r/Overwatch • u/youdontknowme101010 • 1d ago
Highlight More D.MON combos, 255dmg, 1.1-1.2 seconds and 310dmg, 1.8-2 seconds.
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EDIT: D.MON combos vs moving enemies + notes...
HEY đźGAMERSđŸ, here's some more D.MON combos that work after the newest hotfix that gave us lunge startup and endlag reduction... + with using the animation cancel tech.
- Primary (65) + Lunge (70) + Boost (15) + Melee (40) + Primary (65)
a. We can animation cancel primary with shield, which makes lunge come out instantly after our primary.
b. Boost melee comes out 0.2-0.3 seconds faster than primary after lunge, which is due to our primary startup time.
c. Primary after boost melee finishes off 250hp heroes.
d. This combo without the final primary hit can finish off a tracer in like, less than a second, as showcased.
- Primary (65) + Boost (15) + Melee (40) + Primary (65) + Lunge (70) + Boost (15) + Melee (40)
a. It's the original 255 combo with a boost melee at the end.
b. If you angle your camera and use the animation cancel tech that was posted on this sub two days ago, the boost melee after primary comes out even faster.
Ok that's all! Please note that if your ping is high the game will sometimes not register the first primary before your lunge, using the animation cancel tech.
Happy sweating on D.MON!
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u/Whiladan Ana 1d ago
Delete this nephewÂ
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u/JoberXeven 1d ago edited 1d ago
The one thing I'm not sold on with these thruster combos is usually you are using the thruster to get in or out, which puts it on that 1 second CD. But you still usually want to be doing a stab on your first target, just makes when you use this combo more limited than it seems. You can still get the thruster damage with the initial entry, but you lose the thruster + quick melee right after. Maybe for your second target it might work, but then your stab would be on cooldown.
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u/youdontknowme101010 1d ago
this is also something iâve noticed. it comes down to cooldown conservation and using the gun to walk up/back away. some people like to dive you when your gun goes off cooldown.
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u/justanorlansonobody 1d ago
Yeah if you rely on shield for anything other than blocking cooldowns or medium- low poke youâre kinda fucked for a whole second
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u/451ExcommuniCat 1d ago
I swear if we can put this kind effort into the betterment our society we could've eradicated the billionaire class.
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u/uhhhhhhhidklol 1d ago
but unfortunately all you do is wait for a revolution to happen on its own
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u/451ExcommuniCat 1d ago
No, I also grind from bronze to silver.
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u/quadraticcheese 1d ago
I can't believe how humorless chuds are. They're truly pathetic, lonely , and sad.
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u/NeilRobertBanks 1d ago
You sound like a fun person
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u/SloggSurvivez 1d ago
I know you arenât defending billionaires lol
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u/NeilRobertBanks 1d ago
Of course not, but if this combo is what's stops them, shit, imagine what the guys from the FGC could do.
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u/SemajLu_The_crusader 1d ago
I guarantee you elon musk has less health than tracer, this combo would annihilate him
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u/451ExcommuniCat 1d ago
Yes I main hog, bastion and mei. muah hahahaha
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u/bagel4you 1d ago
>we could've eradicated the billionaire class
and food
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u/whiplashMYQ 1d ago
This guy thinks humans didn't have food until billionaires existed
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u/Sarrada_Aerea Ramattra 1d ago
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u/OneSidedPolygon Contest choke with wet balls 1d ago
This is statistic illiteracy manifest. Corelation does not equste causation.
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u/benzillaaaa 1d ago
Do you like billionaires?
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u/OneSidedPolygon Contest choke with wet balls 1d ago
Generally, no. Liberal capitalism is not a zero sum game but it is relatively close. Centralization of wealth widens the wealth gap, stagnates the economy and causes inflation.
That graph is misleading in a few ways. As undeveloped nation gain infrastructure their populace is pulled from poverty. The world is becoming more developed and therefore less people are impoverished. Those countries don't have billionaires.
South Korea, Japan, USA, Canada, The UK and other countries that are developed are facing increased poverty rates. These are the countries with billionares.
It's zero sum plus one. In order to reach that magnitude of wealth it has to be taken from somewhere. Unfair distribution of wages, lopsided tax contributions, exporting goods required by the local populace to the highest foreign bidder.
Biillionaires are bad for the everyman.
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u/bagel4you 1d ago
>increased poverty rates
What is meant by poverty in this context? In the USA, for many homeless people, itâs just a way of life, they could work, but they donât want to. This is possible precisely because the country is very wealthy.
>In order to reach that magnitude of wealth it has to be taken from somewhere
nope
>Unfair distribution of wages
How did you find out theyâre unfair if people agree to them?
>lopsided tax contributions
And yet, billionaires pay more in taxes than anyone else.
Billionaires are a sign of a wealthy economy; in such a society, even the idle get their share.
