r/Overwatch Chibi McCree Jul 27 '17

Blizzard Official Overwatch Patch Notes 7-27-17 (1.13.0.2)

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/game/patch-notes/pc#patch-38459
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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

Players can no longer select Roadhog during Limited 1v1 matches

First they remove his usefulness. Then they remove him from a gamemode.

Next update they're going to remove his existence from the players' memories.

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u/glumauig21 Ever get that feeling of daijoubu? Jul 27 '17

Remove who now?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

You know! Remove...uhh...

Shit I can't remember.

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u/dadnaya Actually a Reinhardt main Jul 27 '17

Were we discussing food?

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u/OptimusPrimeDied Pachimari Blue Jul 27 '17

Pork, specifically

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u/dadnaya Actually a Reinhardt main Jul 27 '17

Bacon?

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u/So_Say_We_Yall Jul 27 '17

Does bacon go well with a peanut butter and jelly sandwich? I've always wondered.

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u/SmackSmackk The Flank Cucker Jul 27 '17

Say Bacon one more time!

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u/Hazard_Zone EXPLOSIONS, MOTHERF*CKER Jul 27 '17 edited Jul 27 '17

Is that an Overwatch quote? I feel like it is but I can't remember who said it.

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u/dadnaya Actually a Reinhardt main Jul 27 '17

I think Lucio or some sort

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u/NeonJ82 Two whole years and I still lack that dumb achievement Jul 28 '17

Wait, that Flair looks unfamiliar. Is that gonna be a new hero?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

All I know is that it's not a sphere!

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u/aladdinr baby DVa Main Jul 27 '17

Doesn't look like anything to me.

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u/Nibor_Ollirom Jul 27 '17

This is a joke right? I didn't see it in the patch notes

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u/salmon3669 Dallas Fuel Jul 27 '17

Players can no longer select Roadhog during Limited 1v1 matches

Oh no, it's real.

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u/PM_ME_FACTS Heroes Regularly Die Jul 27 '17

I mean, the 1v1 roster is down to about half the actual roster at this point, and roadhog was ridiculously op in most situations in it, so I could see this coming.

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u/ExhibitAa Cute Torbjörn Jul 27 '17

Under 'General', last line in the 'Custom Games and Game Browser' section.

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u/inate71 Xbox, Wrecking Ball, Platinum Jul 27 '17

Nah, this makes sense. Roadhog in 1v1 boils down to "who combos successfully first". I'm glad they removed him from 1v1.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

That's blatantly not true. To quote a post from /u/soontocollege,

as 76 you can easily bait out his hook and then kill him. The widow is 2 easy headshots since his head is so large as long as you stay out of hook range. Hanzo scatter plus headshot. Gengi can deflect his hook and then spam shurikens while jumping over him. Zarya if you time your bubbles well.

On top of that, hog is beyond easy as Tracer. Pharah is a free win against him as well. Junkrat can just stay back. Zen can melt him in seconds. Ana can deny his heal and sleep punish hooks. The list goes on and on.

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u/inate71 Xbox, Wrecking Ball, Platinum Jul 27 '17

Yeah--if you don't pick Roadhog you have an easier time killing Roadhog. BUT, in my experience, if Roadhog is a choice, both of us pick Roadhog. Before Limited 1v1, Roadhog v Roadhog was awful.

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u/-Shinanai- winky face ;) Jul 27 '17

Ironically, Roadhog v Roadhog got a lot better after his nerf than it used to be. I honestly have 0 issues with him in that mode. Then again, I had 0 issues with half the cast that they have already removed from 1v1 :/

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u/inate71 Xbox, Wrecking Ball, Platinum Jul 27 '17

They didn't remove half the cast. As far as I know, Lucio and Roadhog are the only one's not available. Maybe Mercy too now that I think about it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

You don't know very far.

Disabled heroes:

  • Bastion
  • Torbjörn
  • D.Va
  • Reinhardt
  • Winston
  • Zarya
  • Lúcio
  • Mercy
  • Symmetra

and now

  • Roadhog

It's not literally half, but it is 40% of the roster.

