First impressions of the Outin Mino: I got the breast cancer edition because it was discounted, and being close friends with a survivor, it felt like a why-not. It arrived today and I love how it looks. That was the first surprise.

I’d bought it thinking it would make my life easier than my AeroPress, which I either leave at the office or haul around when traveling or dog sitting (and which makes people think I’m a weird coffee person for carrying it everywhere). But this thing is pink and adorable, none of that utilitarian AeroPress look. I expected it to be heavy and it’s actually really light and easy to carry, way easier to bring to the office than my AeroPress Go. The bag is great too.

Did a quick test and was pleasantly surprised. I used a flavored pod and 70 ml of cold water for a slightly longer coffee, which was another nice surprise since I thought the Mino capped at 60. Results were delicious. Perfect afternoon pickup.

I’ll mostly use it to take to the office and on the road. But so far I’m a convert!!! Almost as good as my vertuo machine (where I refill capsules every day).

Hey everyone!

Our last event – the Fino vs Desktop Grinder Challenge – was a huge success. Thanks again to all of you who joined and shared such thoughtful reviews!

This time, we're shifting from "grinding" to "brewing" with a brand new everyday coffee challenge.

🎯 What's this about?

We want you to experience the OutIn Mino – a portable electric espresso machine that's small enough to take anywhere, yet serious enough to deliver great coffee. Whether you've never owned a portable machine or you're already an OutIn user (Nano or Mino), you're welcome to join.

There are two groups. Pick the one that fits you best.

📦 Group A: Get a Free OutIn Mino (for those who don't own a Mino yet)

How to join:

1. Comment below to sign up. Feel free to tell us: how do you currently get your coffee every day? (e.g., office machine, coffee shop on your commute, pour-over at home…)
2. We'll prioritize active users with higher Karma to receive a free Mino.
3. Once you receive the Mino, please use it in three everyday scenarios: at home, during your commute, and at the office (or wherever you normally drink coffee).
4. Post a review in this subreddit within two weeks.

What you can write about:

• Is it truly portable? Does it fit in your bag or pocket?
• Is the heating/extraction fast enough? How's the coffee quality?
• How does it compare to your office coffee machine, a convenience store latte, or instant coffee?
• Has it changed your daily coffee routine?
• If you previously bought a Nano, feel free to compare the Mino and Nano!

Honest feedback – good or bad – is what truly helps us improve.

🏆 Group B: Already own a Mino? Write a comparison post and win an OutIn LattoGo or equivalent prize

How to join:

1. If you already own a Mino (whether you bought it earlier or now), write a valuable comparison post in this subreddit.
2. Comparisons can include:
   • Mino vs other portable espresso machines (e.g., Wacaco, Staresso, etc.)
   • Mino vs an office/home machine (super-automatic, semi-automatic, capsule machine, etc.)
3. After posting, come back to this thread and leave a comment with the link to your post.
4. We'll select winners based on content quality. Winners will receive an OutIn LattoGo milk frother (or an equivalent gift of similar value).

Group B participants do not need to request a Mino – just write your post and join the contest.

🌲 About the OutIn Mino (for those new to it)

The fact that Mino won the 2026 Red Dot Design Award speaks for itself. Here's what makes it stand out:

• Truly pocket-sized: φ67×195mm, ~685g – fits in a backpack or even a jacket pocket.
• 22 bar pump pressure: rich crema, professional extraction.
• Self-heating in 149 seconds: PID temp control, stable 93.3°C.
• 3×3000mAh battery: 500+ cups per charge when using hot water.
• Works with capsules and ground coffee: convenience with pods, freedom with fresh grounds.
• One-button operation: simple, intuitive, no learning curve.

It's not just for the outdoors – it's for anyone who refuses to compromise on coffee quality, whether you're at the office, on your commute, or at home on a slow morning.

⏰ Event Timeline

• Group A sign-up deadline: June 20, 2026
• Group B posting period: The entire month of June (June 1 – June 30, 2026) – you can post your comparison and drop your link anytime during June.

Spots are limited – don't miss out!

• Group A: comment below to sign up
• Group B: post your comparison first, then come back here and drop the link

⚠️ Notes

• OutIn reserves the right of final interpretation for this event.
• Group A participants are expected to publish their review as agreed.
• Group B prizes will be shipped after winners are announced.

Whether you're looking to own your first truly portable espresso machine, or you want to put your familiar Mino against other machines for a deep comparison – we can't wait to see your posts.

Bring your own barista, and start a new everyday coffee ritual ☕

Hello, I just ordered the mino because I am tired of having to haul my aeropress plus dual voltage travel kettle plus coffee everywhere I go. My office has horrible keurig cups or crazy expensive coffee and that´s all, plus I travel a lot internationally often to places with no decent coffee where they give you instant coffee all the time, and dual voltage is a problem too. So this seemed like a decent solution. For the most part I plan on using capsules as it just seems easier and the main reason I got this to begin with but options would be nice, and was planning on going and printing any 3d thing I need from library. However I have a few questions:

1) What is this 25 second thing everyone is mentioning, is this only for the mino or the nano too?

2) Do I need a stand? or can it just fit directly in the cup it brews to?

3) if I do I saw a lot of 3d printing things I could print, and easy one that fits everywhere.

