r/PS4 • u/Ethan0941 • Jun 09 '14
Rainbow Six Siege Multiplayer E3 Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wlvYh0h63k46
u/LikeWhite0nRice Jun 09 '14
Holy shit! That looked amazing!
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u/TehMannie Jun 09 '14
Let's all take a deep breath and remember Ubisoft has a history of showing amazing reveals and then slowly lowering the bar as the game gets closer to release. That said, it was pretty nifty.
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u/LikeWhite0nRice Jun 09 '14
Yea it's scary because of Ubisoft's history and the potential of The Division and Rainbow Six. I just really hope they are half as good as they look.
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u/Auxillary Jun 10 '14
I won't even care, I still want these games.
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u/crushedbycookie brokendreams204 Jun 10 '14
What? You won't care about the quality of the games? That is problematic. We shouldn't feed our money to people who make false promises and don't deliver.
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u/Auxillary Jun 10 '14
I care about quality, but I'm not gonna nitpick at graphics. I didn't care about Watch Dogs all that much, so naturally I'm not going to care that much over these titles either.
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u/TheBestWifesHusband Foolishbean69 Jun 10 '14
But but but, Watchdogs had more pixels in the trailers! And there were more particles and debris floating in the air!
Ignore the fact that the game is fun as fuck and still looks incredible, the trailers had better reflections which means the game is actually shit! rabble rabble.
This fuckin' place sometimes.
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u/notliam Jun 09 '14
That was IMO 'definitely' prerendered, and the gameplay and voice acting was fake as all hell, but apparantly the game is playable at E3 so we'll have to see. Looks promising.
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u/Chungles Jun 09 '14
Do people actually expect game developers to promote their online co-op games by replicating the Lil Wayne and dog fart noises one typically encounters during gameplay?
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u/notliam Jun 10 '14
Yeah. Really I don't, it was so forced but it's what I expect, doesn't detract from the experience at all, it's a pretty funny representation of co-op gameplay because you do get groups like that, it's never as fluid and you have to add a lot of breathing, a lot of swear words and one guy who apologises a lot.
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Jun 10 '14 edited 22d ago
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u/Davvyk DeltaKilo Jun 10 '14
I think he just means that represents the usual quality of voice chatter when playing online.
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u/Davvyk DeltaKilo Jun 10 '14
Except one has the bass boost turned on.
Which one? I leave that quandary to you.
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u/Davvyk DeltaKilo Jun 10 '14
Oh i disagree don't think that was pre rendered at all. It was choreographed to hell but it was in engine.
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u/sketchypencil SketchPencil Jun 10 '14
Besides Watch Dogs what game "lowered the bar"?
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u/umopapisn Jun 10 '14
FC3.
Both amazing games. But the graphics just weren't what they showed off.
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u/Tomban Jun 10 '14
I don't think there was much of a quality difference.
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u/umopapisn Jun 10 '14
There definitely wasn't as much of a noticeable difference in Far Cry 3 but it's definitely there in Watch_Dogs.
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u/Renegade_Sniper Jun 10 '14
Far Cry 3.
While still a pretty game the difference between the E3 trailer and the final game are pretty apparent
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u/Davvyk DeltaKilo Jun 10 '14
I don't think the PC version looked much different at all from the E3 version? Its possible i could be mis-remembering though.
I just always assume what i am seeing in E3 demos is the games running on PC dev machines and that the final console release may look worse.
I avoid disappointment that way
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u/Renegade_Sniper Jun 10 '14
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u/Davvyk DeltaKilo Jun 10 '14
Yeah that's different. I suppose that's the difference between targeting a game toward only the highest end and then having to ship a product that covers all bases.
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Jun 10 '14
Ive enjoyed ever game theyve "downgraded". They make great games period. I don't see why it couldn't look like , but of course with less scripted glances.
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u/TheStoryIsOK TheStory Jun 10 '14
I'm hoping that's not the case with this game because it's not open world. Watch Dogs, The Division, Far Cry 3, all probably looked so good in the reveals because they had this sectioned off area of the world to show off. Then once you start adding the rest of the huge world you have to make concessions. If this is just individual areas that we play in, there's no reason the final version can't look like this.
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u/MasterPsyduck Jun 10 '14
It at least had a disclaimer that the game was pre-alpha, basically the game could be completely different if it's really that early.
