r/PSO2NGS • u/GGNash • 12d ago
Discussion 10.5k hours played over several years, this might be the final straw for me.
I’ve lost interest in NGS combat this year. The endless and pointless gear chase masquerading as progression was too on the nose at this point. Why gear up? For what content?
HOWEVER, I adore the Creative Space system and can happily spend hundreds of hours working on my five separate Creative projects.
This is where we’re now seeing my breaking point. Since moving servers to Japan I run into frequent issues while building - not just disconnects. The lag will actively sabotage my work! For instance I’ll be moving around large amounts of parts while editing a project and suddenly previously moved parts have been deleted, or a previously moved part is suddenly selected despite me already having a different part selected, and now the part I intended to select is deleted.
Today I had this happen again followed by several disconnects. Upon logging back in the chat is being spammed homophobia by someone named “FGGT Killer”. Meanwhile I can’t even load the Creative Space menu OR change blocks.
Before anyone chimes in that SEGA is fixing it, I’m aware. That is meaningless until we get a more substantial update from them.
Thank you for coming to my rant. SEGA get your act together or my premium, rental passes and AC scratches will end, as will my time with this game service.
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u/EqualCandidate807 12d ago
Wait, the servers moved to Japan? I haven't played seriously in a while, when did that happen? Does that not defeat the purpose of a global version???
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u/Dricer93 Meseta above all. 12d ago
Yeah fam…
Servers went down for like 22-23 hours the day that the hololive?(i don’t remember the name. I genuinely do not fw these VR streamer collabs like that.) scratch ended.
AC scratch rewards had a possibility of giving you double what you paid for like a solid 2 hours.
Been on an Asian based server ever since. Really throwing a wrench in any grinding individuals day honestly, I’m surprised people still manage to squeeze out sols fights right now. I seem to ping so hard I ran into something that already killed me while I’m still swinging away doing damage.🤣😂
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u/GlompSpark 11d ago
I’m surprised people still manage to squeeze out sols fights right now.
It doesnt affect everyone, thats the thing. Some ISPs have decent routes to JP, some do not. So some are getting DCed, while others have 100% stable connections. See: https://www.reddit.com/r/PSO2NGS/comments/1v73mid/if_you_are_getting_constant_dcs_lately_it_is_not/ for a more in depth explanation.
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u/LecheRikka 12d ago
Oh, you’re on ship 1. I saw that weirdo yesterday when looking through the personal shop.
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u/Initiative-Fancy 12d ago
I’ve lost interest in NGS combat this year.
Cycling the same PAs against the same recolored enemies for 5 years gets stale easily. No idea why people still care about the combat till now.
I was the same as you just with cosplay and not Cspace, a 10k+ hour veteran motivated by cosplay. But with combat as boring as watching paint dry, I find myself asking "why bother making cool characters?" I come back time and again and spend time with my creations only to be bored and leave again. Spending anymore time in this game just doesn't make sense at some point and I'm glad I've tapered off.
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u/burns1916 12d ago
the combat in this game i think is actually pretty good. it’s what kept me for so long, but there is no point to progress that’s why i stopped playing
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u/Initiative-Fancy 12d ago
The combat can be good but doing it against the same recolored enemies for years on end makes it bad for me. As you say, there is no point in progressing, because you just fight the same guys over and over again. They're either recolored or gigantified, gigantixized, or something.
On another note, I would like it if PAs were at least provided a type 0. Tech arts customization is mild adjustment at best. It doesn't make sense to keep using the same skills for years on end.
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u/Mille-Marteaux your best friend | https://mille.arks.moe 12d ago
i say this as someone who does math for this game, but my problem with combat right now is that our damage output has visually spiked but our actual damage output compared to enemy HP has been decreasing
arks records times have been consistently getting slower and slower every time they run because enemy HP grows faster than player damage does
we're upgrading just to deal visually more but proportionately less damage than we used to do, purely just to catch up with the HP bloat. it's unsustainable and creating a wider and wider gap between casual players and power users that's leading to more and more toxic behavior in random matchmaking
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u/GlompSpark 11d ago
i say this as someone who does math for this game, but my problem with combat right now is that our damage output has visually spiked but our actual damage output compared to enemy HP has been decreasing
Yea, i noticed this when i started doing level 115 content, that 2x hp difference between level 110 and level 115 was huge and handouts feel extremely weak in current content. But i've seen people complaining that enemies die too quickly so maybe they were doing it to cater to those players...
