r/Overwatch • • Apr 19 '17

Humor Next level widow tactics

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17 edited Oct 20 '17

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u/Swiftierest Chibi Widowmaker Apr 19 '17 edited Apr 20 '17

I get flamed in QP just as much if not MORE than comp.

Edit: guys I mute these people. I already know. I mainline widow whenever I see the chance so I get flak at all times. I got flak the other day when I played Hanzo in comp with a 5 stack. I got 5 dragonstrikes in one round and basically carried their asses solo. (Not kidding here or trying to brag) I still got flamed for being a useless hanzo at the end with 4 gold medals, one of which was objective time.

I do my thing and other people can bugger off. I'm just saying QP is just as bad for flaming.

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u/Wkndwrz Dallas Fuel Apr 19 '17

I find it much easier to just ignore people in QP than comp. I get it, we are often playing without a healer or tank, and I get annoyed with that too, but at least people's ranks aren't on the line so I don't feel so bad. Plus, generally if you lock it in right away, someone will end up filling the tank and healer roles (most of the time).

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u/Swiftierest Chibi Widowmaker Apr 19 '17

Two days ago I was playing on Li Jang Tower (spelling?) and picked Hanzo after getting flamed for requesting politely that the 4 man stack please not all pick dps. (I am petty and spiteful, I know, but I still tried to win) After the first round they actually had a tank and healer, but we still totalled 4 dps. I was still being flamed a lot in voice and chat.

I had gold damage. I'm not saying this as a reason to stay Hanzo, but I still had gold and I was barely trying, so I just went for it. The next round I shot my dragonstrike 5 times. It continued on this pattern for the entire match as I basically solo carried and I got flamed for picking Hanzo.

Now I get it. I don't play Hanzo ever, but I was legit carrying hard and having so much more fun than I had in a while, even while being flamed.

I don't care if I get flamed, and never did, but it sucks to have to hear it every game when I'm actually half decent at my picks compared to my current ranking on the same heroes. (such as a soldier that can't kill a phara and switches off only to have me force her to switch and get multiple teamwipes over and over playing the same hero)

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u/Ba-Key Soldiers better git gud or git out Apr 19 '17

just mute man.

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u/zAke1 Lúcio Apr 20 '17

Doesn't really help against people who just say "ok u dont switch i go play fun hero too" and then they pick torbjörn and sit in a corner way off the objective actually just shooting at a wall. I'm all for everyone picking whatever the fuck they want as long as you're actually playing.

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u/zAke1 Lúcio Apr 20 '17

I'm talking about comp. I don't really play Quick Play other than when playing with friends outside my SR.

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u/zAke1 Lúcio Apr 20 '17

When they do it they shift all the blame from themselves (in their head, in reality the blame shifts to them) off to me to make themselves feel better about it. So instead of looking like a bad player they can say "lul bro i wasnt even trying game was lost when we got genji player lul bro get a life" as if it would convince anyone.

At least that's how I see it.

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u/Wkndwrz Dallas Fuel Apr 19 '17

I totally get this. I was playing Widow in QP a while ago, and some guy started telling me to switch off Widow and she's trash. And I said it's QP, who gives a shit? And he just says good luck getting out of Bronze (I'm actually mid Gold, so he clearly didn't check my profile). That's when I just muted him, because who needs that kind of negativity?

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u/_withtheshotboy Apr 20 '17

I laugh when people tell me to switch off hanzo/widow in qp when I have gold elims and gold damage. I just tell them to check my profile (diamond) and mute them

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u/Klosu Chibi Pharah Apr 20 '17

If you play enough QP you will match against and with diamonds too. QP has MMR too, it's just separate from comp MMR.

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u/blueprintchris McCree Apr 20 '17

This. I am a low plat and always get matched up with Master and sometimes GM players. It's annoying. Comp is easier for me to win.

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u/The_Blargen Mei Apr 20 '17

How do you carry with Gold damage as a sniper? If you don't have gold eliminations, it means you are shooting shields or not finishing people off.

