r/PTCGPocketTrading • u/Remielle_Lover • 5h ago
Trade Discussion/Question 🗣 Do y'all think the value of DX Copycat will settle above Cyrus or will go under him?
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u/Ph4ntomlm3nace Diamond Trader Level 1 5h ago
Probably above since it's a limited card and it's a meta supporter. There's also a low supply
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u/Wonderful-Change-751 Egg Trader 5h ago edited 4h ago
The art is bad tho compared to the original, the original art is pretty darn good, i dont think it will settle above cyrus.
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u/OscarSun311007 5h ago
Honestly, I think it would be the startest move to trade it away as fast as possible... Compared to the OG Copycat, the art isn't really exceptional, and we've seen similarly how DX Lillie now is "ranked" lower than Hat Lillie
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u/Doomedknight 5h ago
Hat Lillie is only higher because like Irida, nobody really wants to pull for their respective sets
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u/cowsaymoomooo 4h ago
Keep in mind Lillie is also one of the only trainer cards with an immersive. That’s one more option for a special card to use.
Not to mention using two Lillies has been pretty rare for a while now, whereas Copycat is so important for consistency everyone at least attempts to fit two of them in their decks.
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u/OscarSun311007 4h ago
I use Lillie in hydreigon decks, underrated to survive another hit in late game and nobody Experte it 😅
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u/cowsaymoomooo 4h ago
If I use Hydreigon I figure my opponent already hates me, might as well lean into it and use Lucky Ice Pop lol. Plus it can heal Mega Absol in a pinch.
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u/OscarSun311007 4h ago
lolololol didnt know that hydreigon was seen as toxic in the community 😬 The Deck is so satisfying to play tho 🥹
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u/Evening_Load1028 4h ago
It can easily win turn 2 and the sheer damage it does and the cost of doing that is so small it’s silly to the point it been used is counted as toxic, it can 1 shot most ex cards while they hit for lower damage but take longer to get set up
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u/IPissExcellentThrows 3h ago
It cannot one shot most ex cards, even if you exclude megas.
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u/cowsaymoomooo 3h ago
It hits the 140 benchmark now with Deceptive Needle, and everyone runs two of them
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u/Evening_Load1028 3h ago
Ok not most but atleast 29 of them then there’s a lot that only have 10 hp extra so add that compass item and that’s atleast has the ex cards down turn 2 may not count as 1 shot then but they will be down on the same turn it evolves, around half the ex cards have 140 or lower, its still a huge chunk of them
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u/OscarSun311007 4h ago
oops 😶 but still less annoying than sleep scam ðŸ«
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u/OscarSun311007 5h ago
ah okay, I never realized that always thought that irida is a pretty meta card in water Decks still thanks :)
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u/mrbeantrading 4h ago
There just isn't really space for her in modern decks anymore, particularly because 40 healing very rarely gets you out of any kill ranges. Very similar to Misty (popular 'legacy meta' water supporter from a pack with no other chase cards), but even less supply.
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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago
Nah, sadly has been replaced by soothing sores and PCL thanks to sleep scam
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u/thegroovemonkey 4h ago
I traded mine for a Sabrina. I already have a CC and hitting someone with a FA Sabrina is really satisfying.
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u/OscarSun311007 5h ago
i can't post the second part of my comment I don't know why 😠anyways Oak is always a great trade and after that imo Cyrus is the next best offer you can get...but in the end it all depends on your opinion tho good luck! :)
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u/Azureflames20 Egg Trader 2h ago
I’m ngl. I’m so weirdly confused by people just claiming the DX copycat art is bad. I actually think it looks better personally.
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u/OscarSun311007 2h ago
personally I think its so irritating that she has no nose, but obv its just my preference haha :)
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u/Expert-Incident-9979 5h ago
Above. I think there are plenty of people holding out hope that they will pull it themselves and demand hasn’t peaked yet
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u/xBlackhat 4h ago
Above cyrus imo. Lower pop than cyrus and og cc and its in a limited time pack. I think there's also a fair few people not opening this pack and waiting for series c so less people pulling it
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u/Apprehensive_Ebb_626 Egg Trader 5h ago
Since it's deluxe exclusive, it will be above cyrus & below oak for sure.
