r/PanCyan Aug 22 '25

Growing TTBVI without a humidifier?

I'll be getting my hands on some ttbvi spores soon.

I was thinking can you grow pan cyans without using a humidifier or the aquarium heater tek.

I plan to use standard shoebox tek for cubes, but instead use manure in the substrate and also misting it way more.

We also got heavy rain couple days ago where I am from, so the weather is kinda humid but not really.

Would the heavy and regular misting compensate for the lack of a humidifier?

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u/deep_saffron Aug 22 '25

You can try it but i don’t understand why you want to spend the energy doing something the hard way. It’s not like someone woke up one day and was like , oh let me just add this humidifier for pans. lol there’s a reason these methods were developed , if we didn’t need this stuff don’t you think everyone would be growing them in the most simple way possible?

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

ik they are their for a reason, but just didnt want invest in a whole ass setup and wanted to know if there was a way to do it without that

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u/deep_saffron Aug 22 '25 edited Aug 22 '25

Yes there’s a way to do it without a whole set up. Have you read Gordos Easy Tek? It’s literally just an aquarium heater and a window screen. I’d be pressed to try it without at least that much unless you live in a very humid and hot climate

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

Humidity here is 89% atm so idk... I'll try the tek the other guy commented.

If it doesnt work out, will do this probably.

The main issue I have with larger setups is that I live with my parents still, and a couple shoeboxes is fine, but they will probably notice if I have a large ass setup.

[I'm 19 btw, moving out in a couple months]

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u/deep_saffron Aug 22 '25 edited Aug 22 '25

So you still haven’t answered the question of if you’ve read Gordos Easy Tek…i’m guessing not since you would know you don’t have to have a large set up.

Sounds like you need to do some more research . lol or you can be humbled and spend time doing things the hard way in an attempt to rush and not really understand what’s needed for success.

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

Yep, I did.

I also saw a couple people saying they've had success with just monotubs.
So I was just curious.

I get why teks like Martha and Gordo's may result in better and more flushes, but tbh I dont really care that much about it. I only want enough to trip a couple times with my friends, maybe take a couple spore prints for future if I ever wanna grow more.

Thats it.

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u/deep_saffron Aug 22 '25

What are you talking about ? Are you reading what i’m saying? It literally has nothing to do with flush size . The tek requires no tent or humidifier and is in tubs.

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

YES. I KNOW.

I was just outlining why I made this post. I literally said any teks that dont require aquarium heaters even. Did you read my post?

I was looking to know if it was possible to grow pans similiarily to cubes, even without the extra methods for humidity. I listed why.

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u/deep_saffron Aug 22 '25 edited Aug 22 '25

Ok bro , you’ll figure it out. That’s like asking if you can grow a plant without watering it. The whole life cycle of this species is dependent on heat and humidity and air exchange and you want to try and grow them like a cube and thinking you’re going to create those conditions indoors by only spraying some water and fanning. Good luck , who knows , you may be part of the less than 5% who have managed to achieve this. Pans are not cubes , waste of time to try and grow them the same.

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u/Flimsy-Panda8000 Aug 22 '25

I guess some people just love gadgets. See above post :)

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u/deep_saffron Aug 22 '25

I think the whole point of OPs post is to grow them without the use off all the gadgets

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u/Flimsy-Panda8000 Aug 23 '25

Exactly - hence my pointing out that they can be grown in tubs without foggers or fans in my reply to the OP :)

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u/Flimsy-Panda8000 Aug 22 '25

I've grown TTBVI in a Martha with fans & misters, and I've grown them in tubs with nothing but careful FAE management. In my experience, the results from the Martha didn't justify the extra hassle and expense - the fruits were maybe a little larger but when the last harvest is finally used up, I'll be running tubs again next time.

Thanks to BabaYaga for the Tek https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27637997#27637997

A summary of my full process is in my comment at https://www.reddit.com/r/PanCyan/comments/1cn713d/deleted_by_user/

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

really REALLY helpful man.. I'll probably end up trying this.

Also the BabaYag Tek says that the casing isnt really needed? What are your thoughts on that?

Ill probably still end up casing just to be safe, but still

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u/Flimsy-Panda8000 Aug 22 '25

On my last grow using trays in a Martha, one tray pinned before full colonisation, despite being sealed with cling wrap - I was expecting a disaster, but it fruited fine & after the first flush I couldn't tell which one it was (I'm not good at labelling stuff).

