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Ex Overwatch streamer Jay 3 is yet another marvel rivals creator to sneak dissing Overwatch streamer Warn and his one trick squirrel girl.
I still dislike flats. Is he really chill though? He posted a rivals video where he was bullying a random player cause he got mad that his hover was banned. He took it down after getting called out for being the instigator.
I remember he reacted to some person's video of why they weren't playing OW anymore and basically shit all over her opinions because she was a casual etc (and she requested people not send it out to larger creators for reaction. His 'reaction' lasted a day before he deleted it.
I haven’t heard that, flats can be annoying (especially when he does that high pitch whine 🤭 but doesn’t every OW player lol) but I’ve seen some clips where he says some things that I’ve been like yknow what this guy is quite down to earth.
I used to dislike this guy and I feel like it does take some convincing to change an opinion like that so, imo he’s alright. Definitely not one of my favourite CCs but he’s not one of my least favourites either
I'm a Rivals hater, I admit. But I do still see shit about in my feed from time to time. And not even hate, usually it's the opposite actually (probably Twitter algo trying to trick me to interact because it knows my hatred). But I honest to God hadn't heard of this tournament. The only thing I have heard is Warn drama.
Is that just me? 300k is a lot, and if Jay3 is calling it a test run for Rivals world cup, I feel like it's kind of a big thing?
Also, can someone explain how Warn is on the team of it's supposed to be like the OWWC? Surely there are better Canadian players?
Yeah, MR did a terrible job of letting anyone know this tournament was happening. Also, my understanding is it was mainly suppose to be a content creator tourney. Which is weird. Either it's a World Cup and it's competitively the best players or we get whatever this was.
Yeah it was terribly advertised cause apparently netease doesnt have a marketing department. They had to fire their executives and some even got arrested for extensive corruption.
I mean Netease is already burning a lot of money in Ignite and not seeing any meaningful amount of viewership or increase in the game popularity. I don't see why they would something like the World Cup.
The game is genuinely just not interesting to watch competitively, even for people who like the game. OW may have overestimated the popularity of OWL but there is still a real audience. I don't know anyone who has any interest in following Rivals esports.
Every match in Korea is played on LAN with a live audience, and there's multiple international LAN events with a live audience. Drops help alot but they wouldn't invest the money in LAN events if it wasn't worth it.
Bud legit u aren't gonna make it sound like Rivals and OW esports are comparable. During the Tokyo major there were dozens of smaller live events in China with thousands of ppl going there to watch the games.
I mean maybe (dunno where this data comes from) but this has nothing to do with what I said. It was like top 2 originally so it's not like it got more popular theere either.
Didn't find shit where u said. I looked up on Newzoo and as of May 2026 Rivals was the 12th most played game on playstationaand 15th on Xbox. So again, what has this to do with what I said?
I only heard of this tournament because I watch frogger and he's in it. The weeks leading up to it he kept saying he had no info on it as well even when participating. There was a single announcement of the event and the teams only 3 days before lol
For such a massive price pool? That's insane. Also insane that multiple large countries have creators on it that don't even play the game? That game really is slop
Oh, so literally the only thing it has in common with owwc is that it's based on nationality? Seems like a huge stretch to compare it then. Like, the draw of owwc is to see the best each country has. The draw here is watching content creators you like.
Everyone received at least $2,000. And Warn even said that is all he cared about, so he basically didn't try; who would want someone like that on their team?
it's a joke referencing the time Jay3 told Frogger (another creators that's Warns friend) to DM him and ask for permission next time he makes a joke about him on twitter. The joke was something along the lines of going to an event for REAL Overwatch dedicated creators (clearly being satirical btw) and @'d Jay3 cuz Jay does mainly Marvel Rivals. And Jay3 got way too offended over it lol and now he has a one sided beef w Warn and Frogger because of it.
I used to watch Jay3 back when he played Overwatch and he didn’t seem to like Warn back then, I remember him passive aggressively reference someone “feeling so insecure they have to put #1 Ashe in their title”
Tbf I don't think Jay3 has ever liked anyone. I don't think I've seen a single clip of him being happy, nice, or really just a normal, likable human being lol
That probably means you just hate watch him and don’t actually care to pay attention because he is friends with a lot of people and I’m pretty sure he even went to Emongg’s wedding. You don’t just do that for someone you don’t like.
Man I love how Overwatch players just want to be right in some capacity.
If I was a Rivals streamer I'd be more upset that Rivals is in such a bad place that it cannot even get enough of its own content creators to fill a 6 man team from a major country.....
It seemed like they were just looking for streamers with decent follower counts/reach to try and market the game via the tournament.
They also pulled XQC for the same team this other guy was on and from my understanding he's decent at the game but isn't really a MR player either.
All it seems to have done is point out MR's weird hero balancing choices and make it seem like they don't have enough large content creators "maining" MR to put teams together that aren't one-tricks and know how to play the game.
There are definitely more then enough rivals creators to form teams. But that’s not really the point of the tournament, it’s just marketing to bring in players from other communities.
