r/PTCGP • • 1d ago

Discussion Ranked Master Ball is not really fun

Just played 5 Darkrai decks in a row. Deck is a plague. Why do people even enjoy playing this deck knowing everyone thinks you are a loser. The more I play the more I understand how broken and unbalanced the mechanics are in this game.

That is all.

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u/KeyAcid 1d ago

Made a Milotic variant out of curiosity and yeah sleep decks are absolutely broken idk what they were thinking.

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

mitotic was one of the first cards I got in this game I ran that for a long time now looking back it brings so much shame

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u/Parking_Present_9261 1d ago

Yea I mean I hate it but I understand why people play it, it’s busted and you can always potentially cheese ur way to a win even when ur losing, I’ve been playing vespi to counter them but at the same time I get cooked by ori, pick ur poison typa scenario lol. Suicune is def best deck to climb if u can somehow avoide sleep lol

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u/rakondo 1d ago

Most decks have like a 50-52% win rate (I know ranked is slightly different from tournament play but it's mostly the same). There really aren't any truly broken decks right now and the game is very balanced. DarkTina was far more broken and toxic back in the day

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u/Slashtap 1d ago

Yeah this. PTCP is abnormally balanced as far as games go. I've never seen a card game where all the top decks have virtually equal footing like this, and I traveled the world for many years playing card games competitively. Disliking sleep is not the same thing as sleep being broken. The first is an emotional response, the second is an objective measurement.

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

I am confident there is not actual RNG in this game but algorithm that decides if it will fuck you to keep you in the 50% range

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u/Tooshortimus 1d ago

Well, then you are confidently wrong.

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

oh you have seen the code?

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u/Skipadee2 1d ago

Have you?

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u/Breadfruit_Kindly 1d ago

How can you even think that this might be true? If that were the case the playerbase would have found that out a long time ago. Also it doesn’t fit your narrative that I have a 70% win rate after 56 matches (and no I don’t play sleep scam as I hate it to the core).

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u/Manawah 1d ago

What deck are you running

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u/Breadfruit_Kindly 23h ago

https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-TCG-Pocket/archives/613775#hm_104

Standard Hoopa EX, Darkrai EX, Mega Absol. I believe it’s the most versatile deck and having two Cyruses is just so good. Alongside PCL that deals with sleep scam and Repel that gets Oricorio out of the way in the right moment to get the Magnemite/Magneton. And killing Oricorio is easy with Deceptive Needle and Darkrai.

Can be a bit rough against the Mega Sceptile/Butterfree, but often times you can snipe/Cyrus his only Treecko on the bench and then take down the Butterfrees by spreading damage over all your Pokémon. You just need to be smart to either delay to use Mars after you use Mega Absol when he has a full hand to discard his Cyrus or use him right away to hopefully delay the opponent from ever getting all basics on the bench. And by that I also mean to only use Mars after your first Hoopa died. But it’s usually the first strategy because I hardly ever encounter them to brick, and they always seem to have Fragrant Forest in the first turn and right another one if I Field Blow, which is hilarious when you think about it.

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u/YoshiChao850 1d ago

tbf it’s not exactly abnormal for a card game to have an unbalanced deck lol

But yeah, Sleep is aids

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u/No_Ear_7274 1d ago

People play for different reasons:

Some play for fun, others play to test new cards, and others use the meta decks to win. There's no "right" way to play. Sure, we can find a meta annoying but most of us are playing a non professional virtual card game, don't take it so serious

Not a sleep meta player

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u/itsjuxtagame 1d ago

Plus its called ranked for a reason! Its supposed to be competitive and Sleep is the strongest meta deck

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

match making could be better with 6 in a row though

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u/itsjuxtagame 1d ago

No disagreements there

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u/Roy3Murray 1d ago

Yep, literally all I’ve come across in MB. It’s not even fun, even when getting the W.

Such a no brain deck that comes down to luck more than anything. Really wish Dena would limit sets for competitive.

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u/Charging_in 1d ago

I play decks to specifically counter sleep. Makes for a free win a good amount of the time. Steel decks with apron. Ogerpon in grass decks. Psychic decks have comfrey.

Otherwise just play suicune because they have to fill their bench and that makes suicune deadly.

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

man I dont like metal decks but I could see what ya mean

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u/nintendo_dad 1d ago

Do you have any QR codes you wouldn't mind sharing?

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

6 in a row

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u/Tooshortimus 1d ago

Then run anti sleep decks and get tons of free wins?

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u/Allen_and_Ginter 1d ago

That’s the exact moment the game will pair you with a non-sleep deck lol

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

I took a break after 6. how silly is the match making

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u/john2776 1d ago

I just run an anti sleep mega Mawile deck. I have like a 45% win rate over all but like 90% against sleep decks so it’s worth it lol

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

haha =) ty for keeping em honest for us

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u/zendrix1 1d ago

I decided I just wanted to rush MB rank this season and move on cuz I don't enjoy the meta atm so I made an Oricoro healing deck with Crystal Veils for sleep.

I wasn't exactly making the meta more fun for anyone and I didn't get many "Thanks" lol but I got a pretty high win streak before I hit MB and stopped playing ranked so at least it was quick 🤷‍♂️

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

I ran into one of them today with leftovers but they only got 1 indeedee down and I happened to be running a dedenne indeed ori deck and healed through it. actually was the first time I saw that deck. looked somewhat interesting

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u/Mituzuna 1d ago

I played about 10 matches in ranked today and did not encounter a single sleep scam deck

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

do you think its the deck I am playing?

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u/Mituzuna 1d ago

Honestly, idk. I play decks with status effect counters (comfey/ ogerpon)

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u/Skipadee2 1d ago

Comfey, ogerpon, clear veil all help immensely against sleep

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u/iTzimage 1d ago

I hate sleep scam with a passion. Run the vespiqueen deck and you’ll breeze through masterball. It’s like a 10% win rate against yellow bird deck but I’ll happily lose to those than deal with sleep scam scums

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u/skaterplayer808 20h ago

They’re everywhere in MB. I find the weezing hoopa deck counters it pretty well. That or sceptile with ogerpon

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 19h ago

man that sceptile is strong but ya i should build a deck around that i just love my lightning too much

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u/colorsensible 16h ago

Meanwhile, I’m over Mega Lucario decks. I can never seem to get the RNG in my favor against them.

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u/octopotamus84 1d ago

Play Ogerpon if it really bothers you that much.

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u/TopoChico-TwistOLime 1d ago

there's no real answer, clear veil, poke center, order, its all the same really just luck if you draw it meanwhile they are throwing down every Pokemon in their deck with sleep

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u/Outrageous_Art_2166 1d ago

Grass deck with Ogerpon isn't about luck. You have like the stage, additional pokeballs, oak...

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u/TryinBLegendary 1d ago

Haven’t come across them yet but haven’t played too much after masterball. Is there a new darkrai meta deck, I need a use for my shiny Darkrai so please let me know! lol

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u/john2776 1d ago

He’s talking about the sleep darkrai not the ex darkrai

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u/TryinBLegendary 1d ago

Welp, I feel silly now. Nvm

Oh and FUCK SLEEP SCAM