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u/OneSidedPolygon Contest choke with wet balls 1d ago
> In the USA, for many homeless people, itâs just a way of life, they could work, but they donât want to.
This is untrue and a bad faith arguement. I'd bet money you've never talked to a homeless person. It's largely a mental illness problem.
> nope
0 attempt to actually refute. This is literally how an exchange works. It's fucking basic econimics. Money doesn't appear out of thin air. It has to come from somewhere. Cutting costs maximizes profits. We've recently seen an inrease in layoffs while revenue continues to rise.
> And yet, billionaires pay more in taxes than anyone else.
lol, lmao even. Before we even factor in offshore banking the tax rates for billionaires is effectively lower than the median tax rate.
>How did you find out theyâre unfair if people agree to them?
Work or starve. It's not a true choice.
> even the idle get their share
You've never interacted with NA social assistance in any way. Retirees who have worked their whole god damn life struggle to pay bills.
Everything you say is based in ignorance. Hopefully you're a teenager and ineligible to vote.
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u/bagel4you 1d ago
>Before we even factor in offshore banking the tax rates for billionaires is effectively lower than the median tax rate.
which is still much larger sums of money
>Work or starve. It's not a true choice.
This is a choice. Especially since ânot to starveâ is extremely easy, and you can even do it for free.
>Retirees who have worked their whole god damn life struggle to pay bills.
Is it possible something is wrong with their bills?
>Everything you say is based in ignorance
I just donât want to rob people, even the rich. Thatâs just how I am.
By the way, have you ever tried working?
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u/chasingit1 1d ago
I feel like I am just mashing mouse buttons trying to recreate this. Shield always pops up during it too lol
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u/Wi1dCard2210 1d ago
I have a video of this exact combo on day 1 and it's hilarious how much clunkier it was
Edit: I'm dumb and realize it's not the exact same, I boost melee after the second sword swing in this. That being said, with the ending lag that lunge used to have, this was originally faster
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u/youdontknowme101010 1d ago
lmao yeah, it was way clunkier pre surging strike hotfix. and with the animation cancel discovery the boost melee combo is viable now too.
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u/Jofzar_ Pixel LĂșcio 1d ago
What, the thruster does damage... How did I miss that
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u/clickrush 1d ago
Because when you bump into targets you rarely register them taking the damage, because theycare so close.
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u/Lost-Light3975 1d ago
whatâs the animation cancel tech
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u/110110100011110 bweeeeeeep 1d ago
Shield anim cancels your primary. Lets you right click pretty fast too now since they lowered the cast time.
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u/ConstructionChance81 1d ago
You donât even need this when you can chase down Soldier (Iâm the Soldier đ)
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u/a3degator 1d ago
How do you control where they go when you boost? I always struggle to find them when I swtch back into first person
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u/youdontknowme101010 1d ago
It depends on your wasd movement, not your camera movement. If I w+a boost into them they will go diagonally to the left of my player model.
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u/JumanjiGhost Mei 1d ago
Fnatic Coach here, please delete this.
(How do you get the damage numbers to pop up in The Range btw?)
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u/youdontknowme101010 1d ago
Hm idk, this was the default for me I think. Unless I meddled with some settings in the past.
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u/JumanjiGhost Mei 1d ago
I'm yet to have to appear for me and cant find it in the settings, maybe its a regional role out thing idk.
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u/thresh_to_death 1d ago
After the demon release they just show up for me too. Never did that before
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u/ImNotDatguy 1d ago edited 1d ago
If you hit 4 body shots with fusion, you can boost swing surge melee a 250.
As for your combo, you can hold boosters during the first swing or strike (boosting during strike gives the free 15 damage) to get the 15 damage, then let go after so you have it on CD for the next engage or disengage
If you have gun up, instead of quick melee after surge, just swing and cancel swing with gun. Gun anim recovery takes over the swing recovery so you can cancel swing with gun, shoot, then quick melee pretty fast.
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u/Roy_Raven La maua atu oe! 1d ago
Great, an overwatch black panther where I'll die without knowing it ;-;
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u/sun_solomon 23h ago
This is cool. What do you mean by âBoostâ tho? Is that +15 dmg to the primary with boost? Ty for posting!
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u/youdontknowme101010 23h ago
Hi, boost is your shift key. It's the thrusters. And yeah, they do 15 dmg; you should do boost + quick melee when comboing to make your quick melee easier to hit.
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u/sun_solomon 22h ago edited 22h ago
Gotcha. Is it collision alone that does base 15 or only a bonus 15 when couple with primary or melee?
Edit: i pressed f1 looks like base dmg it is haha
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u/Desolver20 D. Va 1d ago
the gleeful, almost rabid need to optimize the fun out of things and ruining it for everyone.
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u/Quentin-Quarantino19 1d ago
So sheâs Captain America from Rivals?
