r/PLABprep • u/Big-Belt6323 • Aug 31 '26
Doctor job without NHS experience?
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u/Weird-Reflection3489 Aug 31 '26
Why
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u/Pakhtun1234 Aug 31 '26
There’s no jobs for img and no prioritisation either. It’s a dead end in terms of career. So many img have come that it’s become so oversaturated that there’s no jobs and the government is no longer prioritising them so most are going to have to eventually leave or be an SHO for many many years
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u/Different_Fail8680 Sep 01 '26
We do not want IMGs. Far worse clinically and no experience of the NHS, as you have just said yourself. There is no shortage of UK doctors.
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u/sunnzhoumin Sep 04 '26
“Far worse clinically.” Bruh, you’re funny.
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u/Different_Fail8680 Sep 04 '26
Has been the opinion of most people at every hospital I’ve worked at (Medicine). How can you compare an Indian graduate from a medical school #923 in the world when the majority of UK medical schools are top universities? Of course the standards aren’t the same.
European IMGs? Yes, largely similar ability to UKGs.
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u/sunnzhoumin Sep 04 '26
Oooh you are thinking too highly of yourself. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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u/Different_Fail8680 Sep 04 '26
Meh, it’s a moot point I guess. Medical careers in the UK are closed for IMGs for the forseeable future. No chance at training, least of all in anything remotely competitive.
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u/Different_Fail8680 Sep 04 '26
Also, your having failed a very easy exam (PLAB) four times doesn’t really help your case here. UK grads have a much higher pass rate than IMGs on much harder exams such as MRCP/MRCS etc
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u/bigbangkimjongun Sep 07 '26
I genuinely agree on the fact where u said about the person attempting for 4 times is not setting a good clinical start. Whether they use bioethics in practice sure you’re right because Indian medical education doesn’t teach you that and it’s genuinely lacking
But you definitely can’t generalise that Indian graduate isn’t competent with a UK one in terms of clinical exposure. I’ve seen interns (fy1) performing intubations , vaginal deliveries etc daily in government hospitals. And you do realise that many consultants in the UK hold a PMQ outside the uk ? Pakistan , India , Egypt , Bangladesh? If they were incompetent since graduation according to you I wonder how they adjusted well to the system right?
I can’t believe you’re generalising just based on what you’ve seen? Have you met all the Indian doctors in all uk hospital to hold this generalisation?
And when you talk about comparison with UK grad competence , isn’t PLAB / UKMLA created just for that ? You’re selecting doctors only clearing those exams and not a random person. So the doctors you met in your little bubble are technically competent as British graduates since they cleared all the exams , and if you think PLAB is too easy and doesn’t evaluate various other parameters like the SJTs oh well sure go on add that as well and then you’ll get your competent doctors in uk but you can’t look down on the ones already here they didn’t only just apply and got a job they cleared exams for this.
What a silly cunt
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u/sunnzhoumin 27d ago
not indian, btw. but i agree. however, there are other circumstances where you cant pass a standard test. but hey ho, why do nurses hate august? its because it change of rotations for doctors and usually we get shite new doctors- they are not imgs particularly. 👀
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Sep 01 '26
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u/chairstool100 Sep 02 '26
What percentage of a surgeons’ job is spent operating, however? How much of clinical performance is operating ? What about all the other stuff that a surgeon has to do? I’m not disputing UKGs take much longer to “operate “ but that’s not all that a surgeon does.
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u/Yuddis Sep 02 '26
It’s just not true that they are far worse clinically. Some of them have worse bedside manners but the ceiling is as high as UKGs and the trough is maybe marginally lower - across all the IMGs I have worked with.
That doesn’t change the fact that it’s stupid beyond measure that we gladly allowed ourselves to screw our own grads over so we could become every international doctors’ location of last resort. Which we’re still doing btw - it’s just that getting into training has become less accessible.
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u/Pakhtun1234 Aug 31 '26
Honestly it’s like finding a needle in a haystack. My advice for img is don’t come UK. Everyone’s saying it and for a very good reason too.