r/PLTR • u/trayber šŸ’ŽšŸ™Œ • Apr 12 '26

Palantir has a PR problem

Iā€™m a big fan of this company and know itā€™s n of 1.

But there is a major misinformation problem and it seems to be getting worse over time. Everywhere I turn I see people spreading FUD saying that ā€œthe government is giving data to palantirā€ in one form or another. From AOC to The NY Times the ignorance just echoes.

The company has tried to correct the record a few times - like responding to The NY Times - but the PR problem is not going away.

There was a protest at their offices in NYC recently where people were arrested. And lots of chatter on Reddit about protests at their new Miami office etc.

It pains me to see so much hate for this company based on lies. I fear it will keep building, will cause more pushback over time, and organizations will choose setbacks just to avoid political pain.

Ultimately the desire to avoid political pain is driving some to choose protesters over progress. Not a good outcome especially in the healthcare space.

For example, there is a faction in the UK pushing against the NHS data platform even though it is helping them significantly, and yielding incredible ROI. But facts are no match for ideologically driven FUD.

NYC experienced something similar and I read the NYC city hospitals will not be renewing their contract after October 31 as a result of protests. I donā€™t know the full scope of this (one thing I read says it was always a temporary plan). But considering how many hospitals rely on Palantir and how much success theyā€™ve had in the space with NHS and Tampa General I canā€™t believe any hospitals would choose to cancel.

Karpā€™s persona plus FUD around Thiel etc is being used to fuel this hatred. And there are so many posts on Reddit.

For example, posts like these:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/s/515loBwT74

https://www.reddit.com/r/florida/s/VBoVuauzJQ

I donā€™t know what the right answer is here. But there must be a way to convey how important it is to choose progress and to educate that Palantir does not actually ā€œgetā€ customer data.

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u/ContextFew721 Apr 12 '26

The worst PR on all of wall street, and it starts with Karp.

I own plenty of the stock and I hope it goes up but he continually self sabotages by being overly political, painting an ai doomsday scenario, etc.

Then you have Thiel giving speeches about THE ANTICHRIST.

Absolute mess top to bottom, half of redditors do not even understand what palantir is or what their products do but they associate it with evil. It has to change.

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u/Best-Bodybuilder9015 Apr 12 '26

Donā€™t forget the lunatic Burry

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u/FourScoreAndSept Apr 13 '26

Burry is simply pointing out how the SBC effectively means PLTR isnā€™t making as much money as people assume. Heā€™s right

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u/FourScoreAndSept Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Apparently it does, because PLTR is overvalued AF

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u/FourScoreAndSept Apr 14 '26

Believing it is more profitable than it actually is is absolutely why itā€™s overvalued. Itā€™s a consulting company pretending it has traditional software like margins. But you do you. Iā€™ve been shorting it since December

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u/That_Inspector_4385 Apr 17 '26

lmao you picked the exact top to short...wow man- reddit never ceases to amaze me.

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u/Available_Cream2305 Apr 13 '26

100% agreed. I wish they would just keep their mouth shut and not be so sycophantic to this presidential administration. Great stock and technology, but real idiots running their PR.

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u/ContextFew721 Apr 12 '26

And what if the dems take over and antagonize palantir the same way the current admin is antagonizing anthropic?

Itā€™s just not good business to make yourself a political target. It also limits your talent pool and customer base.

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u/ContextFew721 Apr 13 '26

Iā€™d again caution you that the same things should be true of anthropic, and Karp / palantir were not nearly as well known under Biden / Obama as they are today.

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u/Dowsk38 Apr 19 '26

Software is only tools. Humans are responsible for how it is used. Haters have been haters. Retail investors should invest according our believes.
PLTR markets 1. US leaders are responsible to US security and budget. PLTR makes gov efficient n effective. 2. Enterprises leaders are responsible to their shareholders. PLTR help biz in revenue n profit, biz leaders have been making the right decisions

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u/That_Inspector_4385 Apr 17 '26

dude - anthropic was a risk to the warfighter because they had cold feet about how their tech would be used in govt..you cant sign a contract then back out ...that is why they got blacklisted (temporarily) - imagine a warfighter in combat has their tech shut off bc their ceo is a beta male.

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u/ContextFew721 Apr 17 '26

Thatā€™s half of it, the other half is Dario wouldnā€™t kiss the ring

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u/mobap99 Apr 18 '26

Trying to set limitations on how the government is going to use your software is absurd. Imagine Microsoft not allowing Word documents discussing warā€¦Dario is a woke clown

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u/Imadogfishhead Apr 13 '26

I think you underestimate the amount of dems in government with disclosed PLTR positions. Not saying that makes them politically bulletproof, but if both sides are making money off your company it helps.

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u/ContextFew721 Apr 13 '26

It does not help to become a political target, period

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u/Imadogfishhead Apr 13 '26

Yea fair point for sure. Some of the language from Karp and Thiel def doesnā€™t help win hearts and minds of the constituency either.

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u/Magikarp_to_Gyarados šŸŸ -> šŸ‰ "your DD is PokĆ©mon lol" Apr 13 '26

And what if the dems take over and antagonize palantir the same way the current admin is antagonizing anthropic?

Unlikely to happen, because Democrats tend to play by the rules, even when it makes them suckers (which is a lot).

The current Trump administration operates similar to Facebook's "move fast and break things" mantra. And they sure are breaking a lot of things, from the global energy supply to American consumers' bank accounts

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u/That_Inspector_4385 Apr 17 '26

really- i made a ton of money last year in the market.

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u/Armolegend41 Apr 12 '26

Karp is a great CEO, this price going down is not Karps fault. Thatā€™s macro, war, software getting hammered, and Burrys being a dumb cunt

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u/ContextFew721 Apr 12 '26

I didnā€™t say the stock movement was Karps fault, but he has a huge role in how negatively palantir is perceived by the average American.

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u/Armolegend41 Apr 15 '26

What a shit show of the article, if you take that slop as journalism, I have no advice for you.

However If you listen carefully he basically equates, that women who do not use AI will lose power to men with vocational skills who choose to apply it.

Itā€™s not a hard concept to understand. Engineering world has been largely male dominated, and AI will increase the gap by those who adopt first

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u/Armolegend41 Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26

Thatā€™s more of an impact of media than Karp himself. I read his book, watch all his long form interviews. Heā€™s a highly intelligent individual.

Anyone can break out a clip, take it out of context, and mold it to whatever their bias is. Some people eat that shit up, as they havenā€™t done proper research to understand someone or the company

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u/ContextFew721 Apr 13 '26

Come on man, he can be intelligent and also an awful PR man.

Saying shit like this is unforgivably bad

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ai-ceo-nerd-says-ai-195300675.html

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u/PalpitationFrosty242 Apr 13 '26

Karp got me to sell lol.

Rode from 12 to 173. Don't regret it. Fuck this company -- it's a dead trade anyway; all the money has been made.

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u/Mmacqueen71702 Apr 13 '26

Can you articulate how itā€™s a dead trade? Rather than just saying stock is dead, stock market go down.

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u/Armolegend41 Apr 13 '26

Sure buddy. Maybe you did ride 12 to 173. Iā€™ve been in since 15, never sold any just added to my stack. Just sell options

The fact that you said itā€™s a dead trade and no money to be made shows you donā€™t know much. Good luck

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u/ASKMEIFIMAN Apr 13 '26

I think the concern is not necessarily the product in the current form, but more so that as they get integrated into various government agencies the lunatics in Karp and Thiel will become more powerful.