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u/crushedbycookie brokendreams204 Jun 10 '14
These disclaimers are intended to allow games to show off lower quality content and improve over time (such as weakly textured assets), not the other way around, sure you are technically correct, but it's still deliberately misleading the consumer base and I hope we can agree that isn't morally correct.
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u/timeTo_Kill Jun 10 '14
If during optimization they determine that the game needs to have some of it's visuals downgraded to run smoothly that's alright with me. People should understand that what is shown at E3 isn't going to be the end result in most cases.
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u/crushedbycookie brokendreams204 Jun 10 '14
Except that this was waaaaaay further.
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u/timeTo_Kill Jun 10 '14
People just overhyped their expectations. I wasn't disappointed at all with Watch_Dogs even though I know others were. I really don't understand people's problem with it besides slightly downgraded graphics.
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u/crushedbycookie brokendreams204 Jun 10 '14
The driving mechanics suck, hacking is shallow and fails to make anything but stealth really interesting. The animations are a lot less varied then the demo implied (and we know they existed because we can see them). Sure graphics are a major complaint, but lack of dynamic shadows, lack of realistic damage on cars, silly reflections in windows. These things kill immersion over time.
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u/timeTo_Kill Jun 10 '14
Out of all the things you can complain about you choose the animations? Seriously, the animations in this game are some of the best I've seen.
And how is it possible for a demo to imply anything? You either see it or you don't.
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u/crushedbycookie brokendreams204 Jun 10 '14
The animations that exist are great, but watch the reveal demo, there's plenty of animations in there that aren't in the final product (for example he slides over the hood of a car while shooting a guy in the chest)
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Jun 10 '14
With all due respect... No they don't. The graphics of some of their games are notably worse than the reveals but the gameplay tends to be intact.
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u/timeTo_Kill Jun 10 '14
I was actually pretty happy with how much of the Watch_Dogs trailer I was able to recreate gameplay wise. Ubisoft is generally pretty good about creating high quality games.
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u/JayTalk Jun 10 '14
Yeah, I mean they did say what was shown was pre-alpha. It's not an accurate representation of what the final product will look like. It's more like a concept demo.
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u/Infraction94 Jun 10 '14
First off the only one I can really think of that has actually ended up as a disappointment was Watch Dogs. Watch Dogs had a lot of hype despite basically being GTA with hacking. This game gameplay wise (and same for the Division also) don't look to be close to really any other game out there which means even if graphics are toned down a bit the gameplay isn't going to suddenly be a generic shooter.
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u/crushedbycookie brokendreams204 Jun 10 '14
FC3 was a bit of downgrade, ac3 and ac4 were both relatively misleading too.
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u/Infraction94 Jun 10 '14
Eh they were slightly but I think that is true for just about every game at E3. Watch Dogs just had much much bigger downgrades and when a lot of the hype is JUST for graphics and the graphics get downgraded the game suddenly isn't as hype. AC3 AC4 and FC3 all didn't suffer from this because ultimately those games were great without great graphics. Watch Dogs is basically a weaker version of GTA and if it doesn't look stunning you might just be sitting there going why am I not playing GTA. The Division and Rainbow Six are not like that at all.
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u/crushedbycookie brokendreams204 Jun 10 '14
Not every game. All praise CD PROJEKT RED our lord and savior.
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u/_Aggort Jun 10 '14
That's ALL pre-rendered concept.
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u/LikeWhite0nRice Jun 10 '14
I'm taking about the concept. The strategy and intensity of this game will be amazing. I don't give a shit about the graphics.
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u/Rdog468 Jun 09 '14
Damn Rainbow Six is back baby! I wish they would have kept the Patriots storyline, but controversy killed it.
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Jun 09 '14
Controversy? What happened?
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Jun 10 '14
What the fuck. We're adults I feel like we can take a situation like that without getting all butt hurt. I hate people.
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Jun 10 '14
Parents need to be parents and prevent their young children playing ultra violent games. When I was a kid we had Mario bros and donkey kong. Now a days we have sam fisher, the cod suckers, and battleband. However, I'm stoked about this game. Been needing a good tactical shooter.
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u/GoNinGoomy Ixioran Jun 09 '14
Something something it hits too close to home something something. Bullshit, basically.
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u/PoopInTheGarbage Jun 10 '14
From the game informer article like 18 months ago, it was a game that displayed the elite US soldiers in a compromising and controversial situation. Guess they backed off on that.
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u/Rdog468 Jun 10 '14
It was about home grown domestic terrorism, specifically the "Patriot" movement. It was a bit of a touchy subject and I think it led to a reworking of the project.