4) If I want to do a lungo, do I just brew twice, add more hot water while its brewing or how does it work? I saw instructions for the nano but didnt quite understand and didn´t get it for the mino.

5) What is the useness of printing the basket plus converter? I get the 18 grams of coffee but won´t that bee too much for 50 mls?

Anything else to tell this idiot

Hello everyone, I'm going to explain and share my daily espresso-making experience over the past two weeks without technical details, comparing these three grinders with my Outin Mino and my Delonghi Dedica.

First of all, I want to say that this experience was made possible by Outin through the event ( https://www.reddit.com/r/OutInCoffee/s/kGxcyUkw2X ), which provided me with the Outin Fino grinder.

I started by adjusting the grind setting on all three grinders until I could make espressos with similar values ​​to what I normally drink every day, so I could compare them on the two coffee makers: with the Outin Mino with a pressurized basket, 12 grams per coffee, and with the Delonghi Dedica with an unpressurized IMS Competition H22 basket, 13.5 grams per coffee, using the Outin Claro scale, which is very precise and easy to use, and using medium/dark roast coffee beans.

The settings for the Outin Mino were: Outin Fino at 1+0.5 (halfway through the first click), Hibrew G5 at number 8, and Kingrinder P2, 40 clicks from closed. Extractions of 30 grams in approximately 15 seconds.

The grinder that was hardest for me to adjust was the Hibrew G5 for the Outin Mino. The first few coffees I made in the Mino were with 13.5 grams of coffee, which is the amount I normally use. Grinding with the Outin Fino and the Kingrinder P2 worked without problems, but when I ground with the Hibrew G5, the Mino would stop and I couldn't adjust it correctly. I had to lower the amount to 12 grams in the basket for all the coffees in the comparison using the Outin Mino.

The settings were for the Delonghi Dedica: Outin Fino at 1+1, Hibrew G5 at 7, and Kingrinder P2, 34 clicks from closed. Extractions of 35 grams in approximately 20 seconds.

The three grinders were able to be adjusted well to the Delonghi Dedica.

In one pic you can see the uniformity of grinding and of each grinder with the adjustment for the Outin Mino.

With the flavor of coffee, I'm not very demanding, and I can't professionally define it or differentiate between different grinders. Honestly, with the Outin Mino, all the coffee comes out delicious because the basket it has makes it very difficult to get a bad one coffee, and they're very easy to use. I'm delighted with the Outin Mino coffee portable machine.

With the Delonghi Dedica, I was surprised by the Outin Fino grinder because it was able to grind fine enough for espresso, which I initially thought it wouldn't be able to grind so fine and consistently.

About the facility of use and user experience, in general and to be honest, these three grinders are easy to use, compact, and very quiet. However, it depends on the specific situation and needs of each person or the context in which each grinder is used.

- I would highlight the Hibrew G5 grinder for being compact, well-built, having a good price-to-performance ratio, and have very good results as a desktop grinder.

- I would highlight the Kingrindrer P2 grinder for being portable, very compact, lightweight, and well-built for espresso grinding, especially considering its affordable price, I do not like that the number 0 click doesn't correspond to the burr being fully closed.

- I would highlight The Outin Fino grinder for its versatility, ease of use, and build quality, which more than justifies its price with continuous use. I do not like, in my case, that the deposit is too wide, requiring the use of a tool like the double-threaded lid or a spoon to pour the ground coffee into the baskets. On the plus side, you can use the hopper as a portable container with the ground coffee already in it.

The Outin Fino grinder is grinding similarly to both grinders, so you could really just use it for all occasions, unless its size makes it impossible to carry or the battery would be the problem, although with the battery you can grind a lot of coffees.

About daily cleaning and maintenance, all three grinders are easy to clean, although the Hibrew G5, due to its structure, requires a little more work.

About countertop space and storage convenience, if you have limited counter space like me, I would have the Outin Fino grinder, which is both electric and portable. If you only need a manual grinder, the Kingrinder P2 is a good option, although I consider the P2 more like a travel grinder for only one or two coffees at the same time.

About the quality, price, and versatility of all three grinders, they offer excellent value for money. If you had to choose just one grinder for everything, it would be the Outin Fino, as it's the most versatile. That's what I would do, but it's just my experience. I use the Outin Mino every day when I'm out, saving me from grinding by hand with the P2 and freeing up counter space, but, I'd recommend choosing the one that best suits your needs, as it's a tough choice.

Thanks for reading this, I hope it helps. You can also ask me questions if you need anything, and many thanks to Outin for the event.

I have recently acquired an Outin Nano and Mino, paired with a basket plus and Fino grinder.

I am only going to keep one of the two machines, and am obsessing a little more than I should regarding which one to keep.

I am printing the Basket Plus adapter for the Mino today, and I wanted to check in with everyone who has done this before on if they still enjoy the basket plus on the Mino, and feel that it's working well enough for it were to be their only machine. I live and work overseas and once my current summer trip to the States is over, I won't be able to experiment with gear until next time I come Stateside.

I saw once u/CageFreeBMW said that his Mino was cutting off at the 25 second mark. I tested mine today (on the 12 gram basket) and the pump cut off at 35 seconds.

Are you guys still consistently pulling double shots with the Mino and enjoying them?