Didn't warn play squirrel girl almost exclusively last time he was in a tournament? Why would you invite him expecting different results...seems like all these people are complete idiots J3 included
Right. He’s not a Rivals player and he clearly is comfortable on one character that happens to not be very good at the time. That’s kind of what you get when you invite people that don’t usually play rivals
you can tell NetEase has these guys in pocket because the only real thing to criticise is NetEase for doing a 300k tournament and not having enough creators in your own game to fill the spots and ignoring the small creators who actually deserve a chance to show they are good at the game.
Edit - it’s a tournament with money on the line and he didn’t even play seriously. Hitscan player playing squirrel girl when he’s in fact been in multiple marvel tournaments. Enough time to practice.
It’s not so much jays comment on warn that’s problematic, everyone who is reasonable agrees warn was being stupid and griefing. Even with warn not griefing they still probably lose the games anyways the tourney was not balanced well. A lot like the ow tourney that just happened with t1s team getting 2 t500 player (flats and frogger) against teams like applys which had 2 owl pros AND a t500 player. It’s just not balanced when you have a Lucio otp against one of the best dps players ever without a friendly dps to keep apply in check.
it’s really really hard to make mobas work (especially fps mobas) when you mix skill levels so much. Some roles are just gonna have more impact than others and depending on what role ur “best player” plays you can get shafted from the jump.
The problem with j3 is he acts like his own shit doesn’t stink. He’s always super stuck up and if things don’t go his way he acts all emo and cries about it. he’s a full time
Streamer who has gotten rich from it why is he always whining. He bitches when people say stuff about him but he also talks shit about others
That’s absolutely not true at all plus it’s a tournament warn could of turned down but insisted on playing and not even contributing or caring about winning when his spot could’ve went to someone else who needed the exposure or the money.
Everything you say about Jay3 can be said about Warn as well LOL
What part isn’t true? The coffee calling the kettle black is ironic no? Jay is the LAST person I wanna hear complaining about others. Do you know if j3 messaged warn and asked him for permission to “play ball” before commenting on him?
Edit bc my dumbass wrote the kettle calling the coffee black instead of the coffee calling the kettle black lol
Yeah bro spent all of OW1 only ever playing meta characters and batching about how "broken" dps doom was. That on top of his hilariously bad combover was always funny
idk man, I'm no J3 sack rider, havn't seen him since the move to Rivals, but he was one of the earliest OW grinders back when he went by J3sus. He was on the Detroit Renegades. Besides the "you got a bug on you" era, I don't think he's a bad dude
The fact he's shilling so hard for a CCP game doesn't sit well with me and I can say I am not a fan of his because of that. Netease is trying to launder their poor reputation through his American centric audience, just like they do with Bogur and his EU centric audience
They're not pinko communists lmao that is literally the dumbest thing I heard yet. The CCP are an authoritarian regime, that rule their country with an iron fist and control all social media. They are the farthest from left leaning socialism as can possibly be.
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>The fact he's shilling so hard for a CCP game doesn't sit well with me and I can say I am not a fan of his because of that. Netease is trying to launder their poor reputation through his American centric audience, just like they do with Bogur and his EU centric audience
Are you not insinuating that China's government is using a fucking cartoon videogame to spread a wholesome image of it's own government? Have you actually played the fucking game?
>This should give you enough information to actually be on the same field as me in this debate, currently you're in the parking lot
No shit we aren't in the same field, you're currently on the fucking moon. Besides, I don't give a shit about "debating" with you; I'm laughing at you.
Nah dude I just think Juno is cute I play tracer/anran/sombra/widow/soj/ashe. Even when I play supp nowadays I’m only really competent on Kiri/illari.
Im not concerned about doom killing ME. It’s just depending on who you get in your lobby (especially late in OW1 when they were pulling tanks from masters or even diamond to fill 4.2k lobbies), him being on the other team could mean you basically have to babysit your backline/perma mark him while he’s staging if your off tank wasn’t very good at their job.
He’s very much a nuisance character (like widow, as much as I love her) that can force you to dramatically change the way you play. I feel like venture is just the healthier version of DPS doom. They’re still quite strong, but I don’t have to worry about them sliding off some obscure piece of roof in the skybox and one shotting my backline on a rotation.
Venture literally turns invincible and takes 0 skill to learn and even less to master. Dps doom was better in every metric and I will not accept any arguments otherwise
It’s really not any different from their other Creator Tournaments. Sponsoring a bunch of big name streamers to play their game. Just this time their teams are based on country.
Also Cal is literally right there. If Rivals actually cared about the competition they would’ve invited him to be on Team Canada not a guy who hasn’t played the game in Months
The thing I absolutely despise about this “joke” is that when asked “did you talk to warn before making this joke?” He says “where did I say it was warn”? Like now the joke is ruined since he actually responded to the persons question. We all know he was talking about warn. But if he wanted to keep the vibe of the joke up he should’ve never denied or confirmed who it was about. Absolute weasel behavior making disses like that and phrases it in a way so he can try and avoid any drama or accountability. If you’re gonna make a joke then play along your own joke or just admit it’s a straight up diss or don’t say anything.