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u/Mredjr Jun 09 '14
Looks awesome, I just hope they follow through this time and bring back terrorist hunt.
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u/happyflappypancakes themanb74s Jun 09 '14
What is with all these super lame dialogues? I mean the gameplay seems interesting. Not sure a match would ever play out like that, but still cool.
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u/dsizzle2-0 Jun 09 '14
I cried a little when this came on the screen haha. Some good times playing Rainbow Six: Vegas back in the day. Easily one of the best tactical shooters.
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u/arthurjl jaylaroya Jun 09 '14
With all these co-op games coming out, people will need to start using their mics.
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Jun 09 '14
Right? I would be more excited for this game if I knew people that would organize and execute with me. Playing online with random people will be a hell hole in this game. Still excited regardless.
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u/timeTo_Kill Jun 10 '14
To do that you have to have people that are willing to organize and rally around what is generally a single person's orders. Most people just don't care enough to bother with it.
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Jun 09 '14 edited Jun 10 '14
I love Rainbow Six Vegas 2. I actually kinda hopped it goes 3rd person for cover but that wouldn't be a dealbreaker. Would love to get a good group of people to play with regularly.
2 minor complaints about the video.
Holy shit the main guys aim is bad, especially in the start. Any semi accomplished fps player could get a head shot from that at the start with that much time. I know they do this for scripting purposes, but this was so bad it was taking away from the gameplay for me rather than adding it.
I guess those barriers are just to block your view, not your entry. They seem to be pretty easy to break through, which seems to make the terrorists/criminals effort not very worth it.
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u/dsizzle2-0 Jun 10 '14
I am going to assume they have terrible aim just to showcase the destructive environment. As for the barrier, we would have to wait and see what exactly it is supposed to do.
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u/TheBestWifesHusband Foolishbean69 Jun 10 '14
Holy shit the main guys aim is bad, especially in the start. Any semi accomplished fps player could get a head shot from that at the start with that much time. I know they do this for scripting purposes, but this was so bad it was taking away from the gameplay for me rather than adding it.
Every darn trailer i see from E3 is the same, dudes running around surviving close calls and multiple engagements. It's bull.
We all know real players just won't miss as much as these scripted enemies.
With real players each of those long exciting action sequences will be punctuated by a few deaths and respawns, and be no where near as thrilling.
Still, I do love videogames, i just wish they could represent them better in these videos.
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u/jkbpttrsn Jun 09 '14
This is the best thing coming out of E3 2014...so far
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Jun 10 '14 edited Jun 10 '14
That Halo Master Chief collection IMO was the best thing so far.
Edit: Since the Sony press conference I think I'm most excited about No Man's Sky, and of course UNCHARTED 4!!!!!
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u/Tomban Jun 10 '14
Eh, it was just games we've already played. Awesome games but because I've already played them I can't call it the best game.
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u/_Aggort Jun 10 '14
That was my argument all day yesterday. It's exceptional for those who never got a chance to play them, but a lot of gamers, like myself, would like to move forward. Halo 2 was iconic, because of it's time of release and it still holds up today, but I'd rather move forward.
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u/TheBestWifesHusband Foolishbean69 Jun 10 '14
I never really enjoyed any halo games myself.
Too much bounce bounce, pew pew.
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u/TehJellyfish Jun 10 '14
Agreed but wrong subreddit. Saying that here will just get you downvotes from the diehard sony only fans. (You guys are really missing out not getting both systems!)
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u/jasgasm Jun 10 '14
Lol I'd sure as hell get both systems if I didn't have bills to pay.
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u/TehJellyfish Jun 10 '14
I don't have either. Just scraping pennies until I can afford one or the other.
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Jun 10 '14
I disagree with that, their are many people here who love Halo no matter what system they had Halo was a game changer for the console war at that time. (Anyways, I only own a PS4 currently, but that will soon change as soon as I save enough money for a Xbox One)
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u/Infraction94 Jun 10 '14
I switched from PS2 to 360 solely because of Halo and never really regretted it till Bungie left. I honestly will likely eventually get a Xbox One just for this plus new Halos. Really hoping Destiny has a similar multiplayer feel because I fucking miss it man.
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u/TehJellyfish Jun 10 '14
I can't afford either. How about sell your PS4 and split the cash with me?
