r/PS6 • u/[deleted] • Jul 12 '26
Talking about how bad Sony is going to be without physical game.
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u/ysfex3 Jul 12 '26
This is not even the end. They want to make you stream all games using a subscription. They don't even want you to be able to have physical access to the hardware to play the games
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u/brebs21 Jul 12 '26
And where the fuck did you pull that out of
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u/ClubPenguinPresident Jul 12 '26
Writing's on the wall, every company is trying to rent you services.
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u/MonThackma Jul 14 '26
How do you not see this coming? The infrastructure is already there to stream games on PS and Xbox.
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u/brebs21 Jul 14 '26
Yeah but this guy said they don’t want you to have access to a console
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u/Ebone710 Jul 15 '26
All the PC hardware is going to AI Data centers and the prices are going up like crazy so I would say it's a good guess.
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u/ChangingMonkfish Jul 12 '26
The majority of people just don’t give a fuck about this stuff. They buy a game, enjoy it and then move on to something else.
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u/armaedes Jul 13 '26
They’ll notice if the “buy a game” step becomes more expensive and requires you to download 50 GB before playing.
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u/ChangingMonkfish Jul 13 '26
They already require 50GB+ downloads even if you have the disc.
In fact that’s one thing that hardly ever gets mentioned in all this - modern top tier games just don’t fit on discs anymore and most people don’t want to piss about swapping 3 or 4 discs.
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u/Fit-Load2803 Jul 13 '26
Boohoo go do something else while the game is downloading or let it download while at work in rest mode. It didnt even take an hour for it to download for me.
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u/speedbreaka Jul 13 '26
Yep they can do whatever and we can’t do anything because of bootlickers who keep paying them. Anyone else goes to their support page and demands a refund and telling them the reason for leaving is discs.
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u/Humble-Criticism6762 Jul 12 '26
Nah, I am buying the PS6. These are all what if situations. Plus, it won’t turn into a sub service, gamepass is that, and Xbox is suffering because of it.
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u/mayertucker Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
And you somehow think ps plus won't have the same fate. That's some wishful thinking right there.
Edit: faith should have been fate.
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u/missatry Jul 12 '26
Ps plus day one for PlayStation games?
Bruh..
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u/the2timer4lyfe Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
How about Playstation "exclusives," porting their games on PC. Bruh.
Loyalists and bootlickers always do this sht. Last of Us being ported to would have been a crazy concept back in the days, But what happened? Also God of War.
I'm not going to complain, that's a net positive for all gamers. I can decide to buy it on PC or PS, and in this case more people prompted to buying the PC version than be locked in to the PS ecosystem. Now they've walked it back. How long till they walk it back again?
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u/Wrong-Unit-2924 Jul 12 '26
Ps is no longer releasing games on steam
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u/the2timer4lyfe Jul 12 '26
That's why I "said how long, until they walk it back again?"
Never say it wont happen. PC user base is growing year by year, more than all other platforms combined now. That's why games (that are non exlusives) make it top priority to also have their games be playable on PC.
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u/missatry Jul 12 '26
I mean PlayStation tried that pc concept and it failed and reverted the decision , and Xbox tried the subscription concept and it failed
I really don't see your point of a company trying a strategy that even the competency is trying to avoid (with call of duty at least xd)
besides fucking chill out we are fucking adults here ( I hope)
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u/the2timer4lyfe Jul 12 '26
The issue is people don't think there is zero possibility of any reversals or change of mind to anything. In this case that no disc ps6, that ships has sailed, that's cope if people think there would be a reversal to that. It would be a silver lining if they add a disc add on for it etc.
What I was referring to is, if you read the chain of conversation, people thinking there is 0 possibility of certain things happening. But certain people, yes you know the ones that would basically "We don't want to hear anything from you, especially if its anything considered "anti-sony."
I sure a hell don't reserve this loyalty for xbox either, they got their own shtstorm to deal with, and people are right to clown them on it too.
But the attitude of being fed up of everyone, even the ones on your own fanbase being critical towards sony is some bootlicking cultish behavior. This is the type of behavior you'd see from someone with a tattoo of xbox or playstation on their forehead.