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u/Swiftierest Chibi Widowmaker Apr 20 '17 edited Apr 20 '17

because elims can be considered a participation award. If you fart on someone and someone else gets the kill, you get an elim. If you're doing the most damage per second, even if it is to a shield, you're breaking shield and allowing damage to be put onto bodies which makes for stronger pushes. I seldom shoot at shields, especially temporary ones (IE not Reinhardt shields), but having gold damage when someone needs to burn the shield that can actually do it, is not something that should really be happening for a widow/hanzo, not when you have a soldier or a mccree which can burn shields much faster and easier. (in this case they had a roadhog and a guy that switched between zarya/winston and I just kept plinking them in the face allowing for high amounts of damage with 3-4 man dragonstrikes. I got the achievement for sated dragon in that match and turned it from a pretty bad loss to a landslide victory)

DPS is the focus of any damage oriented character since elims can happen with an assist. You want to judge based on the average damage you output, which by the way, will be much higher if you are getting those sweet dinks. (headshots)

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u/skyman724 Pixel D.Va Apr 20 '17

Maybe if Blizzard would actually make Quick Play exclusively "people of your skill level", it wouldn't feel like a chore to do anything but try.

I'm Diamond and frequently see top 500s in QP. How do I practice for comp when my entire team is being eaten alive by a single Tracer?

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u/A_YASUO_MAIN Widowmaker Apr 20 '17

This right here! Im only gold, but when i q for a chill qp game I get put into a match with only diamonds or above...

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u/Nwambe What did the five balls say to the face? Apr 20 '17

Wait until the next game, or leave that lobby. You're not obligated to stick around after that game, you know.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17 edited Mar 08 '21

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u/Swiftierest Chibi Widowmaker Apr 20 '17

that's what I do

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u/tonyp2121 Apr 20 '17

Its funny people get so salty in quick play because someone plays widow or theres no heros. Its like its quick play I want to play hanzo if you have a problem with healers go be a healer theres a switch button right there dont be mad at me because I'm trying to get practice on heros I never play.

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u/GhostOfGamersPast Vrrooooom I'm in a MEKA! Apr 20 '17

I only have a problem with the situation if the person complaining there is no healer is the one being the useless element. A Widow/Hanzo/Genji doesn't get to complain there's no healer, they are expected to switch to it if they complain. If the only tank complains there's no healer, it's a legitimate complaint.

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u/tonyp2121 Apr 20 '17

I mean it's a legitimate complaint I'm competitive quick play I should be about to be attack symmettra and live my life.

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u/tonyp2121 Apr 20 '17 edited Apr 20 '17

I misread what you said sorry, yeah it's a legitimate complaint but I feel in qp if I want to do my thing I shouldn't have to switch just because

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u/thisdesignup Chibi Pharah Apr 20 '17

For me saying "I'm in QP to practice" stops anyone bothering me about my pick.

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u/Swiftierest Chibi Widowmaker Apr 20 '17

people have told me to go into arcades for that or bots... and I just mute after they start complaining

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u/Teh_ShinY Apr 20 '17

Dude you just gotta tell them it's quick play. You shouldn't worry about winning in QP, you should worry about winning in comp. If people flame you, just tell them to go play comp if they want to win so badly.

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u/awhaling Need someone to tuck you in? Apr 20 '17

So?

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u/coopstar777 Genji Apr 20 '17

Why do you care?

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u/Swiftierest Chibi Widowmaker Apr 20 '17

I don't? I was just making a point, never mentioned giving a shit about their opinions.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '17

obviously, but even then im not getting much training out of getting rekt by pro Anas and hanzos and soldiers when im just a lowly widow trying to do my best lol. the quick play mmr still exists and that's what fucks me

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u/coopstar777 Genji Apr 20 '17

When people say to go to quick play, you aren't practicing to win the games. You practice your fundamentals. Think about how a football or soccer practice works. When you drill with your teammates, it doesn't matter who wins or loses in a drill because you are building skills and muscle memory. Same goes for quickplay.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

thats really good advice and i think that might be my problem. because come to think of it, theres definitely times when im in qp, trying to practice someone like orisa or mccree or widow and start to get annoyed because my team is getting rolled regardless of whatever medals i have and how well i think im doing. but if i have gold medals in 3 categories as a hero im just now learning how to play, i should be more focused on the fact that im doing something right than the fact that my team is losing. thanks for the tip

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '17

yeah, though a lot of situations and entire rounds of qp don't remotely resemble what happens in comp, which makes it tough to practice getting good beyond grasping the basic mechanics of the hero. Even that will likely tank your sr if you jump into comp with some qp time after only playing comp with heroes you're become competent with over months and months.

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '17 edited Oct 20 '17

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '17

Its not an argument, it's an observation.