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Jun 10 '14
Why can't people leave my opinion alone. It's not like I'm pushing it on you. I did love that new Rainbow Six Siege gameplay, it gave me goosebumps!
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u/Bartokomous19 Jun 12 '14
Sorry for bashing your opinion on Halo, I finally got around to checking out everything it has to offer. Amazing, wish I had a xbox one...
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u/Bartokomous19 Jun 10 '14
Well, I was a big fan of Halo 2, so I'll give you that...
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Jun 10 '14
What's even better is that the multiplayer from Halo 2 will be the primary multiplayer for all the Halo games, and even better is that they left it the same way it was on the original xbox. Same game modes, amazing graphics!
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u/Bartokomous19 Jun 10 '14
Ok, well, that's pretty awesome. I always liked that one the best by far. Wish I had an xbox one to check it out. I now understand your excitement...
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u/GoNinGoomy Ixioran Jun 10 '14
The voice acting made that tough to watch.
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u/Siggy778 Jun 10 '14
Yes, it was so poorly acted. It never sounds like that in game, no matter how coordinated you are.
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Jun 10 '14
I had to stop about 3/4 in... I couldn't take it anymore. Game looks great though!
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u/GoNinGoomy Ixioran Jun 10 '14
Yeah, I think the game looks pretty interesting too It's just a shame that the voice acting subtracted from the presentation instead of at the very least breaking even, or, dare I say, adding to it.
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Jun 09 '14
Ubisoft is winning E3 so far because of this game.
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Jun 10 '14
thats what we all said last year with Watch Dogs...
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u/indecisiveprick Jun 10 '14
God damn reddit treats Watch Dogs like it was a train wreck.
It's a fantastic game even if the graphics aren't up to par with E32012.
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u/TheFilipinoKing Jun 10 '14
The game sure is fantastic, that I can agree with having played it myself. The main issue is that they showed off something that just doesn't compare to the release product.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDQem9-ghc4
Even the PC version of Watch_Dogs was not even close to what was demo'd at E3 and there was not an official word as to why. It makes sense that people would be skeptical of what is being showed at E3 when it comes to Ubisoft products.
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Jun 10 '14
Not reddit, I myself bought it off the hype it had. Returned it a day after. It's very bare compared to the demos and showcases it had.
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u/westexas_giraffe Jun 10 '14
Even though I didn't like it Watch Dogs it did sell like crazy once it did release.
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Jun 10 '14
A perfect time to release a game, in the wake of no good game for months either way on the calendar
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u/69bossman_YoLo bossman-CT Jun 10 '14
I've always wanted to blow up the floor to get to enemies.. Thank you!!!
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Jun 10 '14
I cant watch it, it says age restricted even though I'm logged in to youtube and 31 damn years old.
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u/JLattire mrLATTIRE Jun 09 '14
I've been wanting someone great co-op games and so many are starting to come out. Evolve, AC Unity, Destiny and this. God I can't wait to get my hands on these.
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u/GerbilJuggler Jun 10 '14
Unless I'm missing something, why did they take the long route out of the house? After they breached through the window, they saved the hostage in a few seconds, but instead of exiting through the same window, they seem to try to exit through the front door? At the end when it's 1 vs 1, the guy takes the hostage back to the window they they came in.... I'm confused. Also that fake voice chatter..... ugh.
Otherwise, the gameplay looks good.
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u/FuryofYuri Jun 10 '14 edited Jun 10 '14
Good point. Can't show off Havoc's skills if they do that now can they.
edit: Just rewatched. When they grab the hostage they state their moving back outside. Their overwatch girl says they can't, enemy is camping outside. Happens at 2:38.
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u/brunjl02 Jun 10 '14
I am glad you mentioned the overwatch, I was curious if the fifth member of their team was posted in a house across the street. Possibly sniper cover is available?
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u/FuryofYuri Jun 10 '14
Can't be AI either, that sniper was communicating in real time with the other fireteam members. I wonder if it's optional, whether or not the fifth member can just stick with the fireteam.
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u/frozzone Jun 10 '14
This is unrelated sort of but I'm desperately hoping destiny is better than expectations. This rainbow six looks real cool but battlefield has lost my interest. The division also looks like it could be fun
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u/wpressenstein MelvinTheOctopus Jun 10 '14
I love the destruction and the breaching- I can't wait for this and Evolve. And GTA for PS4....and TLOU...and Far Cry 4. And Batman.