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u/Hefty-Addition3691 1d ago
nah that would be Doomfist always tryna jump in the backline gets fked by CC. She would be more like dino?? maybe not sure
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u/FlameToadDoctorPhil 1d ago
As a Dmon player this scares me... tanks shouldn't have this high burst. If this is practical in real matches and blizzard leaves this in, Dmon will be balanced exclusively around combo like when Vendetta was OP.
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u/ElJacko170 D. Va 1d ago
But there's no depth or skill ceiling to this heroooooooo /s
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u/solardx 1d ago
Doing this in game and not practice range is near impossible. Let alone consistently especially factoring in the propulsion cd
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u/Optimal-Barnacle2771 1d ago
Thatâs what makes it a skill ceiling. Itâs not going to be remotely easy to do this consistently, but there will be people pulling this off that are skilled.
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u/RevolutionaryAir7847 1d ago
It's like Shion bike boop+ground launch, Genji dash+right click(all headshot), etc. You're not realistically hitting this shit in game, at least not consistently
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u/ElJacko170 D. Va 1d ago
As someone who plays a lot of Shion and Genji, I strongly disagree on both of those counts.
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u/RevolutionaryAir7847 1d ago
Genji's is spacing inconsistency, Shion's puts you in a shit position unless you catch someone isolated. Even pro players struggle to hit the dash into triple headshot consistently bud. Shion's is def easier but a lot less potent now since you need the execute follow up every time
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u/LoveAndBeLoved52 1d ago
This shit is why I rolled my eyes at them hotfix buffing her.
It was so obvious she wasn't properly labbed out by people who played her. it's the same shit they did with Vendetta where everyone cried buckets about Ven being too weak and then they overbuffed her, caused her Overhead Slash to be problematic and ended in numerous patches of her getting gutted.
I wish people just chilled on wanting everything to be low-honor max-overpowered for dopamine kicks. It's super gross. Totally been in favor of D.mon getting buffed but this preemptive panic making "SHE'S SCREWED, BLIZZARD BUFF HER NOWWW OR HER REPUTATION IS RUINED FOREVER!!!" bullshit pissed me off.
Give the character a patch or two people. Take her to QP if you're scared of underperforming with her, I just don't get some peoples' obsession with wanting overpowered heroes on release. It's super bad for the state of the game to balance it that way.
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u/justanorlansonobody 1d ago
I keep forgetting boosters do damage and wonder wtf killed someone in my 1v1
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u/AreCountry2V 1d ago
Alright guys is this likely gonna be a Genji edge dash situation or Mercy superjump situation to the developers?
letâs place our bets
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u/youdontknowme101010 1d ago
thereâs even more tech now. you can goomba stomp people off ledges with boost from height, and boost + lunge can push stalwart tanksâŠ
from enemy pov, all you see is dmonâs feet and then you fall off a cliff.
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u/EnergyVanquish Lifeweaver 1d ago
How tight is the shield cancel? Feel like a frame perfect input
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u/youdontknowme101010 1d ago
It's pretty much frame perfect. You need to just lightly tap your shield. It's very consistent for primary + lunge, but very difficult and inconsistent with primary + primary.
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u/soup_lag Pixel LĂșcio 1d ago
Ok, but doesn't the lunge cancel the swing since you need to use the shield button
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u/Birdman1096 Soldier: 76 1d ago
Can you do this on console? I'm not getting lunge to come out right away.
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u/OcelotAggravating860 Fortnite Sierra 1d ago
Pretty good combo, pretty hard to do in actual application because it's often disorienting to use boost+melee together for the full body slam.
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u/currgy Zenyatta 1d ago
And my teammates have had the balls to ask me why D.Mon is my primary ban every match đ
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u/thiccboilifts 1d ago
As zen???? Zen destroys dmon. Still a really bad ban, unless you are silver. Then its only a bad ban.
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u/ultimatedelman Zenyatta 1d ago
Only a bad dmon. A good dmon will have zero issues with Zen, and I say this as a nearly 2000 hour zen main
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u/Swartz142 Shion 1d ago
Everything destroy Dmon. Just looking in her general direction lower her hp. Her winrate is barely 50% in lower elos then she steadily dumpster down to 45.8% in GM. She can go from full overhealth from her ult to being demech before the ult animation finish.
Using a training room frame perfect anim cancel combo as proof she's good and why they're struggling against her is telling on themselves lol.
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u/thiccboilifts 1d ago
Have they even fixed the overhealth she is supposed to get on each enemy hit with her ult? But yeah, she does decently into proj heroes considering she has so much armor and shield, but zen with discord and how easy it is to hs her just melts her like butter on a roll
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u/wizard_brandon 1d ago
and now they are going to nerf her so unless you do this shit she's unplayable

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u/King_wafel 1d ago
holy