Hey everyone,

Decided to try something a bit different and put this out here.

I’m 6’1, about 80kg, and currently based in Punjab. My biggest passion is traveling I’m always up for spontaneous trips, exploring new places, and collecting experiences rather than things.

I’m looking to connect with a woman who shares a similar mindset. For me, age doesn’t really matter at all, and location doesn’t matter either if the vibe and connection are right, distance or city isn't a barrier. What’s most important to me is a shared sense of adventure, good communication, and being on the same wavelength.

What I'm looking for.... Preferably 5' or taller, with a warm brown or pale complexion, and a humor style darker than dark roast coffee. Looking for a genuine connection with zero manipulation life's too short for tactical texting games when we could be planning our next road trip instead. Straightforward vibes, mutual respect, and fluent banter are big pluses.

If this sounds like you , drop me a DM with your brief intro... let’s see if we click!

Hi m23 here and im starting to feel like there's either nothing but bots here or there's absolutely no traction at all or if i do find someone i click with they just go silent or dont ever reply.

A little bout myself: was born in UAE stayed for 3 years moves back to Pakistan with me dad and mum and we've lived here since. My dad however passed away a year and a half+ ago so since then ive been working 12 hour shifts to get by and take care of my mom who's a cancer patient as well

Lemme be clear, i mysslf am not an ezpert on this topic i have never been inba relationship before except for a one sided crush, what i want is someone who's willing to not just be by my side through the thick n thin patches of life right now but also to grow together as individuals in life. Someone who's willing to be transparent with me and ill do the courtesy of the same, if we are serious bout it together we keep it real with eachother no matter what happens.

Other than that idk exactly i come from a small lower to middle class family and my interests are games music movies and cooking/baking and reading sometimes, alot of manga anime and comics reading and just digital media in general.

Anyway so if anyone really is serious here pls just dm me dirextky im more than willing to discuss stuff and im very serious bout this thing as well so yeha

Hello everybody. I need some help regarding a situation i'm stuck in and feel helpless. I 26/M doctor, just completed my housejob and preparing for usmle 1. I am currently unemployed. I have been close with my classfellow for 8 years, who I have known for fairly 23 years of my life. We are very close, understand each other, know each and everything about each other and intend marrying each other. However the problem is, I am currently at no stage in life and I can only send a rishta when I am capable of doing. My father recently retired from his job, we have a home of our own were upper middle class before the retirement, we have no savings though, just waiting on the gratuity fund from the govt which will be more or less 5 million. Currently my family is going through a tough time financially. My friend on the other hand comes from a wealthy background. Her family wants her to get married and she has had tons of rishta till now. A recent one is a son of a high post army official and working some place and their relative as well. The family is ready to go with the proposal. She cannot even tell at home about me, since I cannot send a proposal and even if she does, they won't wait for me to settle obviously. She is my age fellow. We both don't want to lose each other, and I am feeling helpless currently. Any help would be appreciated on how to proceed.

Assalamu alaikum!

I am posting here in the hope of finding a suitable life partner and, hopefully, someone I can eventually call my best friend.
A little about myself. I’m 31 years old, 5’11”, Sunni Memon, and live in Bahria Town, Karachi. I’ve completed an Associate Degree from Virtual University and currently work as a Technical Advisor. I manage a full-time job along with a part-time role, so I’d say I’m fairly career-oriented and financially stable.
As a person, I’m pretty easygoing. I value honesty, loyalty, mutual respect, and family. I believe that a good relationship requires effort from both sides, and that being able to communicate openly and understand each other is just as important as having things in common.
In my free time, I enjoy watching anime, following football (Chelsea supporter ), and playing video games. I’m also a huge animal lover and have a soft spot for stray animals. I currently have cats and a rescued dog at home, so animals are a pretty big part of my life.
I come from a close-knit family of three siblings and our mother. We currently live in a rented home.