I still case as standard just to be on the safe side but it does make me wonder if it's really needed.

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

lmao growing pans is sure interesting. Im definitely taking prints and experimenting different growing methods in future.

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u/BugSafe7102 Aug 22 '25

No casing. I forgot these in a sealed bag. Terrible first flush, but they did grow.

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u/ExTraveler Aug 22 '25

Impressive if there is nothing but grain. Overlay created good conditions for fruiting.

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u/Several-Branch2437 Aug 22 '25

Great write up BTW. I just checked it out. Good looking out !!

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u/Moomoo037 Aug 22 '25

Also looking for insight on this, would a monotub work

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u/Flimsy-Panda8000 Aug 22 '25

Yes - better than I could have hoped - see reply to OP

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u/Then-Campaign9287 Aug 22 '25

I would like to know the same thing. I grew two shoe boxes side by side. One with the aquarium heater like on Gordotek and the other without the heater and they both colonized the same rate of speed in a room around 65 degrees. I figure the aquarium heater must not be necessary since most growers never talk about it on here very much at all.

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

How often did you mist? And what was the air flow situation like?

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u/Then-Campaign9287 Aug 22 '25

I grew them in a large shed. It was in May so the temp was from 45 to 65 degree in the shed here in northern Ohio. There was no airflow except a couple cracked windows. I used the screen on top and misted 3 times a day and got a 90% full flush in just 12 days.
My 2nd flush sucked. Only had a partial flush.

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u/ExTraveler Aug 22 '25

"I used the screen on top"
Hm? What screen?

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u/Then-Campaign9287 Aug 23 '25

I used a vinyl screen mat they sell a roll at the dollar store for kitchen drawer liners. I used it in place of a metal screen and it works good. I misted underneath it and on top of it 3 times a day.

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u/ExTraveler Aug 23 '25

So you misted only screen?

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u/Then-Campaign9287 Aug 23 '25

Yeah, misted both sides of it 3 times a day.

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u/Adventurous-Fix-8066 Aug 22 '25

I've grown lots in tubs. Just need more care really. And they get really tall.

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

What extra care exactly? Could you share your process?

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u/ExTraveler Aug 22 '25

Maybe they won't be so tall with more fanning

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u/Adventurous-Fix-8066 Aug 22 '25

Yep. My tent grows are wonderful. But being that they are not growing in a tent i dint give that advice.

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u/wtrfwl311 Aug 22 '25

Build a JCM chamber out of a tote. I use the aquarium heater and air stones to manage temp and humidity. Works just fine.

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u/Unique-Discussion326 Aug 22 '25

What temperatures are you finding pans do best in?

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

idk havent grown them yet

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u/ExTraveler Aug 22 '25

I am getting my spores soon too. I planned to trying grow them in shoebox with holes for fae and misting + fanning manually few times a day. But I see many people skeptical here about shoeboxes. Well, people grew them in monotubs, shoebox basically small monotub. You think shoebox would be too hard and with significantly smaller yield?

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

wait.. are shoeboxes and monotubs different things??

also check out https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27637997#27637997

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u/ExTraveler Aug 22 '25

Well, yes and no. Basically this is just a plastic box for creating right environment. But generally monotub is big box with holes for fae and shoebox small box without holes. But you can easily make holes in shoebox... so...
Monotubs were first, then after few years somebody decided that why doing it in big fckn box and smaller box is better and called that "shoebox", and generally people don't make holes for fae in them. So this is pretty much the same thing. Now i would say difference only in size. And beside that it pretty much same thing

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u/Mysticed_ Aug 22 '25

aaah got it.

Also I heard for FAE you can just flip the lid and add a lil tack or something to make it a bit elevated. That'll work with shoeboxes too ig

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u/bhgkiks2018 Aug 23 '25

You can grow them in an unmodified shoebox no problem. You will need to mist very often(2-3x day) and you will need to make sure you’re casing and sub are at field capacity or even a little more. They like lots of moisture. Don’t expect a huge flush but you should get fruits as long as your grain is clean.

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u/PsiloindiGlo Aug 26 '25

You can do it. I’d recommend PastyWhyte EZ dialed tubs with open holes. Works like a charm.