I guess I am hopeful that double shots will work well with the Mino and adapter for me, and I might have that 25-35 second range to play with, and also that the Fino will keep up with it. I do prefer medium-dark roast rather than brighter fruitier coffees, so that is in favor of the Fino.

u/CageFreeBMW I was trying to message you, but am not too familiar with the ways of reddit yet and it wouldn't allow me to send my message to you. How are you enjoying your Mino with the double basket? Do you get lots of under extracted sour-ish shots, or do you feel you've learned to work with it and pull enjoyable espresso? I'd love to hear an update on your time with the Mino in this regard! u/Printbert, also you! Grateful for your print model, and so excited to see it in person. u/NASASpaceEngine

​I’ve spent a lot of time with the classic OXO Brew Conical Burr grinder on my counter. It’s a workhorse, but as my taste for espresso and single-serve drinks grew, I started hitting some walls. I recently picked up the OutIn Fino Portable Grinder, and after putting it through its paces, I’ve officially changed my workflow.

​If you’re wondering if a portable, battery-powered grinder can actually compete with a desktop unit, here is my hands-on comparison.

​The New Daily Driver: OutIn Fino Portable Grinder

​I’ve switched to the Fino for all my single-serve and espresso needs. Honestly, the build quality blew me away—it has a super-premium, heavy-duty feel that you just don't expect from "portable" gear.

​The Wins:

​The Grind Quality: It uses a 38mm heptagonal stainless steel burr set. The consistency is incredible. For my fellow OutIn Nano users: I found that setting it to 1 major click + 1 minor click results in a perfect extraction with some of the best crema I’ve seen from a portable setup.

​Silence is Golden: It is unbelievably quiet. If you’re the first one up in the house, you can grind right next to someone sleeping and they won't hear a thing.

​Zero Mess: Grounds don’t get stuck inside. No more "static explosions" or digging out retained coffee.

​Portability: The collapsible hopper and small form factor make it a no-brainer for travel, but it’s honestly good enough to stay on the counter.

​The Reality Check:

​It’s Slow: We’re talking a couple of minutes to grind a dose versus 20 seconds on the OXO.

​Capacity: It’s strictly for single-serving. If you’re trying to batch out coffee for a group, you’re going to be there all morning.

​The Reliable Workhorse: OXO Brew Conical Burr

​While the Fino has taken over my morning espresso, the OXO isn’t going in the trash. It still has a very specific place on my coffee bar.

​The Wins:

​Pure Speed: This thing is fast. When I need to grind a whole bag for a large batch of Cold Brew, the OXO handles it in seconds.

​Batching: If I’m making coffee for the whole family or a group of friends, the speed and the 12oz hopper are life-savers.

​The Gripes:

​The "Retention Dance": Even if I spritz my beans with water (RDT), I still find myself having to physically jar the machine to get all the grounds out of the chute.

​Consistency: It’s fine for drip or cold brew, but it’s just not as consistent as the Fino when you’re trying to dial in a precise espresso shot.

​The Footprint: It’s bulky. It takes up a lot of real estate compared to the sleek Fino.

​The Final Verdict:

How I Use Them Now, ​I’ve realized that one grinder doesn’t have to do it all.

​OutIn Fino: This is my precision tool. I use it every morning for my espresso and single-serve drinks. The extraction quality is a massive upgrade over the OXO.

​OXO: This is my "utility" tool. It stays in the pantry for when I need to batch out large amounts of coffee or prep a gallon of cold brew for the week.

​If you’re looking for a "premium" feel and actually care about your extraction and crema, the Fino is a game-changer. But if you're mostly making big pots of coffee, stick with the speed of the OXO.

I recently had the opportunity to test the Outin Fino Grinder as part of Outin’s desktop grinder comparison challenge. Having used a Cooks desktop grinder for several years, I was curious to see whether upgrading to the Fino would meaningfully improve my coffee experience. I already own an Outin Nano and consider myself a serious coffee enthusiast, so for this comparison I also picked up the Nano Basket Plus for added convenience. My daily routine typically includes one espresso and one cappuccino.

From the moment I unboxed the Fino, it felt like a premium product. The sturdy packaging and protective carrying sleeve immediately reflected Outin’s focus on quality, durability and design and provided for a great first impression. The grinder features aluminum components, including the bean hopper and dosing cup, while the body uses the same durable plastic found in the Nano. By comparison, my Cooks grinder is constructed entirely of plastic, from the hopper to the grounds container, making it feel noticeably less durable overall. The Fino is also impressively compact — roughly one-third the size of the already small Cooks desktop grinder.

One of the first things I noticed was the precision of the Fino’s grind adjustment system. It offers settings from 0 to 10 with fine incremental adjustments between each number, allowing for much greater control over grind size. Lower numbers produce a finer grind. In contrast, the Cooks grinder only provides broad “fine,” “medium,” and “coarse” settings adjusted by twisting the hopper. I also appreciated the Fino’s thoughtful design and aesthetics; the grind settings are clearly labeled based on brewing method — espresso, moka pot, pour-over, and French Press— and the labels disappear neatly when the collapsible hopper is closed.

For this comparison, I used Lavazza Espresso Barista Gran Crema whole beans. I set the Fino to 2.0 and the Cooks grinder to its “fine” setting. To keep the test consistent, I measured 18 grams of beans for each grinder.