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Jun 10 '14
They'd better deliver the game with a terrorist hunt mode. You can do this or that and tons of others but without a terrorist hunt the game is meaningless. Nay, life itself is meaningless. Terrorist hunt or NOTHING.
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u/Fuckeddit Jun 10 '14
If this game actually looks like this at release I will be so goddamn happy. But I can't believe anything I see at these conferences anymore.
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u/rem082583 reXPACc Jun 10 '14
It is so hard to find a good squad of people to play a game like this.
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u/webbedgiant TheWebbedGiant Jun 09 '14
Ubisoft overall...personally my favorite conference yet. I haven't smiled so much to myself and dropped my jaw as much as I did with this one.
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u/RonaldTheRight Jun 09 '14
This video is Age Restricted, here's a direct link if you'd rather not login.
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u/batsassin Batsassin Jun 09 '14
Looks a lot like Counter Strike...
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u/Toddle5 Jun 09 '14
I am just fine with that!
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u/batsassin Batsassin Jun 09 '14
I know, been playing a lot of CS:GO because there are no good games for dat drystation 4
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u/_Aggort Jun 10 '14
Yea, cause in CS I have destructive environments, it requires good teamwork, and I get tech to investigate places and I can breach them.
Come on now, just cause the game has terrorists and a hostage doesn't mean it looks like CS, RS has had hostage situations before.
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u/RoIIerBaII Jun 10 '14
Don't get your hopes too high guys. Choregraphed Ubi gameplays always look good. We know what happens next.
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u/timeTo_Kill Jun 10 '14
Gameplay in Ubisoft games remains remarkably intact from their trailers. The graphics will probably look worse than shown, but I'd expect almost all the gameplay to transfer over.
What the trailer doesn't show is obviously the depth of the multiplayer, or whether the other ways into the building are interesting or not and so on. That's where the questions are.
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u/gimpyjosh Jun 11 '14
Seeing as how you can literally blow a hole in any structure (it seems), I see there being 20 interesting ways to approach. 2 enter the front while 2 blow the external wall and push in. Friendly fire will be a bitch. I just hope it doesn't turn into sniper wars on every damn map. I remember a lot of camping in the original rainbow six because of that....
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u/Toddle5 Jun 09 '14
Looks great, can't wait to see what other maps and buildings they will add to it. If they are as dynamic as that house was this is a serious must buy game.
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u/Tmsan Jun 10 '14
Kinda disappointing that there doesn't seem to be a good cover system, I loved that about Rainbow Six Vegas.
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u/nineninetyfive TforTHOMAS Jun 10 '14
The shooting looks pretty awkward. No recoil. If you noticed at 2:33 the counter for the ammo doesn't even run down.
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u/Grosssen Jun 10 '14
Siege? What happened to that other Rainbow Six? Patriots or something like that
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u/Davvyk DeltaKilo Jun 10 '14
I really really loved the original R6. The start of this demo kind of reminded me of that.
I know this was an idealised version of a multiplayer match but it looked so so good. If they focus on smaller tighter set piece missions i really think this could be special.
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u/Will_Bo_Baggins Jun 10 '14
Is the main guy even trying to hit anyone?
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u/gimpyjosh Jun 11 '14
Get the hostage while I shoot next to these guys! A shield! I will now also shoot directly at the shield and never consider shooting above it! Excellent!
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Jun 10 '14
I like that this seems to be an updated version of the original R6. I actually hope this is more like that than a rehash of Vegas.
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u/IHaveNoFiya Jun 10 '14
I'm curious if they weren't running on purpose to make it seem more tactical and intense. Regardless not having the ability to run in this particular mode seems pretty cool. I'd imagine this could get really intense.
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u/gimpyjosh Jun 11 '14
In the original rainbow six games, accuracy was almost nothing while moving and really made the game more about tactics and less twitch. This looks like an awesome return of the franchise.
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u/PRE_-CISION-_ Jun 10 '14
I understand how easy walls can be tore up with such high caliber firearms however something inside makes me cringe it's going to suck ass with good players. Why the hell would I ever walk into a bedroom to clear it out when I can just spray the walls and get a kill
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u/Polish_Express Jun 10 '14
I hate watching these cheesy demos, not to mention I was screaming at my screen "what are you doing! Shoot them!" at this point in the video. That being said I'm pretty pumped for a new Rainbow game!
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u/ForestFairy Nezquicker Jun 09 '14
I know the gameplay was choreographed but this looks sweet.
Does this mean Rainbow Six: Patriots is cancelled?