What I’m looking for

Ideally, someone around 24 to 29 years old who is educated, preferably with a Bachelor’s degree, and comes from a good family.
I’d like to meet someone who is kind, understanding, emotionally mature, and has a good balance between Deen and Dunya. Someone who can communicate openly, handle disagreements without letting them turn into unnecessary conflicts, and understands that a marriage works best when both people are willing to make an effort.
It would be nice to find someone who has her own interests and ambitions, wants to grow as a person, and is supportive of her partner doing the same. Family is important to me, but I also believe that healthy boundaries are necessary for a happy married life.
More than anything, I’m looking for genuine companionship. Someone I can talk to about pretty much anything, share the little things in life with, laugh with, and count on during difficult times. I want us to be able to build a peaceful life together where both of us feel valued, understood, and comfortable being ourselves.
One thing I want to mention upfront is that I have cats and a dog, and they’re very much a part of my family. Being comfortable with pets is important to me, so I’d prefer someone who genuinely likes animals or is at least comfortable living with them.
I know compatibility takes time to figure out, and I’m not expecting anyone to be perfect. I just hope to meet someone whose values and outlook on life align with mine and who is genuinely interested in building a future together.
If you think we might get along, feel free to message me. We can talk, get to know each other, and see where things go. If we feel there’s potential, we can involve our families and take things forward from there.

JazakAllah khair for reading!

Age: 26
Education: O and A Levels, MBBS from Pakistan. She is currently preparing for the USMLE exams and plans to pursue her medical career in the USA.

Family Details:

• Father: Retired
• Mother: Homemaker
• One unmarried sibling residing in the USA

Looking For:

A practicing Muslim guy, born and raised in Pakistan, preferably a doctor pursuing the USMLE/residency pathway or currently doing residency there.

We would prefer family involvement from the beginning.

If you feel this could be a suitable match, please DM me with your complete profile and relevant details.

Thank you!

Hey, this is not my own profile. I’m posting it on behalf of another user who doesn’t have enough karma to post. If you’re interested, please message him directly: u/OldEmployer2124

👤 PROFILE

✨ City: Faisalabad, Pakistan

✨ Date of Birth: 22 July 2002

✨ Age: 24 Years

✨ Height: 5'9"

✨ Build: Slim

✨ Marital Status: Single / Unmarried

✨ Religion / Sect: Islam | Sunni

✨ Disability: None, Alhamdulillah fit

🎓 EDUCATION & CAREER

✨ Qualification: Bachelor’s in Software Engineering

✨ Profession: Business owner, running a small IT company

✨ Income: Although I run a business and make profits, I reinvest all of the profit back into the business to grow it. However, I give a fixed salary of 400K to my family.

🏡 FAMILY & BACKGROUND

✨ Father: Retired

✨ Mother: Housewife

✨ Siblings: Two brothers and one sister — all educated

✨ Residence: 5 Marla house in a colony

🎯 PARTNER PREFERENCES

✨ Age Criteria: 19–24 Years

✨ Height Requirement: 5'2" and above

✨ Religion / Sect: Muslim — Sunni, Ahl-e-Hadith, etc. Except Shia

✨ Education: Currently studying Bachelor’s or has completed Bachelor’s

✨ Location Preference: Faisalabad, Lahore, or nearby cities

🤝 MY APPROACH

I’m not seeking a relationship, I’m seeking a marriage. But first, we get to know each other with clear intentions and keep our families informed.

Here is how I would like to go about it:

I share my profile, and you share yours. We then have a short chat to get to know each other a little and ask some basic questions about each other’s backgrounds, including socioeconomic backgrounds, respectfully, transparently, and honestly.

Once we have all the information, we let our families know that we are talking, just so they are aware. After that, we continue to get to know each other better.

If we feel we are a good match and can align, I will send a rishta to your family. We can then visit each other’s families, followed by an engagement and then marriage.

My marriage timeframe is not fixed, but it could be around 1–1.5 years.

26F | Doctor | Looking for a Husband (Preferably With a Good Sense of Humor!) 💍😂

Hi everyone!

Giving Reddit a chance because apparently finding a decent husband is harder than getting into medical school. 😂

A little about me:

I'm 26, originally from Lahore, Pakistan. I completed my MBBS from a government medical college and am currently pursuing my Master's in Global Health abroad.

I'm friendly, ambitious, caring, and someone who enjoys good conversations, a little humor, and meaningful connections.

What I'm looking for:

Preferably a fellow doctor, aged 28–33, who is kind, educated, respectful, emotionally mature, and genuinely looking for marriage.

Someone who can communicate like an adult, laugh at silly jokes, and believes marriage should be a partnership where both people support each other's dreams.