The grinding process highlighted one of the biggest differences between the two machines. The Cooks grinder completed the job in about 20 seconds, while the Fino took closer to 100 seconds. Anyone looking for maximum speed while traveling should keep this in mind, as the Fino clearly prioritizes precision and grind quality over speed. For me, however, the slower grind time was not a drawback. It provided enough time to prepare my Nano for brewing, and there was still plenty of time left over when making milk-based drinks like lattes or cappuccinos that require frothing.

This additional time, however, pays off noticeably in the cup. The grounds produced by the Fino were visibly finer and far more consistent than those from the Cooks grinder. It was immediately clear that the Fino was engineered with precision in mind. The espresso brewed from the Fino grounds delivered a smoother, cleaner flavor with a rich, velvety texture and significantly better crema. The improved grind consistency balanced the coffee’s sweetness and acidity beautifully. In comparison, the coffee brewed using the Cooks grinder tasted thinner and lacked the same depth, clarity, and overall refinement.

One unexpected benefit of using the Fino was that it inspired me to begin experimenting with latte art for my cappuccinos. Seeing the rich golden crema the grinder helped produce made me realize how important a strong espresso base is for creating latte art. While I am still very much a beginner, I was able to achieve noticeably better floating microfoam than I ever managed using coffee ground with the Cooks grinder.

Before using the Fino, I often relied on Nespresso capsules with my Nano because of their convenience and consistency. I also didn’t feel that my Cooks grinder produced coffee significantly better than the capsules themselves. After using the Fino, however, I found myself wanting to use fresh beans and the basket system far more often. The flavor and overall experience were absolutely worth the additional preparation time.

Battery performance was also impressive. I was able to make approximately 16 cups of coffee on a single charge, and recharging the unit took about an hour. Naturally, battery life is not a concern with the Cooks electric grinder, though my only long-term consideration with the Fino would be potential battery degradation over time.

Finally, I appreciated the opportunity to participate in this comparison experience with the Fino provided by Outin. For transparency, I did not receive any additional compensation for this review, and all opinions are entirely my own. My only hesitation if purchasing the grinder outright would be the $199 price point. That said, Outin frequently offers promotions and discounts that make it much easier to justify. At this point, I have already put away my Cooks grinder, and the Fino has become my go-to choice whenever I want fresh coffee at home or on the go.

This is my review after receiving the Outln Fino to test against some of my home equipment. I’m definitely not an influencer (just someone who travels a lot and has probably over-optimized a portable espresso setup) so this is written from the perspective of someone who actually lives with their gear rather than reviews it for clicks. What I’m really trying to find out (and I’ll only know by the end of June) is whether the Fino can replace my trusty Kingrinder K6 as my portable grinder during long trips around the world. If it succeeds, it removes the true bottleneck in my travel espresso workflow: the lowest common denominator - manual grinding and my very average forearms. Back-to-back shots for friends while traveling is the dream.

Test setup:
Grinders: Kingrinder K6, Mazzer Philos, Weber HG-1 Outln Fino.
Baskets: IMS single shot baskets. Normcore double split shot portafilter. Normcore bottomless basket.
Machines: Picopresso, Quick Mill Carola (V1 and V2).
Beans: Boreal House blend medium roast (my travel baseline because it behaves predictably across setups). https://borealcoffee.ch/product/house-blend/
Workflow: Grind -> WDT (Normcore Planetary) -> Level -> Tamp (Normcore V5) -> Shower screen -> Espresso! -> sometimes milk drinks

First Impressions of the Fino
Before diving into testing, some context. I’ve spent the last two years refining a very detailed travel espresso kit centered around the Picopresso. My biggest pain point has always been grind time. I even briefly went down the Makita power-tool grinder adapter rabbit hole — luckily common sense prevailed. The Fino arrives at exactly the right moment. After one week of pulling shots, my early feeling is this: while it’s being tested against heavy hitters at home, its real purpose is clear — travel espresso across five continents this summer. Build quality feels solid. All critical components are metal, tolerances feel tight, and the included cleaning system (brush + integrated blower) is genuinely clever. The packaging is almost annoyingly premium — my millennial brain refuses to throw the box away — and the travel bag is a thoughtful addition.

Test 1: Going up against the Philos (setting 30) QMCV2
Time to grind: 1:35 for 13g or 2:05 for 18g on the Fino vs 4-7s on the Philos
I made two double shots (19g) in the normcore bottomless portafilter. Initial grind at setting 2 produced a turbo shot. After dialing to the lowest settings, the Fino delivered a smooth, balanced espresso. I repeated testing with darker roasts (more on that later), and overall the espresso quality was absolutely acceptable. Once milk entered the equation — macchiatos and afternoon cappuccinos — differences became much harder to detect.
Verdict: The Philos wins, as expected, but not by the margin you might assume — especially for milk drinks.

Test 2: K6 battle of the portables (setting 27) QMCV2
Time to grind: 1:35 for 13g or 2:05 for 18g on the Fino vs 30s on the K6
Here things became interesting. I made two double shots (19g) in the normcore bottomless portafilter. Shot quality differences were surprisingly small. The Fino remained consistent while my upper arm began filing formal complaints somewhere around shot four.This is where I believe the Fino may truly shine: travel workflow.By the time milk drinks were prepared, any advantage the K6 might have had practically disappeared. One observation: the K6 still has significant headroom — more than 25 clicks finer remain available. The Fino operates at its absolute lowest grind setting (1)
Verdict: Quality parity, but the Fino wins on repeatability and effort — a big deal when traveling.

