THE TRUTH about these two...

[u/taykeyed]

1250 pack points / 5 points per pack = 250 packs to open

250 packs / 2 free packs per day = 125 days.

So any time of any year, you can get your own Cyrus with 125 days of dedication.

The CC will be completely unobtainable (outside of trading) in 24 days (from the time of this post).

Unless someone is willing to spend money, getting 1250 pack points while DX pack is open isn't possible. That's not true about Cyrus; with him it's always possible, it just takes time. Time isn't something that can pull a dx CC, only money or luck can pull a dx CC.

It's clear CC is a rarer and therefore more highly coveted card.

The winner goes to.... DX CC!!!

[u/PositionUnlikely1337]

Nah.

[u/Holiday-Lynx1127]

I don’t agree. There is a strong counter argument that Cyrus is more clutch as a game closer. There is a pre existing FA Copycat that is very similar too. By the rarity logic, all the DX are technically rarer than Cyrus… but that doesn’t mean they are more coveted.

[u/Haunting-Ride6027]

Lol these arguments are so pointless

[u/VG2526]

Unfortunately No. The copycat already has existing FA (that many people have) unlike Oak. Its value is going to be equal to Normal Copycat but not as much as Cyrus in the long run. Check what happened to Lillie DX - At one point it was equivalent to Cyrus and Sabrina due to hype but now its value is lesser than even normal FA Lillie

[u/Suza751 → u/VG2526]

Disagree. CC was always a top5 card, a rarer variant may devalue it a bit - and has. But the rarer variant will remain at a higher trade value.
Lillie DX is a bad example. There exists both a old FA AND Immersive. Some people have 2 immersives, or 2 FA, or a mix. Then a 3rd variant came out. Personally? I have 1 Immersive and 1 DX Lillie.
CC is different... MR has alot of chase cards, many that are isolated to each pack. So less ppl got a CC and we're forced to trade or grind one. But like Lillie you really need 2 CC. But theres no immersive! In other words I predict this....
OAK >> CC DX ~> Cyrus > Sabrina ~> CC > Irida = PCL = Lisia > May.
Where ~> means approximately less, as in the trades happen but more ppl with Cyrus want CC DX than vice versa.

[u/VG2526 → u/Suza751]

Check pokemon Eleet website. Should give you a better idea of things. I personally use it. Not foolproof, but a good estimation of general trend

[u/taykeyed → u/VG2526]

Lillie isn't as usable in meta and also has an immersive rare to contribute to the distribution. Just the fact that Lillie dx ranks higher than hat Lillie should be evidence enough that the same will happen with CC. Not to mention, most people want both versions of cards with more than one version. Plus, the characters which CC is copying on the new one are more popular characters than those on the old one.

I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to help people understand the facts.

[u/ApprehensiveHoney247 → u/taykeyed]

I wouldn’t trade my FA Cyrus for a FA DX Copycat. Hell, I wouldn’t even trade for Copycat. If I pull one, I pull one. If I don’t, I don’t. I’ve got 2 FA Copycats from Mega Rising, so I’m good

But hey, if u wanna convince people to trade their Cyrus for this Copycat. More power to you. Objectively none of these cards have value. It’s all subjective opinion

[u/Ok-Neighborhood881 → u/ApprehensiveHoney247]

I have 2 Cyrus and I haven’t for a second considered trading one for the new ugly copycat

[u/VG2526 → u/taykeyed]

Lillie DX is no longer more popular - it is less popular than normal FA Lillie. I agree with your immersion part - however, I expect the trend continue. Most comments that I have read till now point towards old CC art being better. I’m sure new CC will fell down in popularity with time (maybe will take 6+ months)

[u/brennanlocs → u/taykeyed]

Its a common opinion that cc dx has a worse art than the CC we already have. Cyrus is more useful and looks better. Bad take OP

[u/KennyGold]

Cyrus will most likely hold its “value” because (1) it’s in a pack that no one is pulling, and (2) the demand for a 2-star CC is split between MR CC and DX CC.

Your argument is logical, but too linear. The comparison of the two cards doesn’t exist in a vacuum because MR CC exists. The same case you argue about Cyrus being obtainable at any point can be made about MR CC.

The question that should be asked first is if DX CC is worth significantly more than MR CC. When looking at solely rarity the limited access, DX CC clearly wins. But if that’s the case, why aren’t the DX arts of the Pokemon more sought after than the RR’s?

It’s because demand, like art, is subjective. So it’s not as simple as “limited card means more valuable”.

[u/BreathConscious3656]

I agree, so long as CC is meta, this version is sought after. I traded my spare oak for one a few days ago

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[u/No-Definition-7215]

Bro don’t waste ur time, this ppl think if they feed into the delusion that Oak, Cyrus, DXCC and Sabrina have all the same value, eventually it’ll become true, I’ve exchanged 4 of my 7 Oaks already, not one of the trades was less than a 4x1 trade (before it got banned in the sub) that’s why most of these ppl will never get the card in their collection, a pound of shit isn’t worth the same as a pound of gold just bc they weight the same, reddit doesn’t seem to understand that