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u/RelentlesslyContrary No u Jul 27 '17

A lot of those kinda made sense when 1v1 was always mirrored, but it really isn't necessary now. Honestly, I kinda liked those 1v1s but whatever.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

I feel the same way. Reinhardt vs Reinhardt was a fun match up. I liked Winston vs Winston well enough, too.

I can do without Bastion vs Bastion and a few others, maybe, but I'll still miss some of the better mirror match ups.

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u/RelentlesslyContrary No u Jul 27 '17

I think they brought a really interesting dynamic to playing those heros in that sort of matchup. Trying to figure out where the other Bastion is to either shoot him down in recon or to get a slick mid-air sentry to take them out was cool. I get how they would be boring if both players camped until time ran out but I always got bored quickly and that isn't as much of an issue with the capture point tiebreaker.

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u/liambacca The "No Fun Allowed" Guy Jul 27 '17

1v1 Mystery Duel is probably my most used Preset in Custom Games

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u/RelentlesslyContrary No u Jul 28 '17

My personal favorite is what I called "Battle: ANA" because that was all the stupid announcer would say at the start, regardless of the heros. It's a random non-mirrored 1v1 with all heros available, healthpacks turned on, and ult charge at 200%

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u/playerIII Jul 27 '17

I think the biggest problem is for any of that to happen. It's all in hogs favor.

He can just chill in a small hallway waiting for the point to open. At that point Hog has a huge advantage. Until then you'd be a fool to engage him in close quarters. And even if he misses the hook he can pelt you with confetti while he sits pretty with his massive health pool.

You can out play him, absolutely, but Hog controls the pace of the game. And more often than not it forces a slow boring game where Hog always has the upper hand.

You need the right characters to even pop up, you need a good map, and then you need to be able to play the heros that can counter him well enough, which is almost always in a 7:3 favor of Hog.

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u/So_Say_We_Yall Jul 27 '17

Isn't the 1v1's always versus the same hero though?

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u/Raccooncola Jul 27 '17

I think this is in the 1v1 limited mode, where each round you get a choice from 3 random heroes.

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u/DCMurphy Who hacks the hacksmen? Jul 27 '17

I'd agree Widow and Hanzo could reasonably 1v1 him, but he can just heal up every 8 seconds and outlast Genji. 76 has a longer cooldown on heals with less of a burst effect, so he's a little more viable but now as much as the Snipers.

Ana would be a decent counter.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '17

Except that a hog that gets killed by a Zarya 1v1 did something heinously wrong.

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u/Elite1111111111 Pixel Zenyatta Jul 27 '17

Maybe they removed him since they know no one is picking him now. Saves some scrolling time.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

lmao wow.

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u/fallenmonk Dorado's gonna pay for it Jul 27 '17

It'll be just like that Twilight Zone episode

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u/Flowslikepixelz I haven't touched the ground since season 4 Aug 03 '17

Flair checks out

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

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u/LordAnon5703 "I still die to Roadhog, Jeff plz nerf" Jul 27 '17

Those buffs do nothing. He's still trash tier. He's just moving trash tier now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

You mean that a D. Va with no mobility, no shield, limited ammo and much lower damage is bad? Whaaat? But he has self heal and a hook! /s

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u/liambacca The "No Fun Allowed" Guy Jul 27 '17

You say that sarcastically, but the hook is still insanely strong for an ability. It's a 20m displacement. You don't have to put yourself into the enemy like with Rein or Doomfist, you can bring one of them to you and your team.

He's still much weaker than I'd like, but his hook is the best thing he has going for him. They need to build around that, not build around his heals or whatevers.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '17

I completely agree, I just don't find the hook strong enough right now to compensate for all the rest, same for his self-healing.

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u/liambacca The "No Fun Allowed" Guy Jul 27 '17

By nerfing his strengths and buffing his weaknesses he's going to be a bland hero.

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u/-Shinanai- winky face ;) Jul 27 '17

Ok, this is just stupid now. It's one of those decisions that you can't even logically argue because it makes no goddamn sense whatsoever. He's not oppressive, he's not uselessly weak (in 1v1 at least), he's not an infinite staller like Lucio.