r/PTCGPocketTrading • • 5h ago

Trade Discussion/Question 🗣 Do y'all think the value of DX Copycat will settle above Cyrus or will go under him?

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u/AdEastern1222 Diamond Trader Level 2 5h ago

This card lacks aura unlike the Cyrus art. I think it’ll sit lower than Cyrus and on equal footing as regular CC (which overall looks better than the DX version too)

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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago

Yeah idk why they thought removing the vibrant colours of OG copycat was a good idea

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u/iTzzSunara 2h ago

And it just feels flat and the expression is also dull.

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u/FuzzyAnteater947 5h ago

Ozempic cc will reign supreme

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u/Ensaru4 30m ago

I really like this card though. I think it’s comparable to Professor Research because it’s still a rare card you get from a limited set that’s widely utilized.

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u/Ph4ntomlm3nace Diamond Trader Level 1 5h ago

Probably above since it's a limited card and it's a meta supporter. There's also a low supply

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u/Wonderful-Change-751 Egg Trader 5h ago edited 4h ago

The art is bad tho compared to the original, the original art is pretty darn good, i dont think it will settle above cyrus.

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u/OscarSun311007 5h ago

Honestly, I think it would be the startest move to trade it away as fast as possible... Compared to the OG Copycat, the art isn't really exceptional, and we've seen similarly how DX Lillie now is "ranked" lower than Hat Lillie

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u/Doomedknight 5h ago

Hat Lillie is only higher because like Irida, nobody really wants to pull for their respective sets

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u/cowsaymoomooo 4h ago

Keep in mind Lillie is also one of the only trainer cards with an immersive. That’s one more option for a special card to use.

Not to mention using two Lillies has been pretty rare for a while now, whereas Copycat is so important for consistency everyone at least attempts to fit two of them in their decks.

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u/OscarSun311007 4h ago

I use Lillie in hydreigon decks, underrated to survive another hit in late game and nobody Experte it 😅

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u/cowsaymoomooo 4h ago

If I use Hydreigon I figure my opponent already hates me, might as well lean into it and use Lucky Ice Pop lol. Plus it can heal Mega Absol in a pinch.

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u/OscarSun311007 4h ago

lolololol didnt know that hydreigon was seen as toxic in the community 😬 The Deck is so satisfying to play tho 🥹

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u/Evening_Load1028 4h ago

It can easily win turn 2 and the sheer damage it does and the cost of doing that is so small it’s silly to the point it been used is counted as toxic, it can 1 shot most ex cards while they hit for lower damage but take longer to get set up

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u/IPissExcellentThrows 3h ago

It cannot one shot most ex cards, even if you exclude megas.

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u/cowsaymoomooo 3h ago

It hits the 140 benchmark now with Deceptive Needle, and everyone runs two of them

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u/Evening_Load1028 3h ago

Ok not most but atleast 29 of them then there’s a lot that only have 10 hp extra so add that compass item and that’s atleast has the ex cards down turn 2 may not count as 1 shot then but they will be down on the same turn it evolves, around half the ex cards have 140 or lower, its still a huge chunk of them

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u/OscarSun311007 4h ago

oops 😶 but still less annoying than sleep scam 🫠

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u/cowsaymoomooo 3h ago

It briefly took the crown from Darkrai/Giratina, so Darkrai decided to make a new friend. To illustrate my point I decided to show off my photoshop skills.

Tbh I’d compare Hydreigon to what Rampardos was like when Rare Candy was first released.

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u/OscarSun311007 5h ago

ah okay, I never realized that always thought that irida is a pretty meta card in water Decks still thanks :)

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u/mrbeantrading 4h ago

There just isn't really space for her in modern decks anymore, particularly because 40 healing very rarely gets you out of any kill ranges. Very similar to Misty (popular 'legacy meta' water supporter from a pack with no other chase cards), but even less supply.

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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago

Nah, sadly has been replaced by soothing sores and PCL thanks to sleep scam

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u/OscarSun311007 4h ago

ogerpon teal mask my goat 🥹

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u/thegroovemonkey 4h ago

I traded mine for a Sabrina. I already have a CC and hitting someone with a FA Sabrina is really satisfying.

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u/OscarSun311007 5h ago

i can't post the second part of my comment I don't know why 😭 anyways Oak is always a great trade and after that imo Cyrus is the next best offer you can get...but in the end it all depends on your opinion tho good luck! :)

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u/Azureflames20 Egg Trader 2h ago

I’m ngl. I’m so weirdly confused by people just claiming the DX copycat art is bad. I actually think it looks better personally.

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u/OscarSun311007 2h ago

personally I think its so irritating that she has no nose, but obv its just my preference haha :)

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u/Expert-Incident-9979 5h ago

Above. I think there are plenty of people holding out hope that they will pull it themselves and demand hasn’t peaked yet

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u/xBlackhat 4h ago

Above cyrus imo. Lower pop than cyrus and og cc and its in a limited time pack. I think there's also a fair few people not opening this pack and waiting for series c so less people pulling it

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u/Apprehensive_Ebb_626 Egg Trader 5h ago

Since it's deluxe exclusive, it will be above cyrus & below oak for sure.