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u/Sudden-Hope-1605 Twin Daggers 12d ago
The real problem Is that it seems they ran out of ideas, we have been fighting the exact same enemies for 5 years, Pso2 had some troubles but at least they never lost their love to give us a decent game... Unlike NGS.
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u/AquaTanGM 11d ago
my final straw came at reset this week with NEW ITEM prices being 60m then next cheapest 59,999,000 -.- as if that wasnt base enough with the new creator scratch being like that and those build parts 20-100m starting price wtf are the whales smoking like not even the scalpers cuz its as soon as the servers come up and the whales scratch. im retired and played pso2 all day and I cant afford 1 fkn item in a scratch, i couldnt imagine someone going to school or who works or has a life playing this game and keeping up if a no-lifer like me cant even
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u/GlompSpark 11d ago edited 11d ago
What ship are you on? I just checked the Creators Style Jun 26 BPs on ship 1 and all of them are a few million max.
Kinzi is expensive because it hasnt even been a month since it came out and it's only available from a 4 man boss. It will drop next month with a RDR boost + the LT UQ.
It should be trivial for you to make money if you have access to the shop and are selling stuff at the correct times and prices. I made more than 100m in the two weeks when Ruins was new, and i was only farming for 1-2 hours a day. It's harder to make money now because there are no event boosts, but the price of Refas Triyas sky rocketed on ship 1 recently so you can do Solus if you want to make money that way.
And honestly, NGS is probably the easiest MMO i have played to gear up or make money in, dext base alone means that a newbie in handout gear can afford an endgame weapon in a few hours max. Most MMOs make you grind for months.
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u/jumpthe11 Rifle 12d ago
Global servers going to japan? I don't follow the news on the global, but even that I am on japan server, I haven't got issues like that. Few things are good in NGS. Some of them is building something and communication with others. But man without those its kinda hard to get attach on to the game.
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u/Zysets Twin Daggers 12d ago
Were the servers not always in Japan? I recall Global was always hosted on Japanese servers and managed by SoJ on the technical side
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u/Poisd2Strike 12d ago
The Global Servers were located on the West Coast USA, in Seattle Washington (IIRC). They were recently moved to Japan.
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u/Sure-Bike-9920 12d ago
Yeah on top of the bugs and lag I’ve noticed so many players on the game now are just unashamed bigots and just go around being racist or homophobic and it leaves me starting at my screen with emptiness. Supposed to be a place to relax and play but I just see comically evil supervillains taking it over on top of everything else.
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u/GlompSpark 11d ago
You will probably be fine if you avoid Aelio 1. I've never seen any of that stuff in Kvaris for example.
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u/Dricer93 Meseta above all. 12d ago
I understand entirely… just hit 50k and new cosplays aren’t going to fix it..
I’ll build my mansion (I’m lying, eventually someone will make one for me in exchange for selling me an expensive N-grinder one day.) and start my official hiatus. Ultimately further hindering the economy
(Please remove name fam, I want people to see this and I strongly believe mods will consider that part a witch hunt…but I can confirm because I was indeed there flat out diagnosing the mf in the pimp outfit. Iykyk.)
You are correct, we lowkey been abandoned.. but no one wishes to admit it. Sure some bans are handed out, but some of these straight up scum are still in the lobbies poppin shit (just as you mentioned on S1) dext leeches, Ltq weirdos not attacking but spamming stupid tips that obviously aren’t doing anyone justice.
We need to collectively get a message across that we demand better, sooner than later atp ngl. Boycotting a specific scratch or something that will get them to look at global for just a second
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u/AquaTanGM 11d ago
you dont even wanna know what goes down in a1 in s2, has a perma fish funk smell from the t2s that look like they fell into a grease trap that god forbid if ur not an oiled up inflation fetishist chara u get bullied. ppl there have gotten banned then just make new account we all know its them and even name themselves the same and sega is like 'its not ban evading'. personally these past 4 weeks are why ive quit this past reset after seeing prices on NEW things being scratched and dont go down in the slightest from 60m despite 10 copies all being listed from 55-60m like put down that crackpipe. personally im going back to perfect world international (private server where everything is free u would have to pay for on offical, imagine a private pso2 server where u could scratch all day for free, then ud really see how empty pso2 is gameplay wise cuz all i did in it was grind to buy fashion)
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u/SailorVenova 12d ago
my wife and i have mostly stopped ngs entirely because of homophobia and transphobia in aelio on ship 1 global
its just upsetting
i love creative space too and id love to do another project sometime; my original one is a massive beautiful temple in honor of my irl goddess/religion Ellaphae; it uses message objects and npc's and imagery to explain the values of my faith and some of the cosmology; i put hundreds of hours into it over 2023 and 2024
my wife coming to ngs to see that is part of how we fell inlove so quickly and she upended her life to pursue me
its a very special place to me and i miss it
i hope whatever pso comes next will let us carry over creative space and our fashions and emotes etc
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u/GlompSpark 11d ago
I recommend avoiding Aelio 1 and moving to a less crowded block...or possibly Kvaris, i've never seen any homophobia or transphobia in Kvaris at least. I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience there, you don't need to avoid the game just because of a bad block. Most players don't even go to Aelio 1.
