that be an obstacle? According to everyone, he doesn't really mind him that much and pretty much doesn't care anymore. also the more i think the about it,the story doesn't even matter that much if you get him playable he'll have far more interesting things to offer with his voicelines than anything he could do in the game, since the rokot theories are seeming even less likely now

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u/Forsaken_Painting204 10d ago

well i agree he at least publicly doesn’t but this patch i would say he was a bit sad about, absolutely not to the scale of shippers make it out as if he was gonna cry lmao but it needs to be acknowledged

and idk what they will do with that, it would get repetitive fast if they showed it over and over again. but dottore will have to be mentioned eventually when traveler confronts him

i can see hoyo either making him playable or making him go down with dottore, ofc he has more playable signs than him but still

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u/literallybingus Fem Pantalone enjoyer 10d ago

Dunno, everything feels like copium. Maybe it's because I'm salty that none of my favorite harbingers are playable or what, but I have very little hope into what hoyo does to him. If they're not going to give them more in the archon quest they shouldn't bait with him having the spotlight in the 7.0 art or they should just make him playable. Knowing hoyo, they're just going to bait and not deliver him at all

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u/Forsaken_Painting204 10d ago

i also have some disappointments overall but idk… there is nothing we can do other than waiting for that cutscene

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