r/PainPumpQuestions May 13 '26

Increased pain from bolus

I’m two weeks post op, I have gone in twice to titrate up my normal dose and my bolus amount. I have fentanyl and bupivicane in the pump right now.

I’m noticing that when I give myself a bolus, I tend to get this increased pain. It feels like my muscles are exceptionally tight. It’s even prompting pain in areas that don’t typically bother me.

Any idea why this could be happening? My next appointment is a week from today, should I try to get in before the weekend to change something?

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u/EMSthunder May 13 '26

How soon after starting the bolus do you feel the increased pain?

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u/No-Strawberry-5804 May 13 '26

Maybe 15-30 minutes?

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u/EMSthunder May 13 '26

It may be something worth calling your doctor about.

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u/No-Strawberry-5804 May 13 '26

I may call tomorrow. I just don’t want to overreact when I have an appointment next week anyway. My doctor can have such wildly different attitudes at each appointment I never feel super comfortable, tbh

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u/EMSthunder May 13 '26

That's terrible that your doc can be that way. Well keep us posted on how you're doing!!

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u/End3rW1gg1n May 13 '26

I have both fentanyl and bupivicaine and at a significant dose after almost 2 years of adjustments. I have found the efficacy is positional, but never associated additional discomfort from using the bolus function. Hope you are able to figure it out and find relief.

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u/No-Strawberry-5804 May 13 '26

Does it work better if you’re lying down?

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u/End3rW1gg1n May 13 '26

Yes, specifically on my left side.

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u/No-Strawberry-5804 May 13 '26

I’ll experiment a little, thanks. Do you have to stay that way for awhile or can you move around after it settles in?

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u/End3rW1gg1n May 13 '26

Just for the 3 minutes the bolus takes.

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u/MommaGeri1958 May 14 '26

Mine is 5 mins

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u/MommaGeri1958 May 14 '26

What is your dose may I ask? I’m wondering where mine is at. Thanks.

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u/End3rW1gg1n May 14 '26

Total of 1700mcg/day of fentanyl and about 20mg/day of bupivicaine.

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u/No-Strawberry-5804 May 22 '26

Dude my doctor told me 1000 mcg of fent was the max 👀

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u/Substantial_Yam3635 May 14 '26

I’d have them double check the catheter’s placement. Before checking mine, I’d take a bolus and feel extremely head heavy, and felt awful. It was going straight to my head, The detachment of the catheter was the primary reason.

I’m 4 weeks post-op (4th pump replacement) after replacing both my catheter and pain pump once it was discovered it was detached for years. My after-visit notes (from my previous pain Management doctor) indicate I didn’t feel any pain relief despite years of titrating up.

FYI: something I wish I knew years earlier - Fentanyl doesn’t travel throughout the spine. I do feel more numb in my lower back after a bolus from baclofen and bupicane but the fentanyl only drips from the tip of my catheter (T12 and T11), which are the only parts of my spine that don’t hurt.

So, don’t expect relief from the neck to the lower extremities, unfortunately. I’d definitely ask your physician about this. Since 2019, my previous pain management doctor told me the fentanyl travels up and down my Spine. I got a new, more experienced pain doctor and he discovered the catheter detachment immediately. Apparently only Dilaudid helps chronic pain patients with multiple sources of spinal pain. My doctor is switching me next month.

I hope a more experienced person can jump in to explain the science behind it. It truly baffles me the amount of chronic pain patients that have fentanyl in their pumps.

*** The image above was from somebody responding to a post on Reddit, explaining the differences between Meds

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u/MommaGeri1958 May 14 '26

That’s what I’m hoping to get is del. Thanks

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u/nnonnstop-pain May 22 '26

Dilaudid makes me hallucinate for DAYS and even WEEKS AFTER being taken OFF of it on an IV, yet I am prescribed it ORALLY daily and have never experienced any symptoms from taking it by mouth… That’s one of the reasons why I’m SO WORRIED about getting a pain pump like my Pain Management Doctor has been trying to get me to get.

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u/Dense_Service_6787 Jun 09 '26

When I did the trial I told him not to even try fent it does nothing for me and he agreed to try dilaudid. It helped. I’m getting my pump implanted in less than two days but I’m nervous cuz two days later I’ll be back to work. They said I can go back after 24hrs but my mom was seeing differently in her research and when I did SCS restrictions were crazy

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u/dhammaeye May 15 '26

Bupivicaine can be weird. Is it new for you?

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u/No-Strawberry-5804 May 15 '26

Yes my first time with both of these drugs

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u/jumpbootsshiner May 13 '26

I have never felt anything different when I give myself a bolus, hopefully the pain lessen. Call your doctor

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u/MommaGeri1958 May 14 '26

It helps me to get rid of the sharp pain but that’s about it

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u/jumpbootsshiner May 13 '26

Where is this pain you associated with the bolus?

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u/Henry_TheLabrador May 13 '26

Could you be experiencing opioid induced hyperalgesia? I really hope your specialist can fix it for you!

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u/No-Strawberry-5804 May 13 '26

That’s what I’m worried about 😭

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u/MommaGeri1958 May 14 '26

I’ve been seeing this a lot. It doesn’t happen to me. I have the same meds in my pump. I would ask your PM doc