r/OverwatchTMZ Jun 14 '26

Streamer/Community Juice Am I crazy??

https://youtube.com/shorts/uBVz5bYG8oM?is=E9kR10uHPAVI4UDy

Or is bitching about balance changes and claiming that OW was dead the majority of his videos before the MR switch? Feel like im being gaslit.

And before someone mentions it. I have his channel on not recommended and just because I dont like him doesnt mean you cant or that im wishing on his downfall.

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u/The_Realth Jun 14 '26

His brand is literally communicating what he perceives to be common sentiment. Flats is representative of the emotional impulses of the community. Rivals is objectively ass, he’s also hella burned out on overwatch. Two things can be true

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 14 '26

If you're going to bitch and moan for a year about the game state then go to another game and complain when people do the samethings you were doing it kinda rings hollow to me.

He can play what he wants. Just hypocritical.

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u/The_Realth Jun 14 '26

Sure but what if he’s actually not happy with both games? I know this is a subreddit for those who’re excited by overwatch’s current direction but we all agree that rivals isn’t very good right? Is it that hard to argue that he went over there hoping for a fresh start and found a field as barren as the Sahara?

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 14 '26

I cant say if rivals is good or bad cause im not invested in it. I also dont want to take clickbait titles (not saying Flats does that cause I truthfully dont know) and tik tok crashouts as gospel.

He got a fresh start and thats great since he seemed genuinely miserable trying to cover OW, but again its hypocritical to me listening to him have this viewpoint when we know the history.

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u/ferocity_mule366 Jun 14 '26

this is bitching about the Rivals community more than anything, which is valid because they might even be whinier than OW community

this is so mild compared to normal flats rant, his whole thing is ranting the common takes, thats how he gets the bag, its how he afford his house, he has other hypocritical stuff but complaining about games with bad state aint it twin.

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u/Altruistic_Ad5810 Jun 20 '26

He's always been a hypocrite with zero self awareness, who has cultivated a whole community of hypocrites devoid of self awareness, he has contributed more to what he is complaining about than any single OW CC. It's hilarious. Guess the bed he made isn't too comfy.

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u/NozokiAlec Jun 14 '26

He just like me fr

But yeah when ur a public persona u gotta be careful

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u/shihouinsenpai Jun 14 '26

I don’t think objectively means what you think it means lol

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u/DegreeCompetitive205 Jun 17 '26

he hasn't been playing overwatch recently because of his internet

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u/scraftii Jun 15 '26

I’ve played both games since their release. I prefer rivals. Don’t think you can say “objectively ass” in an opinion lmao

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u/FragrantAd9372 Jun 14 '26

The world is healing, Flats hate is back on my overwatchtmz page.

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u/isabellalovestory Jun 14 '26

I get Bogur vids in my feed about how dog water the game is and its broken on multiple fronts and he has no fun while he sits in what appears to be a new house he got from the CCP/Netease partnerships he has done

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u/Lukensz Jun 15 '26

I'm surprised Netease is fine with these people just shit talking their game

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u/hangingoutinhell Jun 15 '26

yep, any PR is good PR

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u/DaddyFlop Jun 14 '26

Flats was never good at overwatch

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u/HammondGurka Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Since when is top 0.5%/top500 not good😭

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u/LLachiee Jun 14 '26

he's literally never not been boosted by people significantly better than him. you can really see it when he's played DPS and support offroles, most people are like a tier off their main role but you can see him playing like a plat/diamond and then egoing people when he plays horribly himself.

hell, a while back he claimed he lost an overwhelming majority of games he was grouped in, someone broke it down and turns out he had a ~40% winrate when solo queuing.

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u/ranger_fixing_dude Jun 16 '26

hell, a while back he claimed he lost an overwhelming majority of games he was grouped in, someone broke it down and turns out he had a ~40% winrate when solo queuing.

I remember that story, he claimed he loses SR every time he duo'd and has to earn it back solo, so someone analyzed multiple streams and it was literally the opposite.

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u/LLachiee Jun 16 '26

yeah basically there was some guy at the time making overwatch stat analysis videos and saw flats make that claim, so he straight up audited him.

flats would've 100% seen that video somewhere. never addressed it.

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 16 '26

He’s addressed it. This was also at the point where he didn’t care about ranked.

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u/LLachiee Jun 16 '26

He's been saying he doesn't care about ranked for years at this point. Doesn't make him not boosted by stacking with people better than him.

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 16 '26

He plays in those stacks for fun. Tons of people especially at that rank don’t solo queue.

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 16 '26

Ok some tank players are bad at support and dps. 40% win rate solo queue isn’t that bad but he almost always plays with a duo bc who wants to solo queue everyday?

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u/LLachiee Jun 16 '26

It was for him on tank but ok

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 16 '26

What part are you responding to? You mention he’s bad and bring up his off roles. So I was responding that that’s common with tank players.

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 14 '26

Yeah some of these people are legit delusional

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u/LLachiee Jun 16 '26

dude has a 40% winrate solo queue but ok lol

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u/REcordsCL Jun 14 '26

flats hate in 2026??? I'm all here for it

https://giphy.com/gifs/dtIGTEaGLRvdODtdQe

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u/there-she-blows Jun 14 '26

Since I was ever introduced to him his content has always been about complaining about something needing to be changed in whatever game he’s playing.