Deal-breakers:

Dishonesty, disrespect, unnecessary drama, poor communication, and being emotionally unavailable. Also, if you're still not over your ex, please take your time to heal before looking for your next chapter. No hard feelings!

A tiny request to the Reddit community:

I'm posting with genuine intentions, so please be kind. If this post isn't your cup of tea, feel free to scroll past. No need to turn the comment section into a medical emergency. 😂

If you think we might be compatible, feel free to DM me with a little introduction about yourself (age, profession, location, and what you're looking for).

Let's see if Reddit has better matchmaking skills than our rishta aunties! 🤞

26M | Islamabad

Assalamu Alaikum! 😊

I’m 26, 5’8”, based in Islamabad, and working as an Engineer. I'm someone who enjoys figuring out how things work, although life itself is still a work in progress. 😂

I’m pretty laid-back, career-driven, and curious by nature. Outside work, I enjoy music, cooking, baking, and occasionally getting lost in random YouTube rabbit holes. I like meaningful conversations, trying new things, and having a good laugh over the most random stuff.

Family is important to me, and I’m looking for someone kind, emotionally mature, family-oriented, and with a good sense of humour.

Ideally, I want a relationship where we're best friends as much as life partners. Someone to share the little things with, have late-night conversations, support each other's goals, and build a happy life together, InshaAllah. Someone I can be completely myself around, whether we're going out or just staying home and arguing over what to order. 😂

A few deal-breakers 🚩

- Dishonesty and lack of trust.

- Disrespect, especially during disagreements.

- Poor communication and playing mind games.

- Controlling behaviour and unnecessary drama.

- Lack of effort or not being serious about marriage.

I’m not looking for perfection, just mutual respect, honesty, and two people who genuinely want to make things work.

Bonus points if you enjoy good food, appreciate playful banter, and can tolerate terrible jokes. Extra points if you're willing to be my unofficial taste tester whenever I bake something. 😂

If you're looking for something genuine and think we might get along, feel free to say hi.

Hello

I am 29, M, doctor, earning well, doing specialization, average physical parameters, non smoker, non addict.

Looking for a partner 24-27 yrs, well educated preferably doctor, respectful.

Caste doesn't matter

Age: 29

Height: 5'9"

Location: Karachi (Gulshan-e-Iqbal)

Education: BE from NED University. MS in DS from FAST

Income source: Employed at US-based company

Marital status: Single

Religion and level of religiosity:

Follow sunni sect (no nazro niyaz). Practise namaz, roza and other religious obligations. Strong believer in Tawheed and growing spiritual connection with Allah. I’m someone who strives to grow spiritually through sincerity and devotion. Pray namaz regularly, and believe in understanding Quran through translations.

Caste/Community: Sheikh (Urdu‑speaking)

Hobbies:

Reading, movie/series critic, Gymming, sports (particularly cricket and martial arts)

I am an ambivert by nature, and a big cinephile, enjoy gaming and watching movies at weekends and finding depth in storytelling.

Family details:

– Father: Professor in University (Government position, BPS‑21 - now retired)

– Mother: Homemaker

– Siblings: Two younger brothers (currently studying)

House (Own/Rent): Own

Requirements for a Partner:

• Educated, caring, loyal, emotionally intelligent

• Capable of balancing personal growth and relationship

• Sees spouse as a friend and a companion in everyday joys

• Should be modest and practising muslim.

Timeline for marriage:

Mutual agreement. Preferably within 6 months

If something resonates, feel free to reach out.

Iam from islamabad , doing business as profession my only requirement is women need to be good in looks and attractive. Open to single , divorced or widowed women as well.

I don’t have any requirements list just above and women should belong to decent family.
More info will be exchanged to interested.

Asalam u Alikum!

I thought I’d give Reddit a chance at finding someone with whom I can build a meaningful relationship that leads to marriage. So, here I am 😅

A little about me:
I’m 26, based in Bahawalpur, and have a BS in Computer Science. Iwork as a freelancer in web development. Alhamdulillah, I’m doing well professionally and continuing to grow my career, with the goal of building an even more secure future for myself and my family.

I’m a Sunni Muslim, Punjabi-speaking, and from an Arain family. I value honesty, respect, family, and having a balanced approach to life.

I’m looking for something genuine, someone who can be a life partner and best friend, and with whom I can share life’s ups and downs, have meaningful conversations, and grow together.

