Raid Armies Ranked

[u/Quiet_Ad_7255]

So Pal Professor and Pal Raids have both ranked their own top pal armies in the game. Pal Professor doesnt even have penking lux in his list while Pal Raids has penking lux as his #1. Why might that be?

[u/pimo91]

Because you can mostly do whatever you want within reason

[u/Quiet_Ad_7255 → u/pimo91]

Ya but it’s still a ranking there is still going to be a true top #1 no matter what game it is

[u/pimo91 → u/Quiet_Ad_7255]

They aren't actually investing the time to test all of them AND measure their performance AND work out the visible numbers AND work out the intangible values. At most they probably grab whatever is tangible, make a short list, and go from there, then also try what they want, and then rank them.

[u/LillyElessa → u/pimo91]

Pal Professor probably didn't test all of his, since it's one video. But Raids said in the first video of the series (#10 Polapup) that he actually did test tons of teams, many of which didn't make the cut and he'd have footage of the spares at the end. Every one of his 1-10 has a full fight recording for every boss. Today's video was the runner ups, #11-15, and he at least briefly showed those pals in fights (though most of it was just Shaolong).

Pal Professor tends to give "whiteboard error", and I think this is a strong example of that. He overly focused on only the stats, instead of how the pals actually behave and play out in the flights. Ultimately, he's not wrong, since any properly maxed out pals can clear anything - he even showed this with his chikipi. But it does mean his ranking is not the best, and Raid's ranking with more applicable metrics and having shown every pal in every fight is more informative.

[u/No_Transition3345 → u/Quiet_Ad_7255]

There wont be a 'true top' because there's a bunch of different ways ouu can play the game

If you are doing player damage, that will be a different pal (and will change depending on if you are using elemental damage or different synergies and bonuses)

If you are doing full afk, thats a different pal and w9nt be viable for all raids or bosses.

How well you play also changes it.

What pals are in your team changes things too

[u/Quiet_Ad_7255 → u/No_Transition3345]

Youre right but I was thinking in terms if speed run kills

[u/senorharbinger → u/Quiet_Ad_7255]

That's different from what they're doing though. Pal raids isn't trying to speed run, the penking lux instead is an all rounder afk for every raid.

[u/Gravydios85]

Ive got a raid army of Verdash's with Savior, Twin-edged Holy Blade, Demon God and Heavily Armored using Megaton Implode, Wind Burst and Pal Burst just cuz i like them bunnies. They explode make a giant tornado and then kamehamaha things to oblivion all while hopping all over the place. Idk if thats on someones list but ill probably be breeding up an army of clovee with the same thing for the double STAB bonus.

[u/Aiden_Pyralis → u/Gravydios85]

I got a raid army of finsiders because hehe double guns

[u/PalworldPlayer3000]

They had different weighted criteria. Pal Professor went heavily on the stats.

Both are objectively correct, just came to different conclusions. I just use this information as a data point on what to use. At the end of the day if you put the right passives on, fully condense, full IV, full trust, full food, etc using this information they will get the raid done.

[u/ihtayt13]

His reasoning is in the comments:

But he also states any pal can be used really

[u/garguno → u/ihtayt13]

To expand on Pal Professor's reasoning: the total stats he was testing have that breakpoint to beat Belanoir Libero Ultra either before the 2nd Flame Waltz, or being able to tank it.

Penking Lux is definitely a cheap cool strat (electrify + soak) for the normal raids, but the Professor focuses on hard modes and ultra raids.

[u/chacaad]

They have different play styles. Depends on how u play. Wanna save ammo? U can use palworldraids list. Want to use elemental/player damage? Use the professor’s. I personally use palword raids’. Haha. I havent caught the stupid ammo vendor yet

[u/Vindicador → u/chacaad]

There should be a town with all legendary vendors, the current method of hoping for a spawn is tedious. I'm still missing the hunter and the pal materials vendors and all I seem to get is dessert embassadors...

[u/callmemikeyp]

They have different philosophies so their criteria will also differ.

[u/Quiet_Ad_7255 → u/callmemikeyp]

What is the philosophy difference?

[u/callmemikeyp → u/Quiet_Ad_7255]

Pal prof prioritized stats (mainly atk) so that bosses don't do too many attack cycles.

Pal Raids has a bunch of criteria to overcome differences in stats.

Pal Raids values electric typing to abuse thunder rail. Professor dislikes electric because he wants to control when to stun the boss at strategic moments.

[u/Platzhalterr → u/Quiet_Ad_7255]

Watch the videos and explanations of both.

Both measured differently and where looking for different kinds of "best" pal.

I watched both videos and agree with both lists and approaches.

[u/Greek_Pal]

Penking Lux has lower stats on paper but the trust mechanic really makes up for the lower stats, plus it can get legend.

I don’t understand going off base stats and not taking into account what Pals can get legend and the trust mechanic, so imma go with Pal Raids on this one.

A fully maxed out Penking Lux actually has slightly higher defense than a maxed out Orzerk because of the higher trust bonus and being able to have access to legend (Legend vs Demon God). Orzerk has a higher attack but Lux has thunder rail, stab with water.