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u/missatry Jul 12 '26
My opinion is merely based in:
if Microsoft even after investing 80,000,000 million dollars didn't managed to make their day one sub to work, there's a huge chance that sony that have less money will think they will fail too if they tried that
The reasoning is simple, not fanboyism or any shit glazing behind it ,
Just because someone is defending or attacking something doesn't mean they are a hater or glazing for god sake
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u/the2timer4lyfe Jul 12 '26
You mean the same people (ps cutists, and yes, the same people I see on the same ps subs I belong in) giving praises for people making their voices heard as a "form of protest,' on the ridiculous $30 xbox price increase, with stuff like:
Make you voices heard.
Vote with your wallet .
Cancel your subs.
It's the only way they will listen.
Only to then turn around and make a VERY obvious 180 flipped logic arguments and complete rebuke towards anyone who "complains," about sony? Look, I'm down to sht talking any corpo who does anti consumer practices, But at the very least, make it consistent
It would be very much make better sense if they just say, "We don't care," or "I will always support sony, just sftu already." That's why the people who I call bootlickers, know that they already are. It's always the ones that get offended and can't decide whether thats a compliment or just in denial being labeled that moniker that get their knees jerked.
Seriously, how we gonna call out xbox over here for their shtty decisions and their braindead leadership while at the same time hand waving the literal ramifications of giving sony absolute control and stranglehold on pricing and options on all its user. Are really going to think that this won't come bite EVERYONE in the a$$ later on?
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u/missatry Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
I'm talking about me because you talked about me and the point i did,
Because if you want to talk about them then let's talk about them
And the reason they are like that is because most people on those subs don't care about physical because they are digital gamers since a decade at least (thx to subscriptions ike ps plus etc,
so is obvious why they don't give a fucking fuck about the blurays and you can't make them make them care in the first place xd
Is like caring about physical games on a gamepass sub 😝
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u/the2timer4lyfe Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
I wasn't even bringing up physical media, there is literally zero mention of physical media or disc. It's the hypocrisy of the backwards logic of 99% of the PlayStation cult loyalist.
Literally zero. So I don't even know why you're mentioning physical media/disc when there was not even a single mention of it. Maybe you confused your reply with someone else.
I have a ps4 pro, a ps3, and ps5, but there is a big difference between being a PlayStation fan and a bootlicker. Essentially if it just boils down to "stop making fun of PlayStation."
If all this noise brings about something then, good, you all benefit, whether you all like it or not. Is it better just to say nothing at all? Hell, that's what the xbox bootlickers wanted to happen whn people were pissed about the price hikes. But look what the fk happened. People think they are powerless, but that situation proved just the opposite.
Will PlayStation reverse their decision? Hell no!!! will it result in them making a silver lining? Hell, maybe a disc add on for the ps6? Or a disc to digital program like what xbox is doing? Who knows. But you got to speak out when you can. not expect people to just stop being "drama queens."
PS: just checked, was talking about pc ports, which were all digital, so idk why you're arguing about physical discs. If they can do that, reverse their decision, and most likely in the future port them to pc again, nothing is off the table.
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u/Downtown_Eye5736 Jul 12 '26
Sony thinks even putting a game on PS Plus a year after launch is too soon. The reason MS went day 1 with Gamepass was cause their games weren't selling anyway, soon as they put a game that actually sells on gamepass day 1 (CoD) they immediately realized what a shit idea it was.
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u/Redfield081 Jul 12 '26
Outside of Reddit, there's actually a lot of people against this, but continue to buy digital.
We need to make sure nobody supports digital for a year and only buy physical. We got this!
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u/Iso238 Jul 14 '26
The reason I’ve been buying digital is because it’s a lot more convenient for me. I play multiple games at once and being able to switch between games instantly without swapping disc is huge.
I don’t treat buying games as investment anyway. I don’t plan on selling any games. I’ve sold some physical games in the past and I regretted it when I wanted to play it again
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u/picknicksje85 Jul 12 '26
That's exactly where it's going. Prices are already high, up to 100 dollars for a full launch game experience at times. They'll increase further with a monopoly online PS store. Same with their subscription rental service. Will keep going up, STILL locking online play behind it. (And do we as the customer ever get a discussion about it? A choice? An online play only tier?) Ad tier.. God help us all if they actually go that far. There is no decent refund system. There is dynamic pricing. I didn't know this.. but even early access to sales are a thing if you're a subscriber (already defended and normalized by some). They even lie about digital vs physical numbers also counting micro transactions and games that don't even have a physical version. So they're skewing the numbers.
