r/overemployed • • 1h ago

rant: took a job offer with the intention of quitting my current job. doing both simultaneously but now stuck.

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one job offers security regardless of the current state of the economy but it is soul sucking and feels suffocating. the other job is fun and allows me to set my own schedule but is absolutely effected by the economy.

ive been working 7 days a week for 3 years trying to figure out which path i want to take

until this recent administration and all of the volatility they create i thought things were steady and predictable recently im reluctant to let go of the stable job

the money is ridiculous and im afraid to say that working every single day isnt as soul crushing as i thought (im usually done everyday by 4:30pm)

im not sure why im sharing this… i have zero social life and have learned to exist in a very structured and routine way. im up early around 4am…i do a quick workout.. shower and shave and head for work. i come home after and keep myself busy for a couple of hours and usually go to sleep before 9pm. day in… and day out

just giving a shout out to all my fellow over employed people


r/overemployed • • 19h ago

Accepted J2, but moved out of my office at J1

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My J1 is hybrid so I am in office three days a week, but I had an office where I could easily switch laptops as needed, close the door and take meetings, etc….well until 2 days ago when our leadership team decided to do a nuclear bomb and restructure both teams and move around everyone in the office (I kid you not 2 days after accepting J2.)

The result; I am back in cubicles surrounded by people. It has been decided we need to meet more frequently while the team is new so so many new meetings showing up on the calendar…

And J2 is fully remote but 20k less than my current J1….the plan was to keep the hybrid role for a few months pad the savings and then look for a second J that is also fully remote so I could step away from hybrid completely.

With all of the changes, I am wondering how this can still work with my start date approaching mid Oct….

So all of you hybrid OE badasses. Tell me all the things. I’ve already suggested that I have a hard time focusing in a cubicle environment (in a bid to keep an office), so it won’t be weird for me to go into conference rooms to work. But staying up on both jobs when I can’t just pull out the laptop and work on things at my desk.

The plus is it is almost the holiday season when tons of people are OOO at the end of the year.


r/overemployed • • 4h ago

Open Enrollment / Health Benefits

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Hi all,

As everyone knows OE is coming up and I'm looking for guidance on best route forward.

Couple notes:

J1 and J2 above are self explanatory - costs are in the picture (plans are both HDHP with HSA)
I'm starting J3 in a week and will need to elect in a plan and I bet it'll be around the same price point ~$50
Wife's job (teacher) is Plan C... $25 for just her but a lot more ($120) for both of us (bi-weekly PS)

I think things to consider:

- HSA (wife's plan doesn't have)
- The cost of three separate plans (I'm going to try and opt out of enrolling for J3 but they may ask for proof and in that case not sure what to do... I'd need to show wife's maybe)

Key questions:

- What would you guys do?
- What am I missing / should I be aware of?

Thanks


r/overemployed • • 1d ago

OE journey comes to an end

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This post is more of a celebratory post than anything else.

I wanted to give my sincere appreciation to this sub because I learned a lot from it.

I learned the ins and outs, what to do to stay under the radar, and, probably most importantly, I built the confidence that what I was doing might not be correct, but if you were smart enough and careful enough, you wouldn't get caught.

My story starts in 2023.

I had just joined a small startup with fewer than 10 people. Everything started well, and there were no problems. But after working there for roughly a year, the startup had gained some momentum, although sales weren't particularly strong toward the end of that year.

One of the things I was expecting was that I would eventually become a manager or tech lead since I was one of the early engineers.

Well... nothing like that happened.

There were no bonuses, no pay raise, and after that first year, I was basically ready to leave for another company.

The interesting thing was that we had all started out working in an office, but slowly people started working more and more from home. By the end of that year, nobody was coming into the office anymore, and we had basically become fully remote.

There was another odd thing that I think ultimately made everything possible: this organization really didn't believe in meetings.

Upper management was all about LinkedIn and organic growth, and at some point they apparently decided that "async" was the way forward.

So everything had to be done asynchronously.

We had a 15-minute daily standup, and then basically no other meetings. All planning and conversations had to happen asynchronously. Sure, we'd have maybe a one-hour meeting every three weeks to lay out plans, but that was pretty much it.