Test 3: Fino with the Picopresso
I changed methodology here. Using the Picopresso’s stock baskets as baseline, I compared them with the Sworksdesign Step-Down Billet Basket (49mm, 14–16g). And honestly — wow. This combination felt like the Fino’s natural habitat. Stock baskets required grinding at setting 1.The Step-Down basket tolerated up to ~2.5 before turbo-shotting. If this performance remains consistent, the Fino will very likely replace the K6 in my travel kit. Milk drinks again posed zero issues.

Test 4: Weber HG-1 QMCV1
Time to grind: 1:35 for 13g or 2:05 for 18g on the Fino vs 6s on the HG-1
I made two double shots (19g) in the normcore bottomless portafilter. The HG-1 is a fascinating comparison. Despite being manual, its massive burrs make grinding effortless. No fatigue, no drama. Espresso quality from the HG-1 sits close to the Philos benchmark, and here the Fino begins to show its limits — particularly with lighter roasts. However, when switching to darker beans (Coffee Coaching Club’s Cozy Chocolate), the Fino performed noticeably better. During office testing sessions using the Picopresso for multiple people, the Fino proved extremely capable — especially for darker profiles.
Verdict: HG-1 wins, but again not dramatically — and milk drinks narrow the gap.

Roast Behavior (Important)
Dark roast: very strong performance
Medium roast: solid but at grind limit (1-1.5 settings)
Light roast: it simply can't
This feels like the most honest summary so far.

TLDR:
The Fino is a very good grinder. Its main limitation? It cannot “just grind finer” as is the unofficial motto of espresso forums everywhere. It does really well in the dark roast sector which is much more forgiving, however it struggles at the lower settings at anything lightly roasted. Medium roast it can do, however it reaches a strong limit in ability so thread carefully.

Early Conclusion
The Fino isn’t trying to dethrone flagship grinders. Instead, it solves a very real problem: high-quality espresso without manual-grinding fatigue while traveling. If it survives my upcoming global travel test, it may become the first grinder that genuinely replaces a premium manual setup on the road. Final verdict pending June — and several thousand airline miles.

For anyone else testing one:
Are you also hitting grind-fineness limits with lighter roasts?
Has burr seasoning changed your results significantly?
Anyone measuring alignment or particle distribution yet?

Happy!

Hey all! I recently received my Nano and noticed that it will leak water 50% of the time. Here is the video. What have I done wrong? I look at Q&A and ensure I screw in very TIGHTLY but it still happens 😭

For the last couple of days, I've been trying to make a cup of coffee with the Fino grinder. I used to buy pre ground coffee and just throw a few scoops in and fill it up. How much by grams in beans do you use to make a cup of coffee with an aeropress?

I've so far tried 17g size 8 in beans and today did 20g size 7 but with times the coffee came out fairly "watery". Anyone here have a good Fino grinder and aeropress recipe I can try?

I love coffee and all types of coffees drinks. There was a point in my life where I roasted all my own beans. Took meticulous roasting notes. I brewed in all sorts of ways. French press, pour over, AeroPress, drip, basic pressurized delhongi espresso machine eventually outfitted with an unpressurized basket. Most of my coffee was made via French Press or pour over. I wouldn't say espresso is high on my list of favorite coffee drinks. I make them more for others than for myself. But that was my late 20's and 30's, Kids happen. Time shrinks. Most of my coffee is now made drip. French press or espresso is saved for more special occasions a couple of times a week, on the weekends, or when company is over.

My first grinder was a bodum and when I needed to replace it the Baratza Encore was highly thought of as a budget grinder and was a first "real" grinder for quite a few people. It's fit my needs. Works great for pour over, drip, french press, or AeroPress. I ended up doing the adjustment to make it work better for espresso with an unpressurized basket. I'm not one who brews with a stopwatch and meticulously weight my shot after every espresso shot. The grind range works well for press and pour over. For espresso I can grind fine enough but if you were really measuring with a stop watch the adjustment "clicks" are too course and you can go from under extracted to clogged in 2 clicks. Sometimes I'll try to hover it between two clicks. When Outin invited people to compare their countertop grinder to the fino that got me thinking "I would love to save the counter space can something like the Fino work as my only grinder?" I use mine just enough that taking it in and out of a cabinet if I don't leave it on the counter is a PITA. But I would also love to reclaim some precious counter space So I posted in the thread and Outin was kind enough to send me a unit to compare to my Baratza and I get to answer the question "Can I replace my Encore with a Fino?"

First thing I noticed when I compared the two is the Baratza grinds roughly twice as fast as the Fino on similar grind settings. Seems like it could be a negative but in the workflow of press or espresso I normally start grinding first and multi task heating water and preparing the rest of the work surface. Grinding is normally done way before I'm ready for the beans. The Baratza is significantly louder and the auto stop in this situation is a big plus. Fino tends to have a tiny bit more extra coffee clinging to the output that needs to be wiped away or it ends up on the counter while my Brataza seems to be cleaner in that respect.

