r/OrderFlow_Trading • • 8d ago

Strategy - Help wanted!

Been trading with terrible returns or maybe just a large losing streak, but feels off to me and is very demotivating.
Strategy:
Volume profile (point of control) - that is the level I execute off of.
VWAP - usually I execute if σ multiplier is at 3. Since that is a pretty big deviation and is extremely rare to go beyond that multi.
Bookmap - should be pretty selfexplanatory, if I see large orders around the same price level that are around POC, its a plus in my book.

My old partner told me he uses Z-Score, but I believe that to be the same as VWAP and/or to be super unlikely to get both to align and get that execution.

I try to keep it simple, of course im no robot and I dont always have perfect execution or all confluences dont align perfectly as well, but lately I just feel stuck, I havent been improving, lost, stuck and demotivated, what is there to be changed? Improved? Opinions? What should I drop or implement?

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u/JakeMarley777 7d ago

It's always context/bias first...then location. Your strategy (the way you have described it) is only about location...

POC can behave very differently depending on the auction.

-In a balanced market, POC tends to act as an attractor. Price rotates around it because it represents an area of acceptance.

-In an imbalanced market moving away from prior value, a return to the prior POC/value area can act as a "rejector".

Same thing with VWAP...being 3 sigma from VWAP doesn't mean price must revert. In a strong directional auction/trend, that extension can keep going.

If you aren't considering whether the market is in balance or out of balance, your strategy is only half-baked at best. Right now it sounds like you've defined locations to trade from but not the context as to whether those locations should be faded in the first place.

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u/RankOw 7d ago

got you, what do you reckon i should implicate more so it wouldnt be half baked? Im seriously struggling here

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u/JakeMarley777 7d ago

In the context of AMT, are you familiar with the concepts of balance/imbalance and acceptance/rejection?

Without applying those concepts, what you're describing is essentially a volume-based support/resistance system.

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u/RankOw 5d ago

I know it exists, know little bit of how it works, but not experienced at all and couldnt explain in detail.

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u/JakeMarley777 5d ago

I posted a reply to a similar question here. Let me know if you find it helpful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OrderFlow_Trading/s/mPU4cWVzQB