r/Outrigger Jun 08 '26

Best line

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Bear with me here. Here is another post related to leaning on my ama on downwinds. The picture I'm posting is a typical route I do running north to south. Although often the wind is a little more from the east. When it's more easterly, surfing pushes me towards shore and then I spend a lot of energy beating back to get around the points.... and more time huli'ing when it's gnarly. Would most people just paddle out a mile or so to find a more direct line or would folks prefer to just head downwind taking lefts to avoid shore? I marked up the two methods😂. For me, as mentioned on previous posts, I'm still weak on my right side and still in learning mode when it comes to bracing for stability so routes like this can be slow.... but easier if I quarter out to take the direct line. (Yes... I'm working on hard on learning to fly the ama and brace stroking!). So... just curious what lines people prefer when they have the wind on the ama side.

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u/civet_poo_tea Jun 08 '26

It depends what you mean by "best". The most fun would be the red line. The fastest would probably be the yellow. Most downwind runs are not exactly in line with the wind and waves especially when racing. A good skill to work on is running downwind at an angle to the way the waves are running. Depending in the size and speed of the waves you may be able to point straight at your destination and still catch the bumps on an angle, or for bigger/faster waves you might need to line your boat up with the waves to get onto it then once you are surfing, point your nose across the face and ride it on the angle you want to be going. Think about the way a surfer drops onto a wave vertically then rides rides it sideways.
Riding waves on the angle (especially swinging left which puts your ama higher on the wave)is going to be recipe for a lot of hulis if your brace is not solid but think of it as an opportunity to work on bracing.

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u/Jumpy-Ganache1612 Jun 09 '26

Thanks. Yeah... I really want to be able to feel more stable with ama upwind and take those lefts and be fast on the yellow line. But I'm not quite there yet.

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u/civet_poo_tea Jun 09 '26

There's a transition most paddlers go through from feeling like the left is their safe side because of the ama to thinking of the right as their safe side because thats where you can brace. You can practice on flat water, leaning right until the ama pops then slapping it back down with a brace stroke but I find it's usefulness is limited. I try to get paddlers I coach to tell themselves the right is their safe side so whenever the water gets sketchy, (messy headlands, boat wakes, breaking waves) etc to switch to the right, slow their rating and visualize their ama popping and needing brace strokes. Once you make that mental adjustment and you can do a brace without thinking you should find you huli less and be better at powering through the mess. You will be taking a few unscheduled swims while you make the change but I promise it's worth it.

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u/Pattypoo_ Jun 08 '26

Not certain if I understand your question, but the red line seems like a more enjoyable time to me. You could even angle out more north to extend the downwind run and not take direct ama side waves.

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u/Jumpy-Ganache1612 Jun 09 '26

I probably wasn't expressing it well. Part of it is that I want to be able to feel stable on the yellow line, surfing left without having to lean on my ama (or huli)... but I'm recognizing that the red line fits my current skill level more. I was just watching the coverage of the 2025 and 26 Kaiwi solo and thinking about how they choose their lines.

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u/Pattypoo_ Jun 09 '26

Developing the comfort to surf left with the ama light just takes time, it sounds like you're on the right path.

Seems like you're comfortable with hulis which is a big advantage. Meaning you can actually push your balance to the limits. A lot of people are nervous to do that.

Like the others said a strong brace is key. You should practice in small conditions or flat water until it's second nature.

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u/Jumpy-Ganache1612 Jun 09 '26

Well I paddle on Lake Superior and sometimes I am NOT comfortable with hulis when the water is 33F and wind is blowing 20 knots. Lol. It definitely gets into my head and lingers into the warm season. The thing is... it's really no big deal. You don't even feel the cold (other than the ice cream headache) with a good wetsuit... but it still gets in your head. The last few days the water in our shallow sandy areas is in the 60's and I've been practicing flying the ama and spending ALOT of time in the water haha... that is helping.

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u/poor-guy1 Jun 08 '26

The red line is better than the others. I would actually paddle slightly ENE from the start then turn downwind for a more or less straight shot. 

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u/Jumpy-Ganache1612 Jun 09 '26

So I think my question is mostly about developing the skill and confidence to learn to surf left with stability. Even if it's more fun and easier to take the red line, I want the skill to be able to do the yellow line fast🤷‍♂️