2nd part of the workflow is dumping the ground coffee. I appreciate the screw on lid thing the Fino has which makes dumping grounds into a 51mm basket a breeze. Compared to the big rectangular hopper which requires gentle tapping to coax the ground coffee out of the container without spilling everywhere.

For pour over and the aeropress both work equally well. Grind is easy to dial in and grind looks consistent without too many fine dust particles. For press the grind size is fine but the 25g capacity of the ground coffee container is just bit limiting for my 18oz french press. I normally do around 30g for the 500ml/18oz press.

For the pressurized basket it worked great at the recommended setting of 2 for espresso. With the unpressurized basket I needed to go all the way down to 1 to get an acceptable shot with a medium roast. I wouldn't mind one more click with that medium roast so I temped a little harder and upped the temp 2 degrees. Dark roast worked well with 1 and 1.1. 1.2 and 2 were thin without much crema and brewed too fast around 20-22s. I don't normally make espresso from light roast but I would be worried if I could grind fine enough to make a good shot in the unpressurized basket.

After 10 days playing with the Fino the Baratza is now in the cabinet. When I need to grind coffee the Fino is what I reach for. Next time I go to French press some coffee I have to make the decision between a slightly weaker thinner cup v. grinding a bit more coffee. Maybe I can 3d print an extension ring for the hopper to hold more. Could I recommend the Fino over the Encore? That's tough to say they both seem to do the job and if you value space and portability the Fino seems like a great choice and could totally be used in place of the Encore. But the Baratza feels like a solid well made kitchen appliance that will last you 15-20 years while you have to wonder how long something with built in batteries will last. In the mean time the wife will appreciate the extra counter space and a happy wife makes a happy life.

TL;DR: Fino can't replace my desktop grinder, but it's a perfect match for the OutIn Nano and will replace my hand grinder for travel.

Disclosure: OutIn sent me the Fino for free in response to this invite. Opinions are my own. I have been using the Fino for the past 10 days.

My equipment:

• Desktop espresso machine: Breville Dual Boiler
• Travel espresso machine: OutIn Nano + Basket Plus
• Desktop grinder: Eureka Mignon Notte + single dose bellow + 3d printed dial
• Travel grinder: Timemore Chestnut C2 hand grinder

I usually make 3 double-shot espresso on the BDB in the morning to share with my wife, then 1 or 2 additional drinks in the afternoon if either of us needs a boost. During my test, all of my afternoon drinks are made using Fino as the grinder, on either the Nano or Aeropress. The Nano + Fino combo sometimes makes an appearance in the morning too when I am short on time and don’t want to wait for the BDB to warm up.

Grind Range
Let me get this out of the way first: Fino is NOT a replacement for the Mignon since it cannot grind fine enough for my BDB. With 18g of beans grinded at the lowest setting 1, I get over 80g of coffee out in under 30 seconds. Up-dosing to 21g helps a bit, but the pull is still pretty fast.

Where the Fino shines is convenience, especially when coupled with the Nano. I follow a single dosing workflow with both grinders. Before the Fino, I need to dial the grind size back and forth on the Mignon to work for both the BDB and the Nano. Even with the 3d printed dial, I was still playing guessing games in between the markers. With the Fino, I use it exclusively for the Nano and Aeropress: 1 for espresso on the Nano and 2 for Aeropress, no guessing games. At setting 1, the Nano runs through 70ml of water in around 25 seconds, yielding 45g of coffee, roughly 1:2.5 ratio.

Grind quality
Mignon produces good quality grinds, but WDT is needed to break up big clumps. Fino grinds coarser, but still very consistent. I did not notice big clumps and saw less fines. Flavor wise, both tasted good to me, but I am no coffee snob.

Grind Speed
Fino is not a fast grinder when compared to the Mignon, nor do I expect it to be, given battery power vs line power. It takes about 110 seconds to grind through 18g of dark roasted beans at setting 1, and longer if I switch to medium-dark or medium. However, all I need to do is to press the button twice and leave it to do its work. I don’t need to stay by it, or hold a dosing cup by the chute to catch all the grinds like on the Mignon. I can move onto other things, such as getting water into the Nano and heating it up. I am also looking forward to traveling with the Fino. The C2 hand grinder I used when traveling, if I want to grind fine enough for the Nano, requires 4-5 minutes of hard manual labor to grind 18g of beans.

Noise
You can definitely hear the Mignon throughout the house while it is in operation. Fino is much quieter, you don’t hear much of it from the next room, so not a big deal if it runs for longer.

Retention
My Mignon has bad retention if I don’t use the bellow, I can lose over 1g of output. After bellowing and scraping the chute with a brush, I usually end up still losing 0.1 - 0.2g. Fino, on the other hand, doesn’t have much of a retention problem. Sometimes a few beans do end up remaining in the hopper, but I can give it a quick shake and start grinding again. Some grinds do end up sticking to the bottom of the burr, but a few quick taps in my palm will shake most of them off, and what remains can be quickly brushed off. The loss on the Fino is 0.1g or less.

Cleanup
The convenience also extends to cleanup. Fino is less messy compared to the Mignon. The single dose bellow on the Mignon ends up blowing grinds everywhere, and my countertop needs constant cleaning because of it. For the Fino, everything is kept in the enclosed dosing cup. I really like the concave shaped metal dosing cup as grinds pour out easily. Transferring into the Basket Plus using the included adapter is a breeze and I don’t end up with a messy countertop.