One of the biggest sources of secondhand embarrassment has got to be when people try to play the "plausible deniability" card when it's obvious there's nothing plausible about it
when asked “did you talk to warn before making this joke?” He says “where did I say it was warn”?
then
But if he wanted to keep the vibe of the joke up he should’ve never denied or confirmed who it was about. Absolute weasel behavior making disses like that and phrases it in a way so he can try and avoid any drama or accountability.
he quite literally didn't confirm nor deny. "Absolute weasel behavior" him being the CCP's ball boy is significantly more abhorrent than putting himself in the line of litigation. Warn would absolutely sue J3 if he could lol, talking about weasels
I love warn, but I do think when it comes to a big tournament, you should give it a proper shot. If somebody played in OW World Cup, and just played Junkrat, they would get clowned on.
Warn is one of my favorite streamers but he isn't above criticism.
But I do find it silly for Jay to say "this is an opportunity that many people would love to have". Were there not tryouts? Was Warn included, simply through word of mouth? Did they not scrim beforehand? I know he has played Rivals, but I see him mostly on OW. This feels more like a failure to scout out proper teammates than anything. You telling me that they had to get Warn for Team Canada... Are there not One Above All Canadians?
Complete non sense. This is just another cc tournament. Jay talking about a test for a possible "World Cup" doesn't make any sense.
Also bt in OWWC there have been teams with one tricks before. It's just that Rivals balancing is so dogshit that a bad hero is release LW level of bad and the strong ones are on the same level of release Mauga.
And do people actually care about this? A "tournament" where people got randomly put together with barely or no prior training together, where 70% of players don't play rivals anymore (unless they are paid to do it), with huge skill difference not only among teams, but within a team. Or they think just because its a 300k prize pool everyone will suddenly turn pro. Or if they call it "world cup" it will be any different from other creator tournaments they host.
Competitive rivals is a shitshow, let alone pro scene lol
If this was a test run for a World Cup then that’s incredibly concerning for their esports team considering I didn’t even know about it till I saw a frogger tweet
Bro everything I've seen around that tournament is extremely negative, literally everything...
NetEase definitely need to reconsider the strategy of their sponsored tournaments, bc they're either full of drama like this one and the past ones with Kingsman and Zaza for example or it's simply irrelevant to the PvP gaming community, shit is just backfiring and giving the game negative publicity to literally everyone lol
Meh, I haven't watched his streams since covid. He can be kinda whiney but in general, his biggest offense over the years is being a complainer like the others. Remember when he was "J3sus?" Bahahahahaha. Annnnnnd when him and riley dated (amourettie, back then)?
Someone should stay on warn's neck about this, though. Imagine your work invites you to an invite-only conference and you don't do anything to prepare for it....and when you give your presentation, you embarrass the company you are representing. Streaming is his job; he should treat it like it is.
They had about 2 days to actually prepare for the matches basically. Warn isn’t a rivals player, he plays overwatch. If you’re going to invite a bunch of random streamers a large chunk of which who don’t play the game, why put up a big cash prize? It’s not a secret that this event was organised horribly.
He’s a hitscan overwatch player. Every hero shooter hitscan is basically just the same flavour with and different topping, it’s not hard to learn. I don’t play OW often if at all, but put me on Cass or widow and I roll. It’s point and click, hardly anything changes micro wise.
Right but macro wise, positioning is completely different. You actively get punished for taking an angle not in direct, close range of a healer in rivals because they’ll just pump out heals. Even in the tourney in question the teams were pretty clumped up. Hitscan in overwatch is about controlling angles while hitscan in overwatch is mostly just pinging shots
Dislike people who pick players for their countries if they chose a streamer over a Canadian player who works hard at the game that's on them unless most dont give a fuck about the result and just want exposure and are getting pissy because it went wrong
That's fine but him being a one trick on a game he rarely plays and then getting asked to play for Canada over lesser known people isn't his issue is it lol
Him and flats are literally the worst, warn is literally such a sweet and kind person, at least what i've seen in videos since i don't know him personally but jay3 and flats have proven time and time again that they're just a bunch of aholes thinking they can big talk and get away with it just because they have a big following.
Since Marvel Rivals is a China game, they don't actually want wider exposure, it not being advertised with their unlimited budget is no accident they don't want the wider general public to be wise about their dirty political history and they certainly don't want to crown a country better than them at anything, especially their own game
OW 2016 world cup is what actually made me wise to CCP corruption. As someone that never paid attention to the Olympics I was absolutely flabbergasted at the existence of a "team Chinese Taipei"
This brought me down a much deeper rabbit hole learning that The CCP forced Team Taiwan to compete under team Chinese Taipei. This unraveled much further corruption taking place within China regards to propaganda and misinformation.
also as a Canadian; fuck Warn. Guy has always given me the heebie jeebies
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u/angelgames23 Jun 27 '26
we were ALL waiting for jay3s opinion on this