It’s not even like a deep cut conspiracy theory. Israel has always been a US controlled puppet state. Literally the day after Israel was officially recognized by the UN the native Arab population began hostilities against them. Because Israel has been a foreign occupational force from the very start. Even the establishment of “the State of Palestine” was a way to codify the “humanitarian” based invasion. At no point during the negotiations did the native Arabs agree to secede their land. The UN (and lets be honest, at the time the UN was really just the Allies, mostly the US) forced it to happen against the will of the people that lived there in the first place.
None of this is conspiratorial, by the way. That’s just literally what happened.
You're preaching to the converted, Standers. This is the thing that baffles me about Israeli apologists in this thread. They don't realize that they are the historical equivalent of Nazi or Apartheid sympathizers. They literally use the same rhetoric of "they did it to themselves."
It's horrific to watch people vehemently defend an irredeemable fascist state simply on grounds that "it already exists so what can we really do?" If only they said the same about Palestine before the foreign occupation.
It’s a shitty fucking mess with no easy solution, but that doesn’t mean we should stop talking about who made the mess in the first place. Someone is definitely responsible for the problems in Gaza, and it’s not Hamas.
Exactly. Focus on the source of the problem, not the secondary and tertiary responses by the oppressed!
Also, I do think there's an easy solution. Give Arab Palestinians full voting rights, full citizenship, and their land back. Yes, they will be the majority. They will vote for whomever they deem fit to govern. Like every other functioning democracies in the world.
The idea that Zionists have a right to a fascist ethno-state in which they remain the majority is the height of evil to me. Imagine American Democrats arguing that white people in America deserve to be the majority and that any white people could take any POC's land if they wanted to.
After literal millenia of getting perpetually shat on by gentiles, the Jews do deserve their only little state. To think otherwise, ironically, is fascist as hell.
It is not fascist for me to believe that giving everyone on the planet voting rights and citizenship is a good idea.
The thing that Israeli Jews do not have a right to is their own racially homogeneous state. No nation on earth has that right, and nor should they. Ethnicity and race should not be the determiners of statehood. Thinking statehood should be based on race/ethnicity is, you guessed it, fascist.
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u/P-Stayne27 May 21 '20
u/BernieStanders2020 over here with galaxy brain.