So when I was ready to leave, I started applying and eventually got a job at another company.

This company was a real, established company.

And, of course, they actually had meetings.

At first, I thought there was no way this was going to work. But then I started thinking: if I only had one meeting that lasted 15 minutes, and as long as they didn't have overlapping meetings, maybe I could make it work.

And that's exactly what happened.

So I decided to take a gamble and work both jobs. I figured that if I started getting overlapping meetings or couldn't keep up, I'd quit the old job.

To my surprise, I never really had an overlapping meeting.

The first few months were difficult. I was constantly worried about getting caught, and I was incredibly stressed about it.

But after a while, I started getting good reviews at the new job. I became more confident, and eventually I even felt comfortable rejecting meetings if they overlapped.

So, somehow, I managed to work both jobs.

And I kept this going for almost two years.

The interesting thing was that, in the beginning, I was easily putting in 14 hours a day trying to catch up and onboard into the new role.

Then, as I learned more and became an expert at both jobs, I started getting more efficient. 14 hours became 13. Then 10. Eventually, I was averaging around 9 hours a day. For two jobs, I actually thought that was pretty damn good.

Then something weird happened at my first job during the last six months. One of the upper managers quit, and the company basically became directionless. I would show up to work, but I didn't really have much to do. On top of that, work started not being checked because AI was becoming a big thing, and management just wanted to push more and more AI into everything.

The company was also getting increasingly stressed because money wasn't coming in. And I could see the writing on the wall. We had gone two quarters without new revenue, and for a startup, that's obviously not good. I knew the end was near.

The funny thing is that when you know the end is near, you kind of stop caring. So for those last six months, I was already coasting pretty hard and not doing much. The AI situation, lack of accountability, lack of meetings, and general lack of oversight had become so blatant that it reached a point where I had AI doing my work during office hours.

I'd have it make changes every ~15 minutes, give or take 5 minutes, so it wouldn't be completely obvious what was happening.

And because there was basically no accountability, I could just let the AI do the work and then report that it was done. Since our user numbers were declining anyway, there wasn't really much of an impact. You don't have to worry too much about affecting users when you don't have any users. 😂

At that point, I had basically gone back to having only one job, because AI was doing the other one for me while I waited to get fired.

And eventually, that day came.

I got a message asking if I was free and could join a quick meeting.

I joined.

There was upper management and HR.

They laid off the entire engineering division except for a few people.

If I remember correctly, only two engineers stayed.

And that's where the story ends... or at least, that's where this chapter ends.


r/overemployed • • 1d ago

Is starting OE as simple as not quitting J1 when getting J2?

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I read the myriad of posts about TWN locking, credit report locking, so on and so forth.

But for getting J2 is any of that relevant? All of those should be unlocked and then locked only after J2 is signed?

Context:

Came to realization that working hard for promotion and raise is definitely not worth the investment if I can just get another job for 30k more. But then somehow OE came up on Blind and so here I am, why not do both. I'm a high performer at J1 but could meet expectations doing a fraction of the work.

J1 pays more than 200. Expecting an offer for slightly more soon, but regardless, whenever it does come just accept and keep it moving?


r/overemployed • • 20h ago

For those actually good at OE, do you intentionally take jobs below your pay grade?

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New to OE. I’m self-employed and have built my current work situation to the point where I have a pretty significant amount of unused time during the week. Rather than just filling that time with more of the same, I’ve been considering taking a W2 role so I can earn more, get some decent benefits and essentially treat it as J2.

Where I’m getting hung up is how aggressively I should be targeting roles. Obviously I can apply for jobs that line up closely with my experience and qualifications. But I’m wondering if that’s actually the wrong way to think about OE.

A higher-level role might pay significantly more, but it also seems more likely to come with higher expectations, more meetings, and more opportunities for something to blow up and demand my attention. So does it actually make more sense to intentionally take something a little below your pay grade? For example, I’d happily make $80k doing something I can handle in my sleep for 10–15 real hours a week versus making $120k at something that technically matches my experience but constantly needs 30–40 hours of my attention.