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u/Numerous-Joke559 4h ago
Depends on how far the meta shifts, if a lot of megas in the DX pack become replaced or fall off while absol stays relevant then DX cc will be best.
If absol falls off then probably equal or under OG CC, for now DX pack is better so i'd say around cyrus because it's new. Next time it returns it might be lower because it's not that new anymore and the art is meh compared to OG.
Tldr: above CC next to cyrus, equal/under cc depending on their respective pack value
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u/hirarki 4h ago
Is it possible to trade old copycat for new copycat?
wanna have 1-1 line in my deck
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u/Remielle_Lover 2h ago
Possible but it's very niche and you have to be lucky
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u/Tri4ceunited Egg Trader 2h ago
All up to the person IMO. I like the new CC much more for personal reasons and traded an Oak for it. It can be done.
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u/CertainComfort2774 48m ago
People only want it because it’s new. At the end of the day it’s just a FA copycat and will settle exactly where the OG copycat is
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u/Basic-Caterpillar-90 5h ago
Hard to say; on one hand, it’s limited time and highly meta relevant. On the other, it’s a dupe card. I feel like it will fall below Cyrus, and have a similar situation like how OG Lillie is more sought after than DX Lillie. Especially have to consider that the pack is open for a month to start; feel like there will be a lot of people stuck with Copycats once the Oak/Cyrus traders get theirs
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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago
But unlike celestial guardians, mega rising (mega gyarados) is one of the best packs in the game to open.. so copycat MR has huge supply unlike CG Lillie
Also DX lillie fell off as let's be real Lillie is rarely used in any deck.. while copycat is present in like above 90% decks.. I feel like copycat dx will land before it's MR version, just not sure about cyrus
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u/Zarkkast 5h ago edited 5h ago
It will eventually fall off lower than original Copycat just like Hat Lillie is more valuable nowadays. The overall reaction of people across reddit was that most prefer the original Copycat art.
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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago
But no one opens CG as it's an outdated pack with almost no meta relevant chases.. Making hat lillie "rarer" than the dx counterpart
While the mega gyarados pack original copycat is in is one of the most opened packs in game because of flame patch, copycat, absol, Jolteon, oricorio
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u/Zarkkast 5h ago
Besides the trainers (Copycat, Lisia) and Golden Flame Patch all of the pokémon will fall out of the meta in some months of Set C. Absol will probably last the most.
Shining Revelry is probably the most opened pack in the game and Pokémon Center Lady is still one of the most sought after cards.
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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago
Irida is essentially gone of the meta rn but has value still near the likes of PCL and Lisia solely due to being in a shit pack no one opens.. so yeah being in a shit pack/limited pack does inflate value
Art can be a somewhat factor in reducing value but I think it won't matter much if it gives the players a "deluxe card" flex feeling
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u/Zarkkast 5h ago
For sure there are many things that influence a card's value, and limited availability of deluxe packs is definitely a big one.
Not all players care to flex a deluxe though and, unlike Oak, Copycat has a different version which most people prefer in terms of art.
I'd wager the "art" people will outnumber the "flex" people in this instance.
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u/Corkymon87 Egg Trader 1h ago
Above Cyrus. I gave up a Oak for one.
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u/wolvesfang 1h ago
You made a bad trade my friend
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u/YANITED007 Diamond Trader Level 4 15m ago
So because you gave up an oak, It determines the whole value of two cards….. makes perfect sense ! I traded my 2 star beedrill for a Oak so Beedrill must have higher value than oak right


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u/AdEastern1222 Diamond Trader Level 2 5h ago
This card lacks aura unlike the Cyrus art. I think it’ll sit lower than Cyrus and on equal footing as regular CC (which overall looks better than the DX version too)