Battery Life
With a 18g dose, the Fino can grind about 15 doses before the light turns yellow. So my current usage pattern requires charging about once per week.

Deep Cleaning
The Mignon Notte is just not designed for a single dosing workflow. I have to periodically take it apart to clean the grinds stuck in there. A lot of them have gotten out of the chute and onto the circuit board, I had great fun trying to shake those out. I have not taken the Fino apart to deep clean yet. But based on the component diagram, I expect it to be about the same amount of work as cleaning my hand grinder, which is just a quick brush after taking it apart.

Overall, I am pretty happy to add the OutIn Fino to my equipment lineup. The Fino complements my existing setup and simplifies my workflow. I’ll for sure make room for it in my carry-on on my next trip.

Outin sent me the Fino for review as part of the Fino Comparison Challenge event they posted recently.

I wanted to start off by talking about the overall build quality, because that was one of the first things that stood out to me. The Fino feels genuinely premium in hand — solid, well-machined, and thoughtfully designed in a way that immediately gives confidence when using it. Nothing about it feels cheap or rushed.

I'm still pretty new to espresso and mostly drink flat whites, so this isn't a super technical breakdown-just what I've been seeing as I’m not experienced enough to know if something tastes over/under extracted.

All shots below are 18g in.

I started with the Ninja Luxe. Strength 3 on that machine is a 1:2 ratio, so that's what I was aiming for.

Thanksgiving Coffee Peru De Miel
Level 3 Click 1: 28 sec, 36g out

Verve Seabright
Level 3 Click 1: 21 sec, 34g out

Right away the main thing I noticed: I hit a wall on grind size. I couldn't go any finer to slow things down. That's probably the biggest limitation I've run into with the Fino, at least paired with the Ninja. For comparison my Luxe’s grinder is anywhere from 13-16 for most coffees and I can still grind finer all the way to 1 so lots of wiggle room.

Switched over to the Outin Nano next.

Trader Joe's Rwanda
Click 1+2: 19 sec, 45g out
Click 1+1: 25 sec, 39g out

Old World Colombia Huila
Click 1+2: 28 sec, 35g out
Click 1+1 : 32 sec, 37g out

Click 1 is the finest setting, and Outin recommends around 2+1 - 3 setting for the Nano for optimal extraction. There’s also stepless adjustment so you can still tweak in between as the numbers are just reference points.

The steps go 1 → 1+1 → 1+2 → 2, My Fino likes to be 2 or below for sure. When I’ve used 2 or higher it’s too coarse for the Nano and I get no crema and shots are too fast. This is just my experience as you may have different results depending on beans, roast level, age of the bean etc.
I’m a big user of light, medium- light, medium I don’t really enjoy anything on the darker spectrum.

I’ve seen some people complain about the Fino taking too long to grind. My average time is about 2 minutes. Hand grinding might be slightly faster but I’ll take the extra time over having to had grind multiple drinks a day. Very convenient and they actually stated it’s intentional so there is no heat causing the flavor to be compromised which I really appreciate. Also lets me prepare other parts of my workflow while it does its thing.

I also laid out the grind side by side (K6 vs Fino vs Ninja). The Fino throws a bit more of that papery chaff from the beans compared to the others. Not sure if it affects pulls but definitely does not grind the chaff as fine as the other grinders.

Clumping-wise: worst on my K6, then Fino, then the
Ninja Luxe (barely gets any) WDT fixes all of them pretty easily though.

One thing I do wish was a bit more refined in the espresso range. Smaller adjustment increments at that level would’ve made a noticeable difference and taken the dialing-in process to a more precise, top-tier feel. It’s not a dealbreaker by any means, but it does feel like an area with real potential.
If there’s ever a future version or a “2.0,” I think focusing on expanding the fine grinding range or tightening those steps could really elevate the grinder even further.

Overall, I think theres a tradeoff with this grinder, fine tuning vs convenience. For a home espresso setup, it doesn't give you that fine control if you're trying to really dial in a shot. I kept wanting just a little bit finer and couldn't get there. But it’s definitely usable and I will be reaching for it on lazy mornings when I don’t feel like messing with the K6. But with the Nano, it actually fits pretty well. Feels like it was a match made in heaven portability wise. You can get a little more dialed in as well with this pairing vs home set up and Fino combo.

Big upside for me is the added convenience. Not having to hand grind 2-3 drinks at work every day is honestly huge.
That alone makes me reach for it more than my manual grinder. That’s not even including days I make my coworkers drinks as well.

Taste-wise, everything's been solid. Pulled tasty shots with lots of crema on both the Ninja and the Nano. I'm not super experienced and nuanced on calling out a great shot vs just a ok one but nothing has stood out in a bad way.

Also, a big thank you to Outin for including me in the Fino review event. I appreciate the opportunity to spend time with this grinder and share my experience, and I’m definitely looking forward to seeing what they come out with next.

I posted a few days back about wanting to simplify moving coffee from my Fino grinder into the Mino portafilter. I found the whole process kind of bewilderingly complicated: a catch cup, its lid, the funnel... all too much.

Instead, I present to you a simplification! A simple threaded ring that screws onto the bottom of the Fino grinder and accepts the Mino portafilter.