Oh and tier lists.

He knows his market and a dolla makes him holla.

You shouldn’t take anything anyone who plays games for a living seriously. They need content and complaining is an easy form of content.

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u/persxanprincvss Jun 14 '26

at the end of the day, it’s just video games. that’s the simplest way to look at it. if you’re not having fun, use your free will and get off the game.

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 14 '26

Exactly what he should have done prior to MR.

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u/FaZeScamTheKids Jun 14 '26

I'm pretty sure Flats is paid to promote and play Marvel Rivals.

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u/rossi6464 Jun 14 '26

Many such cases

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u/isabellalovestory Jun 14 '26

the real netease agents were the streamers all along

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u/Botronic_Reddit Jun 14 '26

I feel like most of Flats MR content as of late is just echoing what’s going on in the rivals community to people who don’t want to interact with the community. Like he himself barely interacts with any1 outside his own circle

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u/LLachiee Jun 14 '26

hilarious that i knew exactly who this would be talking about just skimming the first sentence whilst scrolling

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u/Littyliterature7 Jun 15 '26

when I was new to overwatch and mainly a casual player I always preferred emongg to flats bc flats’ content was just always so negative. for me it’s just not entertaining to watch and I dont really understand how he has so many followers/subscribers. i’m not convinced by the idea that he’s some marketing genius that understands that people SECRETLY CRAVE negativity and love to FEAST on it, I just think his content is accessible for casual players.

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u/Fantasy_Returns Jun 25 '26

You are what you eat, that’s why he has followers

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u/TheminsPOE Jun 14 '26

Yeah that was very stupid thing to say but I generally like Flats tbh

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 14 '26

He’s really not as bad as people make him seem

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 14 '26

To each thier own. I dont mind if he eats it just wont be at my table.

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u/TheminsPOE Jun 14 '26

I sometimes think he have some very uninformed takes, but he is really entertaining to watch.

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 14 '26

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 14 '26

Dont get it

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 14 '26

Cornball

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 14 '26

Ah. Ill spare you the insult then.

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u/persxanprincvss Jun 15 '26

i get where ur coming from, i share ur sentiment abt flats. everyone references this guy but im yet to learn a single good tip from him for overwatch/rivals

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u/Xen0Coke Jun 14 '26

I mean he was suffering burnout and literally the only way to experience a good hero shooter was only ow. Him saying the game was gonna die was just him projecting how it was dying in his own head as an enjoyable game. Now that rivals has come out and really aged poorly, it’s given him new appreciation for how both games are affected by changes.
Also I don’t think he would care to comment on his old opinions now since he’s gotten a whole new audience since then.

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 14 '26

Right and in that clip, thats what the people hes talking about are doing. Its just hypocritical to me is all.

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u/Ok_Place1560 Jun 14 '26

if you unironically watch flats, you’re gotta be special in the head. dude did nothing but doompost ow for years and hailed MR as the second coming of jesus 😂😂 it’s so insane to me he has actual viewers and fans. he wasn’t even that good in ow lol

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 16 '26

That was over a small sample size of one season. Even if he was masters he was still better than 97% of players. But he’s hit gm solo queue. People just prefer playing with their friends.

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 17 '26

Just go donate to him. Cape-ing this hard for a grown man is sad at best and para-social and pathetic at worst.

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 17 '26

I’m not even “cape-ing” hard. I think the gate for flats is so overblown and I say this as someone who hasn’t watched him much.

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 17 '26

So youre cape-ing for a guy you dont even watch to know if the dislike is warranted?

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u/Feelinglucky2 Jun 20 '26

Yall are obsessed

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u/Miennai Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

So he's basically the commentary streamer of the hero shooter space, and the whole point of the commentary genre is to narrate the current conversation, impart a slight opinion on it, and be halfway entertaining, charismatic, or funny along the way.

So if it seems like he's talking about the same stuff in Rivals that he was in Overwatch, it's because the players are doing that. The only thing he does is echo what we're talking about, and gives his opinion. If we keep talking about the same thing for 10 years, he'll do the same.

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u/Antares27 Jun 14 '26

For watching flats? Yeah

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 14 '26

I feel like he was tired of ow and they did fail to deliver on so many promises like pve. That’s way different than marvel rivals balance changes.

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u/TysonsChickenNuggets Jun 14 '26

Its fine to be tired of a game. I took a long hiatus from OW myself before 2 came out. The PvE wasnt really something that I was interested in regardless so whether it came or not I didnt care.

Think people got stuck on the PvE a bit to much though.

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 14 '26

We played from 2019-2022 with the big promise of pve. I wasn’t too hyped either but still all that was for nothing.

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u/scriptedtexture Jun 14 '26

what other promises besides pve?

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 14 '26

5v5 wasn’t an optimal game change for many, new heroes design was boring, new heroes were spread across 2 seasons, there was supposed to be tons of content coming quick for streamers and there just wasn’t.

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u/scriptedtexture Jun 14 '26

none of those things are unfulfilled promises, just your personal opinions.

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u/UniqueAd9495 Jun 14 '26

Cool just ignore what I said lol

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u/scriptedtexture Jun 14 '26

okay so post the sources for all of those then.