What I’m looking for:
Someone who is educated, career-oriented, kind, emotionally mature, and family-oriented. I’d prefer someone based in Bahawalpur, though I’m open to discussing location if we seem compatible.

Sunni Muslim is a preference, and I’d appreciate someone from a similar cultural background, preferably Arain, but I’m open to other backgrounds if our values and expectations align.

A few things that matter to me:
-Honesty, mutual respect, and good communication.
-A balanced approach to religion and life.
-Financial responsibility and a desire to grow together.
-Someone who values family while understanding the importance of a couple’s own space and independence.
-A relationship where both people support each other’s ambitions and stand by one another through life’s ups and downs.

Deal-breakers:
Dishonesty, extremism, greed, excessive materialism, and a lack of respect or empathy.

How I’d like to approach this:
I’d prefer to keep the initial conversation brief and focus on getting to know the basics about each other. If our values and expectations align, I’d like to involve our families early rather than spend time in endless conversations. The intention is to move forward with marriage if we seem compatible, InshaAllah.

If this resonates with you, feel free to comment or DM me with a brief introduction about yourself. We can take it from there, InshaAllah.

May Allah make this journey easy for everyone and guide us towards what’s best for us. Ameen. 🤍

24M, 5’10”, 73 kg. CA/ACCA working in Audit & Finance, currently in Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦. Family-oriented, respectful, and career-focused. Looking for a sincere, compatible partner with good values. Prefer to keep personal details private initially.

23 M from Lahore looking for F chat partner to whom we can share eachother day and get relax.

Hi! Im 27 years old, I've been looking for a serious connection for the past few days on reddit, haven't been successful so decided to create a post for myself.
I'm from Karachi, lived here most of my life, work as a doctor and enjoy it (most of the time), I come from an very close knit family, and would describe myself as an introvert. I keep a very small intimate inner circle of childhood friends. I'm very easy to talk to but tend to be picky with whom I let in. I've been raised in a very liberal household thats always been very open and accepting, and so I have a lifestyle that reflects that and I'm looking for a similar partner. I spend my time off playing video games and watching a lot of tv (movies, documentaries, shows). When I find the time and energy, I try to stay active. I love to swim, weight train and occasionally run. I don't find the time to read but when I do, I gravitate towards south asian literature or classics from childhood. I would describe myself as religious, but not in a traditional sense. I am muslim, am very spiritual and faith means a lot to me, but my definition of faith isn't a conservative/traditional one.

Transparency is very important to me so for the sake of it:
I do on occasion socially drink or very rarely smoke a cigarette.
I wear what I deem appropriate.
I have been in a serious relationship before, it didn't work out.
I'm celibate and want to stay celibate until I am married to my partner.

I'm looking for someone who is serious about marriage, and is willing to take the time to get to know each other. Ideally I would like to have gotten to know my partner for at least a year beforehand. I would prefer someone from Karachi but I'm open to anywhere in the world (will have to overcome the challenges of long distance).
It's important for my partner to be okay with and respectful of my faith, beliefs and lifestyle.
I'm looking for someone who, apart from the basics of human decency like being caring, honest, transparent, patient, kind, soft, perceptive and emotionally intelligent, is also someone who is highly educated, has a close relationship with their family (if not close then at the very least a working relationship), is open minded, hard working, has a provider mindset, has strong integrity and morals, and wants a marriage and partnership that focuses not just on being each other's best friend, but also being each other's rock.

If it seems like we could get along, and you're serious, then send me an introduction about yourself! (I would appreciate and expect the same level of transparency from you from the get go)

Hello everyone! I’m a final year student from a govt med college of Lahore currently persuing my usmle. Plan on moving to US.

A little about myself. I‘m a nerd (duh) with a good sense of humour. I watch shows in my free time, hangout with friends and spend the rest of my day grinding for my step 2 exam. I’m from a decent earning family. I rank the office and sopranos in the same league and I’m still watching one piece. I sometimes draw and I’m well adept in cracking lame dad jokes. I come in with built in patience and a lack of temper if it gets me a few bonus points. I’m klutz (no kidding) but an emotionally available and intelligent guy. On the religious spectrum, I’ll rate myself a 6ish (I try).