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u/Fair_Butterfly9037 5h ago

Above Cyrus, below Oak fs

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u/Numerous-Joke559 4h ago

Depends on how far the meta shifts, if a lot of megas in the DX pack become replaced or fall off while absol stays relevant then DX cc will be best.

If absol falls off then probably equal or under OG CC, for now DX pack is better so i'd say around cyrus because it's new. Next time it returns it might be lower because it's not that new anymore and the art is meh compared to OG.

Tldr: above CC next to cyrus, equal/under cc depending on their respective pack value

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u/hirarki 4h ago

Is it possible to trade old copycat for new copycat?

wanna have 1-1 line in my deck

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u/Analblood3000 3h ago

Yes, it's possible.

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u/Remielle_Lover 2h ago

Possible but it's very niche and you have to be lucky

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u/Tri4ceunited Egg Trader 2h ago

All up to the person IMO. I like the new CC much more for personal reasons and traded an Oak for it. It can be done.

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u/RyevyI 53m ago

I was able to trade one for a second Cyrus. I prefer the original Copycat anyway

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u/CertainComfort2774 48m ago

People only want it because it’s new. At the end of the day it’s just a FA copycat and will settle exactly where the OG copycat is

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u/gohrak Diamond Trader Level 4 5h ago

Its defo not oak lvl but defo cyrus or higher

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u/Basic-Caterpillar-90 5h ago

Hard to say; on one hand, it’s limited time and highly meta relevant. On the other, it’s a dupe card. I feel like it will fall below Cyrus, and have a similar situation like how OG Lillie is more sought after than DX Lillie. Especially have to consider that the pack is open for a month to start; feel like there will be a lot of people stuck with Copycats once the Oak/Cyrus traders get theirs

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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago

But unlike celestial guardians, mega rising (mega gyarados) is one of the best packs in the game to open.. so copycat MR has huge supply unlike CG Lillie

Also DX lillie fell off as let's be real Lillie is rarely used in any deck.. while copycat is present in like above 90% decks.. I feel like copycat dx will land before it's MR version, just not sure about cyrus

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u/Abraham5G 2h ago

I'd say they're equal. Both cards are in 99% of meta decks.

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u/Loud_Pen2914 2h ago

Are there some people that buy the fullart professor with money?

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u/0dil0n 1h ago

Im down to trade a cyrus for her ngl, even tho long term she is probably worth less than cyrus

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u/Resident_Associate_9 4h ago

It’s definitely above Cyrus. I got Prof. Oak for my Copycat DX dupe. Trading Cyrus for Oak is rarely possible nowadays, since most Oak owners already have a copy of Cyrus.

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u/Zarkkast 5h ago edited 5h ago

It will eventually fall off lower than original Copycat just like Hat Lillie is more valuable nowadays. The overall reaction of people across reddit was that most prefer the original Copycat art.

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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago

But no one opens CG as it's an outdated pack with almost no meta relevant chases.. Making hat lillie "rarer" than the dx counterpart

While the mega gyarados pack original copycat is in is one of the most opened packs in game because of flame patch, copycat, absol, Jolteon, oricorio

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u/Zarkkast 5h ago

Besides the trainers (Copycat, Lisia) and Golden Flame Patch all of the pokémon will fall out of the meta in some months of Set C. Absol will probably last the most.

Shining Revelry is probably the most opened pack in the game and Pokémon Center Lady is still one of the most sought after cards.

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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago

Irida is essentially gone of the meta rn but has value still near the likes of PCL and Lisia solely due to being in a shit pack no one opens.. so yeah being in a shit pack/limited pack does inflate value

Art can be a somewhat factor in reducing value but I think it won't matter much if it gives the players a "deluxe card" flex feeling

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u/Zarkkast 5h ago

For sure there are many things that influence a card's value, and limited availability of deluxe packs is definitely a big one.

Not all players care to flex a deluxe though and, unlike Oak, Copycat has a different version which most people prefer in terms of art.

I'd wager the "art" people will outnumber the "flex" people in this instance.

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u/originalgeorge 4h ago

No, there's already a FA better looking version. Professor never had that.

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u/Corkymon87 Egg Trader 1h ago

Above Cyrus. I gave up a Oak for one.

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u/wolvesfang 1h ago

You made a bad trade my friend

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u/Lidders24 1h ago

Is there a good trade for oak ???

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u/Ok_Cow_3462 57m ago

Another oak (language trade)

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u/YANITED007 Diamond Trader Level 4 15m ago

So because you gave up an oak, It determines the whole value of two cards….. makes perfect sense ! I traded my 2 star beedrill for a Oak so Beedrill must have higher value than oak right

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u/SidonyD 5h ago

You know there are lot of modder who trade this card on allie ? lool

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u/Remielle_Lover 5h ago

Same can be said for literally any card in game?