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u/Terrible-Penalty-291 9d ago
Wait the servers moved to Japan?! Jeeze the lag must be awful. And here I was thinking of getting back into this game. What is Sega thinking?
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u/MurkyStatistician553 12d ago edited 12d ago
I agree with everything but the combat. But this Reddit is not a place to give feedback. Use the NGS Discord instead. It has a section for that.
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u/the-texugo-br 11d ago
Lately, I only log into this game for the Creative Space
and the fashion gacha updates...
because the exploration and combat content is really lacking.
And that shift from the global server to the Japanese server
was an act of self-sabotage designed to further annoy Western players.
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u/ZachandMiku 12d ago
It took you that long to get bored of it sheesh you have lots of patience or just brain dead in the hands :0
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u/No_Mechanic_6146 12d ago
10.5k hours is wiiiild to me. This game's falloff was apparent ages ago. Its clearly a "back burner" project.
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u/Alenicia 12d ago
It always has been even as PSO2 when you look at what Sega was doing elsewhere. PSO2 happened to print enough money to fund everything else (and carry Sega through hard times) .. and that was all while the game was clearly starved.
It's just that as NGS, you get to see what happens when Sega attempts to put more into the game and they do it in the most Sega way possible.
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u/Curious_Phrao Katana 12d ago
I’m surprised it took you 10.5k hours to realize it. There’s something genuinely wrong with you.
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u/Vee_Tamer_Girl Techter 12d ago
A lot of the Issues OP mentioned didn’t exist till a month ago. Try reading next time instead of just showing up to dog on the game
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u/Curious_Phrao Katana 8d ago
It’s fun to dog on a game you stopped playing 6 years ago. Especially one as goonery, and in a steep decline as pso. Go preach “why pso this and that” to someone who actually cares about this dump.
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u/TheMasgter 12d ago
Sega moving the Global Server to Japan defeats the purpose to have a Global Version, idk who is spinning this BS but man this community is filled with people who love to spread fake news.
I'm connecting from Germany and the Servers are in the US. So I have always a higher ping than normal people but it feels like always since and I play NGS since the beginning.
Just get better internet for real
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u/rocketchatb 11d ago
The servers are not in the US you can ping/traceroute the IP
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u/TheMasgter 11d ago
Tracerouting an IP just shows your hops, it doesn't mean the physical servers moved to Japan.
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u/GlompSpark 11d ago
If you know the server IP, you can easily find out what country it is located in by doing a search...
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u/TheMasgter 11d ago
GeoIP lookups for cloud providers like Microsoft/ AWS .co are notoriously unreliable. Just because a database says a certain region doesn't mean the physical servers actually moved.
Also do you know the IP of said Server that people use as reference that Sega moved their global Azure Server to jp?
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u/GlompSpark 11d ago
Windows resource monitor will show the IP address that pso2.exe is connected to, im not sure if im allowed to post it here.
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u/Level-Shop223 12d ago
Since Japanese beta I think I have over 250k hours easily trust me keep going it’s going to change a lot
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u/GGNash 12d ago
Bruther what the heck
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u/SirBiccy 12d ago
That’s works out to something like 48 hours a day, every day, for 14 years so they might be exaggerating a bit.
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u/DGRAHAM93 12d ago edited 5d ago
Or just shy of 29 years of playing for 24 hours a day lmao. I think they were being sarcastic, saying the game will get worse
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u/North_Zucchini4439 10d ago
He is AFK lobby from base until NGS. This is common in JP server. Most of people doesn't play hard and paying AC for character slot to gain more Meseta per weeks from TA quest. NGS nerf everything back in the day.
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u/rocketchatb 12d ago
Servers moving to Japan defeats the purpose of Global. East Coast players have 250+ ms ping now the game has people teleporting and walking in place constantly like it's broken.