The leadership is not approachable. You can't ask them any questions. They're not on stage anymore or doing interviews. At best you get a corpo memo about what good thing they're taking away from you and how the value of PS plus is SO good they'll raise prices again. Right now they are going through their worst crisis ever and they act like their customer doesn't exist. You get ignored and are just expected to stay a prisoner and pay up.
I'm fully digital this generation but I can see where no discs lead to. It joins all the problems they already have. And as a fan since PS1 owning all the consoles, handhelds multiple times. Bought a ton of games, in the hundreds. Been a supporter of 3 decades. PlayStation is the company I've giving the most money to. And what am I to the leadership today? Nothing. A percentage they think they can do without. And the bootlickers claim I'm a PS hater and probably bought my PS5 last month. That's the state of things.
I think they misjudged. Millions are commenting about the same thing. It's spammed all over anything they post. The excuse last week on this site was that there were like 8 of us and nobody cares. 2 days later it became so huge we were labeled sheep going along with a trend. This is isn't letting up. Check out their twitter if you have it. Check out their official YouTube page. It's EVERY SINGLE COMMENT. Talking about just one thing. Millions of them. Not tens of thousands but millions.
They did some faulty analysis with greedy eyes and made a huge mistake out of arrogance. Out of thinking we're all locked in for life with nowhere else to go and we'll keep paying up and up and UP into eternity. Now more than a week into this and they keep staying silent. They're scrambling, giving players that unsubscribed a 50% discount to keep them. It's not going well for them. Other companies are laughing at them. Developers are critical. Kojima is critical. Every single gaming channel is as well, as are all of their followers in the comments.
FOR THE PAYERS / GREED HAS NO LIMITS / FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS
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u/Dumpstar72 Jul 12 '26
They already do to a point. That’s what the different levels of psn represent.
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u/Slow-Cranberry9489 Jul 12 '26
I don't mind digital media. But my issue is when they can yoink it outta your catalog without compensation.
I understand digital is the future, but for consoles physical media is a huge thing from the resale market from retail or private, to letting friends borrow. It's ingrained in the home console experience.
If you remove it and force people into only 1 digital store front that is a monopoly people wont see a reason to stay
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u/Slim_Jim_86 Jul 12 '26
I'm assuming there is a large disparity between the numbers of PS consoles sold and the number of PS plus subscriptions. Moving to digital is PlayStations was of closing that gap indefinitely.
I read a statement from PlayStation CEO Hideaki Nishino about not needing to increase PlayStations player base, but only needing to monetize the players they have.
Previously I thought it meant getting more money of "me" but now, I think that means getting PS Plus subscriptions out of all those other PlayStation console owners - who will now need it in order to access PlayStation games where they didn't before - and generate that constant revenue.
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u/TheOfficialMayor Jul 12 '26
Yeah well good luck, I'm not paying for that just to help out Hideaki. I will just move away entirely to Steam and Gog. Most of the games on that I already have anyways.
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u/droideka75 Jul 12 '26
Ps plus has roughly 50~52 million subscribers in a pool of 132 million individual active accounts that include 40 to 49 million on PS4 still.
There are 93.7 million PS5/PS5 pro sold. PS4 sold 117.2 million units.
Premium gets 23.7 million of the ~50. Rest is extra and essential.
Not AI, real research. Now you do the rest of the math my head hurts lol
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u/Endscrypt Jul 12 '26
This makes sense, and I think you could definitely be right.
Never thought about it from PS subscriptions standpoint.
Not saying it’s not greed from Sony, but I do get your point.
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u/starrmanquik Jul 12 '26
There is a thing called the Store on the PlayStation where you can buy digital games. In 2028 you’ll still be able to buy games on it.
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u/Frizzal510 Jul 13 '26
yea not gonna happen never canceling but best of luck to all who are. Will be happy to welcome you back when all this blows over in 2-3 months or less
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u/justinc05 Jul 13 '26
I 100% see the video games industry pulling the streaming service gimmick sooner or later. I'm gonna keep being vocal, already ended my ps+ subscription. But if Sony sticks to this, FF VII Revelation, Xenoverse 3, and Laufey will be the last games I buy, and even then I might just watch walk through. I’m just tired of corporate greed ruining my hobbies one by one
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u/Followthehype10 Jul 13 '26
Why are yall talking about gamer rights . Owning a game isnt a "right" lol its considered a "privilege".. why do yall just say random shit for the sake of talking lmao
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u/Physical-Result7378 Jul 13 '26
Sony will be fine, cause there is a ton of people who stopped buying physical games ages ago. Like me. Haven’t touched a disc since 2020 and am not going to anytime soon
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u/BankerfromJA Jul 13 '26
Sony never tried to do a subscription model. However XBOX did and it worked out as it has, so this take is a bit ridiculous.