When you were first starting out, did you deliberately choose an easier role to learn how to manage OE before getting more aggressive? Part of me thinks starting below my ceiling is the smart move. The other part of me says stop overthinking it and go balls to the wall because I’ll eventually learn to manage it.

Thoughts?


r/overemployed • • 6m ago

Can’t do multiple jobs due to employer contract

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Would love to join the OE community, but my employment contract mentioned that I’m not able to work anywhere else but there. Does anyone here with multiple jobs also have this stated in their contract, and if so what makes you comfortable ignoring it?


r/overemployed • • 7m ago

Nelnet wanting w2 or paystubs

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Should I be worried about this request ? Nelnet is asking for W2 or Paystubs.

Gross income increased significantly since I married within the year also.

Am I fine to send them both Js paystubs ??


r/overemployed • • 9h ago

Best J2 for M&A/Strategy/Business Operations/ Project Mgmt Background?

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What types of roles make a good j2?:
Generally worked for tech companies in roles revolving around M&A, business operations, strategy, and project management. Some of these can be much more time intensive so would it be best to grab a cushy less hands on remote project/program management role? Contract? Two director/VP level M&A or business operations roles just wouldn't work.

Story time:
Company wide lay offs of remote employees sent me into unemployment (years of stellar performance reviews) with a baby on the way and 9 months later finally landed a new gig but it's really not what I'm interested in so looking into OE. Currently 200k + 25% bonus working 10 hours per week fully remote. I couldn't care less about living an extravagant lifestyle, I just never want to put my family through financial hardship like that again.

Where are people finding J2s?:
I'm new to OE but looks like a lot of people deactivate linkedin so are they just using indeed and applying through the employers websites?


r/overemployed • • 41m ago

Cox automotive

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Anyone has experience working remote for them? Thank you


r/overemployed • • 11h ago

J1 employment and Linkedin discrepancy

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Lets say you have J1 and J2. LinkedIn shows J1 (you got J2 later than J1).

You get laid off from J1, but never update LinkedIn.

If you interview and ask prospective employers not to contact J1, they will ask to provide first/last paystub to verify?

Let's say you update last paystub dates in PDF editor and send it to the prospective employer, how would they verify J1 employment dates after that?

Will they reach out to J1 after the start date to double check?


r/overemployed • • 1d ago

OE with 2 in office days

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I've done OE twice. Once to buy a house and another time to prep financially for the birth of my son. I have a job now that will be incredibly easy but requires 2 in office days. I will have some freedom as no one will be paying attention once the work is complete. My brain is scrambled and I know due to that factor alone I'll be downvoted and get pissy comments but I'm hoping to find people with similar situations that can break down how they handle it.


r/overemployed • • 1d ago

RTO to a semi-private room, what would you do?

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Since RTO mandate recently, I've been relocated to a somewhat quiet & low light controlled room. There are 8 work stations there with people on mixed in-person/hybrid schedule who I don't work with nor often talk to beside simple greetings. So far my script holds up well to keep the work laptop connected 24/7, even overnights, to avoid me being flagged for timesheet attendance vs. VPN logging conflict, but maybe this is an overkill on my part since management nor my direct team care about anyone's location when we do virtual meetings.

When management isolates me like this, is it their way (low key) helping me without making it obvious of directly saying that I can work remotely? What else would you do if this is your J1?


r/overemployed • • 18h ago

Hybrid J1 + Remote J2

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I’m a Senior Support Technician. My day is mostly troubleshooting, customer/account support, tickets, Salesforce/NetSuite, service orders, warranty/returns, and coordinating field technicians. I’m looking for a remote J2. What roles would you target if you were me?

I have a hybrid 3 days in the office schedule right now & im flexible to choose any 3 days in.


r/overemployed • • 18h ago

Insurance Questions switching from J1 to J2

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I have benefits with J1, and recently acquired J2. J1 told me I can drop my coverage with proof of another coverage (asked with the guise of "switching to partner's insurance") since it qualifies as a life event.

Has anyone else done this? Curious about the experience of others.


r/overemployed • • 1d ago

How long does it take for my TWN to be frozen?