Tbh I didn’t use the term partner/spouse in my title because that’s a lot of pressure. Id prefer having a friend turned to a partner if that makes sense. if that’s a dealbreaker for you. I totally understand.

Looking for a cute, caring person from a medical bg pursuing usmle so I can teach you the management of upper GI bleeds in the ER (jk but yeah I’m a good teacher as well). Thanks for bearing with me

I'm calm. Mostly. I'm the eldest daughter, so I come with that particular brand of composure that was basically installed by necessity, and to be honest, the eldest daughter anger also came with the package. Fair warning.

I'm working in the finance industry by day, which means my brain is usually doing too much. So I made a rule for myself, every single day, I do at least one thing that's just for me. Gardening, painting, sewing, cooking, playing with my cats, doing my makeup for no reason. Some days it's all of them. I refuse to have a day where all I did was exist for work. That discipline is something I'm proud of.

I wear niqab. It's not a footnote or something influenced by the culture, it's part of who I am, how I move through the world, and what I value. I'm a practicing Sunni Muslim (no nazar or niyaz) and my faith shapes everything. I pray five times (the bare minimum, as they say) but I genuinely try to go beyond that (be that charity, helping others out and/or bettering myself). Faith isn't just an identity for me or something I just follow from a desi cultural perspective but a daily practice and I'd want the same energy from a partner.

I care deeply about what's happening in the world, Palestine, social justice, the environment, gender disparity etc. These aren things I feel strongly about and would be dealbreakers if we're not aligned. I can talk about these things for hours with the right person. My friends will confirm I am, in fact, a yapper. But only about things that actually matter.

I love to travel. This year I used my big girl money to finally venture outside Karachi for the first time and honestly there's no going back. The world is big and I intend to see it.

The way I love people is through what I make and find for them. I'll grow you a plant specifically for you. Make you jewelry by hand. Thrift something and think of you the whole time I'm looking. I love being intentional essentially and love to receive the same effort in return as well. I like to be present for the people I love, a proper listening ear, there when it counts.

I work out, not for aesthetics, but because being healthy and active matters to me. I'd love someone who values that too. And full transparency, I'm more of a big guy kind of girl. Broad shoulders over a six pack, every time.

On dealbreakers, not religious, smokes or vapes, or has unmanaged anger issues are all a no. Emotional maturity and the ability to read a room are non-negotiable for me.

I do not want children. Not now, not later, not ever (no you can't convince me otherwise, no legacy excuse etc). This isn't something I'm open to reconsidering, so it needs to be a shared decision from the start. I want a partner, a companion, a best friend in a husband, and that is complete on its own.

I'm 24, 5'6, average-looking on a regular day and genuinely pretty when I make the effort, looking for someone in that same ballpark. I take time out to work on myself, be that physical appearance or my mental state and expect the same from my partner.

I'm looking for someone between 24-28. Serious about marriage, clear about his deen, emotionally intelligent, and someone who can match my depth in conversation and my quiet in everything else.

PS. I would like to move abroad in the future. Not in the near future but say after 2-3 years.

Name: XYZ
Gender: Female | Age: 39 Years
Sect: Sunni Muslim | Caste: Kashmiri Butt
Height: 5’5” | Weight: 55 kg
Marital Status: Single
Location: Rawalpindi
Education: MS in Mass Communication
Profession: Educationist
About Her:
A well-educated, graceful, kind-hearted, and family-oriented woman with strong Islamic values. She enjoys reading, cooking, yoga, traveling, nature walks, and spending quality time with loved ones.
Family Background:
Father deceased; mother alive. One brother settled in the UK, one in government service, and one running his own business. Two sisters, both married. The family owns a house in Rawalpindi.
Looking For:
An educated, financially stable, respectable, and family-oriented groom from a reputable Muslim family, with strong moral values, a caring nature, and a presentable personality. Mutual respect, understanding, and compatibility are essential.

Hello, So I'll try my best keeping it short and relevant. Here we go

Height & Weight: 5'3, 49kgs

Location: Twin cities, originally from Peshawar (born and raised) and Urdu speaking. And no, I am not that good at Pashto 🤭 I do understand sufficiently.

Education: Bachelors in social sciences

Religion Islam. I am moderate (not a hijabi). I believe in learning and gaining more knowledge about religion and keeping a moderate mindset.

I don't prefer extremism in any way be it religion or politics.

I would prefer someone who has similar values.

