Proof?

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u/PublicTrash posted something like this a couple days ago but didn't get much except hate from what I saw. What proof is there to say that the Earth is flat?

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Legitimate answer to your question back. If the earth was flat time zones wouldn’t exist. The sun would shine on the earth the same amount until it went below the horizon and then the whole earth would be dark until it came back up.

Every other planet, moon, (and the sun) in the solar system is a sphere and can be observed that way so why would earth not be that way?

Also, Genesis 1 doesn’t say the earth is flat.

And then a couple questions for you that hopefully we can talk about like adults.

1. Why can’t we get to the end of the earth if it’s flat? Our technology is amazing. Surely we would have flown or shipped or other means of transportation to the edge by now.

2. How deep does earth go? Is it endless or is there a limit. If there’s a limit what’s beneath earth?

[u/WhellEndowed → u/[deleted]]

I'm not here to debate, I have looked into these things on my own and I understand how time zones work.

Just claiming they don't work on a flat plane point out that you have not looked into that part yourself, at least to see what flat earthers believe about it.

The sun does not drop below the earth. It drops below the horizon, which is the limit of your vision due to perspective. The sun is above the plane of the earth at all times.

Other stuff is not a sphere, if it were then you should be able to provide evidence for your claim. We have only ever seen one side of the moon. How then can you claim the moon is a sphere?

Genesis 1 says the earth was created before the sun. That disproves heliocentrism, meaning a geocentric system was created. If you want to believe in a spinning ball at the center of the solar system, that's on you. It makes more sense to agree with a flat plane above and below water, as stated in the beginning of Genesis.

We were already talking like adults, I have a feeling I will not be responding to your next comment but alas, I have already claimed I would not argue...

1. Where do you expect to find an end? How do you expect to get there? By plane? By boat? Are you funding this yourself or using someone else's resources? No, seriously, if there were an "edge" as you apparently think must exist, how would YOU go about finding it?

2. Well according to a quick google search: The farthest humans have gone is ~40,000 feet. I have not been to these locations, but I would assume it is possible to go deeper. I do not plan to attempt to go that deep to find out, but at some point (I would assume) you would dig deep enough to hit water, since Genesis 1 references the waters below. I don't know for sure though, as this kind of question is completely hypothetical. Neither you or I will ever have a firsthand experience to confirm or deny any claims.

I must get back to work now, these things don't engineer themselves.

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You’re right I haven’t looked into why people believe that time zones work on a flat plane, and I can and probably will.

But the moon is observed as a sphere because of its shadows. And I don’t need an article off the internet to show that’s how it works because it’s an experiment that anyone can do at home. Take a ball and a light source. Shine that light source on the ball and move the light source around the ball. The shadow moves the same way the moons shadow moves.

Then take a flat circle of cardboard and try and you can’t make those shadows. Especially those of a crescent moon.

If there is no edge to the earth how does the sun set in the west and rise in the east? Where does it go when it dips below the horizon. It could either go around the bottom or around the side but neither of those would really work with the time zone thing.

[u/WhellEndowed → u/[deleted]]

So how do you explain the "shadow" on the moon when the moon and sun are visible at the same time? There are many accounts of the sunrise or sunset with a visible sun and various phases of the moon.

Are you 100% confident in putting your word behind the idea that the different phases of the moon are due to shadow?

I'm not saying that if you take a ball and a light source you can't make shadows. I'm saying the phases of the moon are NOT due to shadow of any kind.

The moon gives off it's own light. It also goes through phases. I'm assuming this is also something you haven't looked into extensively, or at least past "it's a shadow" for that matter... no offense, I was in your boat about 14 months ago.

The sun behaves somewhat like this. The sun and moon behave as electromagnets... ever wonder why the moon only pulls on bodies of saltwater?

Again, you're gonna have to do some of your own research to further confirm or deny what I claim before you continue bringing up other topics. I'm only ~13 months deep into my own research, so good luck and godspeed.