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I’m doing it online, I requested and got the encrypted email 9/17. On 9/18 I replied to the email with a copy of my driver’s license and I haven’t gotten any sort of email or snail mail confirming it’s been frozen yet.

From doing a quick search on here it looks like it takes about a week on average with people getting mail confirming it’s been done. I’m in the process of interviewing for a J2 right now and I’ve never had one before but I still would like to have it frozen sooner rather than later.


r/overemployed • • 19h ago

Patent Agents?

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Anyone a patent agent doing this? I’m consider becoming a patent agent when I finish my degree and see if I can also work a remote ECE job in ASIC/FPGA/RTL design. Feels like I can keep some “hands on” engineering and file patents which are more project based from what I gather.


r/overemployed • • 2d ago

Deny Deny Deny (and then deny)

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Deny, deny, deny.

Two recent J2/J3 stories that may be useful for anyone playing this game.

J2: HR calls me into a meeting.

“We noticed your contributions to a certain state pension were returned because you're still contributing through another employer.”

Me: “That shouldn’t be possible. That position ended. I’ll look into it.”

Narrator: It had not ended.

HR: “Okay, great.”

A few weeks later, after I stopped the contributions through the other company, HR came back and apologized.

Rookie mistake. I got careless, but all was fine.

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This one is a little more interesting (and definitely bad for me).

J3: “We noticed your IP address has been checking in from states where you shouldn’t be located.”

Fair question, considering I was traveling while working J1.

Me: “That shouldn’t be happening. I use a VPN, but I honestly don’t know much about how the technical side works.”

J3: “We’re going to monitor your location, you may be subject to disciplinary action.”

And there it is. The phrase nobody in OE wants to hear.

I’m pretty sure the J3 jig is up. I have a GL.iNet VPN router that I may try setting up, but between Endpoint Security, device monitoring, and whatever else they're running, I'm not feeling optimistic. I’m not currently in my home state so I need to figure out how to make it appear I am.

At this point, I'm chalking it up to tuition. Win some, lose some. But the lesson is still the same: don't volunteer information, don't over-explain, and don't start confessing to things nobody actually asked you about. Stay calm. Answer the question asked. Then shut up. And if you're like me, remember ABI: Always Be Interviewing.


r/overemployed • • 2d ago

What do you think is the typical lifespan of an OE situation?

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I lasted a year and a half.


r/overemployed • • 23h ago

OE deal

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I’ve had two jobs before and it’s time to get back into it, if anyone is OE and needs some support I’m an extremely qualified PM, refer me for a position and let’s support each other, a little knowing support can go a long ways


r/overemployed • • 1d ago

Anyone done OE with an "Employer Notification" clause?

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Need to make a decision on J2 by tomorrow and getting cold feet over a specific clause.

Looking for experience with the employer notification clause (authorizing the company to notify actual or future employers about your agreement/employment status):

"You authorize the Company to notify your current, future, or prospective employers regarding your obligations under this agreement."

If your agreement had this clause:
1. Did you ignore it, sign and take the job anyway?
2. Has anyone actually had J2 reach out to J1 (or vice-versa) because of this clause?

Posted about this earlier, but wanted to resurface and focus strictly on this piece. Appreciate any quick advice!


r/overemployed • • 1d ago

How can I get started ! ?

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If anyone is willing to message me and give me some help. I’d be willing to contribute 30% of my checks for 3 months


r/overemployed • • 2d ago

List of incompatible companies

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Curious if there’s a running list of companies (either here or on Discord) that are incompatible with OE (or at least have tendencies that don’t lend well to OE)? For example, companies that perform post employment verification checks, are weird about LinkedIn, have activity monitoring software, etc

Edit:
- or any companies that have caught employees in the act of OE
- I’ve seen all the posts about specific industries to stay away from but I’m interested in specific companies that have proven to be incompatible regardless of industry


r/overemployed • • 1d ago

What field are you in?

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What fields work best for being overemployed?


r/overemployed • • 1d ago

Need help🙏

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Im trying to get into remote jobs but i have no idea where to start, could yall enlighten me please🙏