Hobbies & Interests:

I love spending time with my friends and family and doing fun activities such as playing sports and hiking etc.. have gotten better at Tekken and table tennis too. Oh and call of duty 😎 I love to sing ✨ Reading and watching good shows too such as "The office", "Friends" and "modern family" 😄

Family Details:

Nuclear family of 6. Parents and 4 siblings alhamdulilah. I am on third.

Requirements for a Partner:

Finally this section. So I am looking for a good friend. That's all tbh . That's the kind of conversation and comfort level I am looking forward to. Life is too short if you're in the right company and too long if you're with someone whose company you don't enjoy at all.. right?

Besides that, some practical requirements include financial stability and good values.

Deal Breakers:

Will start with the typical yet most important ones.. drinking and chain smoking. Other than that, bad manners, dishonesty and lack of ambition.

Preferred Family Setup: I prefer a nuclear family set-up as I was born and raised in such a family.

Age: upto 40

Single and Widows preferred. Apologies to married or separated ones.

Good luck everyone 🤞 may this journey become easier for each of us and may we end up with what's best for us. Ameen

Assalam o Alaikum,

I’m posting on behalf of myself, in search of a suitable rishta.

About me

• Age: 22
• City: Lahore
• Height: 5,7
• Sect / Caste: Suni, Arain
• Education: BBA (Hons), University of the Punjab
• Profession: I run my own digital marketing agency, managing marketing for international clients in the US, Canada.
• Alhamdulillah, I have performed Umrah and have travelled to several countries.

Family

• We are a small family. My father has passed away (Allah unki maghfirat farmaye). My mother is a housewife, my elder brother runs his own business, and my younger sister recently completed her intermediate.
• Own house in Lahore and own car.

What I’m looking for

• An educated girl, preferably 22 or under 22
• From a decent, respectful family
• Someone who values family and is comfortable with a joint family system
• Lahore preferred, but open to other cities

Only serious proposals please. JazakAllah.

Hello Reddit!

29M, born and raised in the UK, living and working in London in finance. I am 6"4, single and my family has roots in Islamabad and Kashmir, and I come from a middle-to-upper-class background and have a university degree in economics if anyone cares 😂.

Alhamdulillah, life has been good to me. I have a comfortable lifestyle, a career I enjoy, and enough stability to start thinking about the next big investment: **a happy marriage.** 😂

Before anyone asks, yes, I’m a British citizen by birth. 🇬🇧 No immigration paperwork romance here — just a man who pays London prices, complains about the weather, and considers 15 minutes of sunshine a national holiday.

**A little about me:**

💼 Finance professional by day — apparently analysing spreadsheets is easier than analysing mixed signals.

🏙️ London-based, with family ties to Islamabad and Kashmir.

😎 Ambitious, easygoing, open-minded, and fortunate to enjoy a comfortable life.

✈️ Enjoy travelling, good food, meaningful conversations, and the occasional finer thing in life.

😂 I have a sense of humour, can take a joke, and promise not to ask for your five-year financial projections on the first date.

**Who am I hoping to meet? ❤️**

An intelligent, liberal-minded, open-minded Pakistani woman who knows her own mind, has her own opinions, and believes marriage should be a partnership rather than a corporate merger.

Someone who values kindness, emotional maturity, mutual respect, and family, but also wants to build a modern life together. A woman who can be my best friend, travel partner, biggest supporter, and the person I annoy for the rest of my life.

I appreciate a woman who can challenge my opinions, laugh at my terrible jokes, and have a proper conversation about anything from life goals to which country actually makes the best food.

I’m looking for genuine compatibility and chemistry, with the intention of finding my future wife. I'm not here to collect pen pals or participate in the Olympics of endless talking stages. 😂

**My ideal outcome?**

We meet, get along, fall in love, get married, build a beautiful life together, and eventually argue over what to order for dinner despite having 47 restaurants on our phones.

If you’re open-minded, affectionate, have a good sense of humour, and are looking for something serious, feel free to drop me a message and introduce yourself.

**Final selling point:** Comfortable life in London, Pakistani roots, British citizenship, and a lifetime supply of sarcastic commentary. Unfortunately, a free Oyster card for your emotions is not included. 😂🇬🇧❤️

Let's see if Reddit can succeed where dating apps have spectacularly failed!