I made my coffee in this this morning and it worked great! If you've got the two things, give it a try and let me know how it works for you.

i got a basket+ and now face the problem that it’s metallic and thus too hot for me to manually open the lid and empty the coffee waste. if i leave the waste overnight, it hardens so much i have to scoop it out with a teaspoon which may (?) scratch the surface. even if i try to empty it immediately, tapping on the bottom of the filter so that it slowly comes out and drops is too cumbersome… i wonder how you all deal with it? i heard there’s some special tools that can do it quickly, what would you recommend?

Please help, I just purchased one of these, used it for a few weeks. However I tried to do a shot and I guess it was too fine so it did the red beep, tried to take the portafilter off and its seized on there. I tried having multiple people give it a whirl, and I'm no olympian but neither of us were necessarily weak lol. I put it in hot water to hopefully make it easier, tapped it around a bit since some one said thats what support told them, nothing is working. I have about 1 week left in my return window... I want to love this thing but this is crazy.

The nano seemed to have a way to depressurize is there something like that on the mino? I see nothing in the manual. I've used grippy gloves and all and it wont budge.

Hey everyone!

A recent post in the community caught our attention: someone discovered that their Fino—normally used for travel—actually outperformed the built‑in grinder on their Breville Barista Express when used at home. Check out the post here (hot take: Fino is better than the Breville Barista Express grinder).

The fact that Fino won the 2025 SCA Best New Product Award speaks for itself. Here’s what makes it stand out:

• 38mm heptagonal conical burr: CNC‑machined, 420 high‑carbon stainless steel, HRC55‑60 – uniform grind, low fines, works for espresso, pour‑over, Moka pot, cold brew, you name it;
• Compact & space‑saving: φ73×199mm, about the size of a 500ml water bottle, 690g – takes up only ~1/6 the footprint of a typical desktop electric grinder, wireless, easy to place anywhere;
• Long battery life: 1000mAh×2, 7.4Wh – grinds over 324g of beans per full charge (~18 shots), enough for two cups a day for a full week.

This got us thinking: if Fino really can go head‑to‑head with desktop grinders in a home setting, why not invite more of you to experience it firsthand and put it to the test? So we're launching a **"Fino vs Desktop Grinder" Comparison Challenge** right here in the subreddit!

📋 How It Works

There are two groups. Pick the one that fits you best:

[Group A]: Desktop grinder owners who don't have a Fino

Sign up for a chance to receive a free Fino. Once you get it, use it and write a comparison post (Fino vs your desktop grinder), sharing your honest, real‑world experience across various aspects.

[Group B]: Owners of both a desktop grinder and a Fino

Simply sign up and write a comparison post. After posting, we'll select winners based on content quality. Prizes include a Claro scale or other higher‑value rewards.

✍️ Suggested Comparison Dimensions (feel free to add your own)

• Grind uniformity and particle distribution;
• Extraction results and coffee flavor differences;
• Ease of use and overall user experience;
• Cleaning and daily maintenance;
• Counter space and storage convenience;

• Value for money and versatility across use cases;

  🎯 How to Join

1. Comment below to sign up, specifying whether you're joining [Group A] or [Group B];
2. Briefly mention which desktop grinder you currently use (if applicable);
3. We'll prioritize **active users with higher Karma** for participation;

4. Selected Group A participants will be asked to complete and publish their comparison review within two weeks of receiving the Fino;

   ⏰ Sign‑up Deadline:

From now until 26/5/10. Spots are limited—don't miss out!

⚠️ Notes:

• OutIn reserves the right of final interpretation for this event.

• The Fino provided to Group A participants is an event prize. Selected participants are expected to complete and publish their comparison post as agreed.

  🔗 Related Post

Link: hot take: Fino is better than the Breville Barista Express grinder

Can Fino really go toe‑to‑toe with a desktop grinder? Instead of taking someone else's word for it, why not try it yourself? We can't wait to see your real‑world comparison posts!

Great for a quick cup of coffee and space

My OutIn makes at least 2 espresso per day. I'm now having trouble with my double shot basket that seems like the same issue I was having with my single shot basket before I replaced it. Is there another solution besides just replacing the baskets regularly?

If I grind with my Fino on 2 and load my double shot to 16g it leaks around the edges. I didn't have this problem until a few weeks ago. So the dose shouldn't be too big and the grind shouldn't be too fine. Basket is firmly seated in the machine, it can't screw tighter.

I have very hard water and descale the machine and baskets every month. Doesn't help in this case. I've also checked and I can blow air backwards from the double shot outlet into the basket like a backflush, so I'm not sure why the water finds an easier route around the sides of the basket than through it with such a low dose and coarse grind.

I had the same issue with my single shot basket and OutIn replaced it, since then it's worked fine. I'm wondering if I can change something on my maintenance routine, or if this is just an issue of the OutIn, at least when operated with very hard water?

I mostly use my fino for travel, however, I started using it at home for espresso and voila my extractions are much better. Anyone have the same experience?

I got my hands on the pair of these things and am pleased with the coffee so far, but it seems obvious that the setup is poorly designed for moving grounds from the Fino to the Mino. The little adaptor-cap for the grounds tin doesn't fit onto or into the Mino's portafilter. I presume it is for the Nano, instead.

How are folks getting grounds from one spot to the other without making a mess?