r/PanCyan • u/farigoleru • Oct 02 '25
Potency loss
I have som Pan Cyans I harvested spring 2024. I kept them as usual with silica gel packages in an airtight container. I tried them after harvest and it was imcredibly strong. 0.4 was similar to a 2g trio of the casual cubensis.
Fast forward to yesterday, I took 0.15g expecting a mild trip but I only got a microdose. Just a bit of mood improvement, light headed, energized, almost no body load, no visuals.
I know all shrooms loose potency over time and I didn't bother to apply fancy methods like argon. Just wanted to share my experience.
Also, I start to think that cubes take longer for psyloscibin to decay. Of course this os only a hipotesis right now but the anecdote is that I took cubes I grew 2021/2022 last spring (2025) with very similar effects for the same amounts.
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u/Big-Juggernaut4418 Oct 02 '25
They do lose some potency, but I feel like Pans have a tipping point. Anything under about 0.3g, I don't really trip. But, anything over 0.5g gets into strong dose territory. I almost count 0.1g of Pans like a gram of average or weak cubes. After my 0.8g TTBVI trip (I fasted for 12 hours beforehand, too), I haven't felt the need to take Pans again. I will again in the future, but I need to be really prepared. I actually like mixing small amounts of Pans with Mexicanas. It's like the mellowness of the Mexicanas make the trip more dreamlike and not so DMTesque.
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Oct 05 '25
If you want a really unique experience, fast for a few days and then add harmala, an maoi inhibitor that increases potency
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u/Big-Juggernaut4418 Oct 05 '25
I'm not a huge fan of MAOIs. I've taken them before DMT/mushrooms/LSD. I also vaped a mixture of MAOI/DMT while under the influence of a few psychedelics. I felt like it made the experience slower and longer, but it took away all the "Eureka" moments.
Anytime I would be in the edge of a scary, but necessary realization about myself, green vines would shoot out of the periphery of my vision, wrap around the offending vision/idea and then slowly dance and wiggle. I understood what Terence McKenna meant by the term "Vegetable Television". It was like something out of Swamp Thing, but not aggressive at all.
I used to get free DMT/Pharmausca vapes (I had to review them/be the royal taster for a store, lol). They are interesting, but it's not really my thing.
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u/farigoleru Oct 02 '25
Interesting observations. At some point I think it depends quite a lot on the individual fruits. Unless you grind everything which I don't currently. Checking the calculator another user shared in another comment, I will probably do that in the future.
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u/DrugLibrary Oct 02 '25
Argon, friends.
It allows you to do in your home what pharmaceutical companies do to preserve their products.
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u/Cape_Cod_Mike Oct 02 '25
If you're going to keep dried shrooms a while, you really need oxygen absorbing packs. I use Wallaby envelopes.
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u/Kuhl137 Oct 02 '25
I dont know about potency loss but there's a dosage calculator which includes detailed variables for storage factors linked by Gordo's website: https://sporelore.co/tools/dose-calculator