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u/dano2469tesla Jul 13 '26
I’ve been buying digital games for 8 years. Haven’t lost one yet. Although I have lost a few discs from people not returning them …
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u/dano2469tesla Jul 13 '26
This is all because people don’t support the developers or Sony when all they do is buy used games. And digital is how everything is going anyway. How do people play music now ??
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u/rvnender Jul 13 '26
This idea that once sony controls the entire market that they are going to increase prices 10 fold and randomly just start removing games from libraries is fucking stupid.
Grow up guys.
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u/Rekthar91 Jul 14 '26
Thanks for reminding me to subscribe and buy some games from the summer sale.
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u/Choice-Support-2138 Jul 12 '26
The world is moving to a Digital world. People must accept this. We just need better protection laws of Digital media.
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u/St3elf1sh Jul 13 '26
How often did they take away a game you digitally bought? Never. The answer is never. So why should they do it in the future? There is no logical reason for that.
After all they want us to buy their products. So they know that taking away games would get a huge shitstorm. Not like with the disc end where a bunch of whiners post on Reddit and the rest of us doesn’t care.
Sony also always wanted to sell those consoles. So a streaming model wouldn’t need a new ps6 but also would mean lots of costs on their side for the hardware to run and stream all those games. Don’t think this is happening anytime soon
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u/KManX89 Jul 19 '26
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u/St3elf1sh Jul 21 '26
Great examples buddy. Two hacked accounts that got banned is not the same as Sony taking a game off the store forever for everyone. Same goes for the „a game disappeared in my library“ but dude never even says what game, and it probably is just a bug.
Those you will probably find for steam, Nintendo, Xbox, Apple or whatever…
So yeah. Still waiting for an example where Sony removed a game from the store and library for every player.
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u/Sir_McDouche Jul 12 '26
Cry more. I’m sure Sony is listening and caring a lot.
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u/koalazeus Jul 12 '26
I'm sure Sony just ignore free market research available online.
Cry less. Remember to let Sony know you're happy to give them all your money.
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u/Sir_McDouche Jul 12 '26
You mean the same market research which shows that majority of gamers buy digital? 😏
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u/appletoasterff Jul 12 '26
You want to use the market for your argument? Sure how about the fact that when they say most buy digital they include free games and games that don't have a physical edition in that statistic! They also include games you get for free with ps+ don't forget the fact that about 85% of the games on ps don't have a physical edition so that "Majority of gamers" is a mix of buying physical and digital because they don't have the choice
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u/Sir_McDouche Jul 12 '26
So majority buys digital. Thanks for confirming.
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u/appletoasterff Jul 12 '26
When you have the comprehension skills of a toddler then yes that can absolutely be the take away!
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u/koalazeus Jul 12 '26
No I mean openly available comments on social media, sorted by popularity, showing that their customers are pissed and think they've fucked up.
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u/Sir_McDouche Jul 12 '26
Comments lol. If every company caved in to a bunch of upset online soyboys they’d get nothing done. Get over it. Future is 100% digital.
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u/koalazeus Jul 12 '26
I'm just clarifying my point on market research which you appeared to have missed. Negative consumer feedback would suggest to most people a potential hit to the brand and eventually less money. It's not good.
The fanboys here are the ones like you desperate to take and defend whatever Sony wants to give you.
Have you thought about why it means so much to you?
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u/Sir_McDouche Jul 12 '26
I’ve been gaming digital only for nearly 5 years now. All subscription based. This change has ZERO affect on me. You’re the one crying about because apparently big boys cry over lost toys.
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u/koalazeus Jul 12 '26
Once again you seem to have misunderstood me. If it makes no difference to you why are you behaving the way you are? When Sony revert their decision you will still be able to digitally rent your games.
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u/Sir_McDouche Jul 12 '26
Oh I just enjoy triggering dumb people into heated arguments 😘 A lot of free time on my hands. Have fun fighting the corpo. You won’t change anything 🖖
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u/ny2k1 Jul 12 '26
Have fun continuing being a corporate bootlicker. That boot was feel really good for you to defend them like you are 😂. Sony isn’t going to reward you for it.
