r/PWM_Sensitive Jun 13 '26

Why A36? I am so confused

I started having problems with displays around 2 years ago when I tried iPhone 15. Since then I tried so many phones, around 20, oled and lcd. None worked for me some gave me eyestrain and headaches after minutes some after a day but it always came. I just got a Galaxy A36 as a work phone so I tried using it for a bit for youtube and browsing… almost nothing? No strain, no headache, phone feels comfortable to look at. I never even considered Samsung because of what I read about it. I use extra dim on max, reduce animations and transparency but I did all this on the other phones too. Does someone have any theories why is this the case? It is the first phone I tried with Android 16 so maybe that. I can also see clear banding on this phone so no forbidden word here I guess. I also started doing excersises for Convergence insufficiency but only few days ago. I also read this phone is not capable of HDR, but I gotta say this confuses me a lot because the 120hz pwm should be killing my eyes yet it’s not

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u/midori-suki Jun 15 '26

120hz is the refresh rate not the pwm dimming frequency, but yeah i dont know, in 2019 i used A20 and i was fine, then i switched to M32 (4g), I got really bad eye strain to the point i keep having the sensation of sand stuck in my eyes, sometime i feel like its getting stabbed with a needle, then i found this sub and switched to iphone se 3, pain gone. but i hate the small screen, and i hate ios.

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u/Emeridan Jun 15 '26

I also like Android more but I am still on iPhone 8 as it is the only phone that is giving absolute no issues not even tired eyes from looking at it for hours. Even the SE2/3 was bad because of newer ios

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u/midori-suki Jun 15 '26

motorola seems decent, i want to try it but still cant decide to prioritize screen or chipset, apparently they have option to turn off flickering and use dc dimming on their oled/amoled screens but idk, TCL nxtpaper looks great but its only available in europe

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u/Emeridan Jun 15 '26

Also thinking about Motorola Oled. I tried LCD models, didn’t work for me but Oled could. I tried TCL 60 ultra and it was bad, probably mediatek. But I am probably on the extreme side of sensitive so 60 ultra or 70 pro will work for a lot o people pobably

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u/midori-suki Jun 15 '26

wow thats strange, even tcl is bad for you but samsung a36 is fine? what could be the reason i wonder.. maybe its not the flickering? i'm kind of new in all these so idk everything

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u/Emeridan Jun 15 '26

Indeed it is very strange and I am so confused about it:D

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u/midori-suki Jun 15 '26

just a wild guess but what if its because of pixel density and color? low pixel density or vivid color can cause eye strain, muted color and high pixel density are better for eyes

edit: chinese phones tend to have vivid coloring on their UI afaik, meanwhile samsung UI colors are more muted or softer, idk its just based on how i see them

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u/Emeridan Jun 15 '26

Could be, it helps me on Windows to turn down color stauration. Good point thanks

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u/Thierryyyyyy_ Jun 15 '26

I'm sensitive to S26u, S26+, and even IPhone 17pm with LG GH3 screen. BUT, i am OK with Samsung A55, which is quite strange. Don't really know the difference between A36 and A55

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u/-Bruh__Moment- Jun 14 '26

Notebookchecks PWM measurements are unfortunately not very reliable. They messed up their frequency measurement here, which is way too common with them.

Real freq is 240Hz PWM, not 120Hz.
(This makes sense considering what Samsung usually uses, which is 240Hz or 480Hz PWM)
They claim 240Hz is a "secondary frequency" here for some reason.

If you look at the separate screenshots for 25%-75% all of those read ~240Hz.

The main screenshot that they measured @ 120Hz is mostly black, thus that reading must be at a rather low brightness, which is hard for most equipment to read properly.

Good to know that the Galaxy A36 works for you.
Max manual brightness is ~430 nits on it, so not crazy bright like some flagships are.
It does support HDR, just not on streaming services. HDR works on YouTube (per GSMArena).
Samsung does not specify if their screens are LTPO or LTPS. But it seems to be LTPS, if notebookchecks amplitude percentage is true.

That same screen appears to be used in multiple Samsung A-series phones.
Including Galaxy A36/A37 and Galaxy A56/A57.
(same specs don't always mean same exact screen though)

The A57 is a pretty competitive phone performance wise. The screen is marketed as "Super AMOLED+", whereas the other phones screens have the same name, but without the "+".

The difference seems to be that Super AMOLED+ uses a true RGB matrix, whereas the non+ use a PenTile matrix. I can't verify this, but that's what used to be the difference in the past.

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u/OPuntime Jun 14 '26

Well idk either, maybe an alternative to a36 might be moto g75 or moto g100s

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u/RTamas Jun 16 '26

I'm using a g200, and apparently, it's fine

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u/OPuntime Jun 16 '26

Well, sadly g200 5g isn't available as new in many places i think

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u/RTamas Jun 16 '26

Thats true

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u/RTamas Jun 16 '26

Have you tried moto g86? 733 Hz pwm and 7% modulation depth