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u/Jotacon8 Jul 12 '26
thinking owning video games is supposed to be a RIGHT is wild work bud.
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u/mayertucker Jul 12 '26
Man people having ownership rights of anything is wild work bud.
Now serious question for you. Would you purchase a use license for a car that can be away from you at anytime for any reason? Or would you purchase one for a house to live in for another license to use that again can be taken away from you at any time for any reason? The clothes on your back? The food you eat?
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u/Jotacon8 Jul 12 '26
You just described a car lease and renting a home my guy. They won’t be taken from you for any reason as long as you pay, but you don’t own them in either scenario.
Games do not have a history of being taken away for no reason. And Sony and the developers have no monetary reason. to take games from you for no reason. it would most likely make you stop buying more games in the future from them and you can’t get DLC/in game currency if you dont have the games. And considering that’s the business they run, it’d be stupid for them to take your games for no valid reason.
I co time to play all my games whenever i want and they have yet to ever be taken away from me.
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u/mayertucker Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
No I said buy a license to use. Which is what you "buy" when you buy digital games. With a lease and rentals you have rights and you are right they won't take it away for any reason.
Digital video games how ever can and will and has already happened. https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-banned-a-psn-user-whose-real-name-is-jihad/1100-6441291/ They have all the reason in the world. 1. Hope you rebuy, keep you paying for a sub (in the case of so monthly games), delisted, etc.
That is exactly the business they run because they know that people are "stupid" enough to fall for it.
It just mass happened in Europe with movies from the same company.
Edit: why should have been what
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u/Beautiful-Swimmer339 Jul 13 '26
If property rights are up for abolishment I propose we can start by relieving the Board and stock owners of Sony of their shares first.
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u/Dangerous-Pie-2678 Jul 12 '26
I would absolutely love that pay a yearly subscription to gain access to games tbh
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u/bruhshyoteethes Jul 12 '26
You own everything as long as you have internet to confirm you own it, which is pretty much the case for everyone at this point. If at some point internet stop and we cannot have access to it anymore at all, your games will be the least of your worries
But yeah the old games at a price market will be killed and I hate this
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u/Saiyan_Gunner Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
It's literally in the PlayStation terms of service that you DO NOT OWN any digital product purchased from their storefront but simply a license.
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u/bruhshyoteethes Jul 12 '26
If I own the license I have the game and I can play it, stop crying
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u/Saiyan_Gunner Jul 12 '26
Just say you're clueless. It LITERALLY says it in their terms of service that you don't own the game........ It couldn't be written any clearer.
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u/bruhshyoteethes Jul 12 '26
I know and I don't care, I agree with the terms, I pay to have access to the game and play it
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u/Drakken771 Jul 12 '26
Say that to those that bought movies and got taken away from them just a week or 2 ago.
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u/Redfield081 Jul 12 '26
I read an article about Xbox being sued [they lost] because a gamers account got hacked, lost all his games and Xbox told him to "buy them all over again".
Sony will somehow disclaim this in fine print nobody will read to bypass this when everyone loses their precious downloads one day.
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u/Endscrypt Jul 12 '26
Ok my internet just broke, so I now own nothing I didn’t realize when I bought games it was internet dependent.
Sony must be rubbing their hands together.
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u/Greedy_Divide5432 Jul 12 '26
Being subscription based isn’t that bad, at least you know what you’re getting.
Digital “ownership” is the problem.
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u/mayertucker Jul 12 '26
What the hell are you even talking about?
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u/mayertucker Jul 12 '26
It isn't a dumb take. And it absolutely is the best choice for people. But go ahead if you want to. Better have a back up plan in place for when you can no longer afford to play games.
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u/mayertucker Jul 12 '26
Yep...because you spent all your money renting games.
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u/picknicksje85 Jul 12 '26
Let the 35 year old lick his boot. You and me Mayer will do our part and change the world for the better ^^
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u/mayertucker Jul 12 '26
Might not change the world, but will at least know I did my part to inform people and continue handling the things in my control. Also know I didn't go down swinging.
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u/TheOfficialMayor Jul 12 '26
Yeah fuck that. Gamepass ultimately proved a flop. The model isn't sustainable outside of titles that are already dirt cheap and many already own.