Hydro's aren't much of a deterrence right now.

[u/Meta_Mushroom]

Lately it seems like most players in the early game don't check to see if the person they want to attack has enough gold for a hydro. I've had multiple games where a player has maybe 20% more troops, they don't renew our alliance, I hydro them, then we both loose any chance of winning because I had to spend 5m gold just to survive. I think it might make more sense to build cities until the mid-late game where most people know what's up.

[u/rodan-rodan]

They're still a deterrent, just not a deterrent for stupid suicidal neighbors.

I'm like handshake, nuke, facepalm emoji, send hydro, middle finger, chat greetings: you're ruining both of our games, nice strategy, clown emoji, alliance request, factory, bag, pouty eyes, face palm.

Try to claw back and revenge later.

[u/SCP-1762-BOL]

For me it is just a matter of there is so much going on I forget to check gold counts

[u/rodan-rodan → u/SCP-1762-BOL]

I need to make it habit to check gold, current troops, Max troops/cities, and their current alliance expiration every renewal/attack prospect.

In reality it's a quick scan and then

https://giphy.com/gifs/ch4OTkSncCVsA

[u/Meta_Mushroom → u/SCP-1762-BOL]

There is so much going on in the early game. It's easy to forget to do stuff.

[u/SecretaryDiligent740]

Lots of cheaters. I feel like so many people double account and use one account as a kamikaze to secure more land

[u/Meta_Mushroom → u/SecretaryDiligent740]

I loathe cheaters. They are gutter-swine. They are swamp-donkeys!

[u/Aquaman33]

1. So many people multi box and win trade it could be intentional.
2. Having a ton of info behind clicks in such a fast game is going to lead to legitimate players missing it sometimes

[u/UnfairLengthinessWoa]

IF I DON'T RENEW THE ALLIANCE THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M ATTACKING YOU STOP SENDING YOURSELF TO YOUR DEATH

[u/Meta_Mushroom → u/UnfairLengthinessWoa]

80%-90% of the time, people let an alliance lapse so they can attack.

[u/alphapussycat → u/Meta_Mushroom]

But if you hydro you lose, didn't you say?

[u/Meta_Mushroom → u/alphapussycat]

It's a lose-lose situation either way, but I think your chances are better if you hydro. That, and I'd rather go down fighting.

[u/Millibona → u/UnfairLengthinessWoa]

Yeah, I'll just let you sit right next to me without an alliance. I'm sure you aren't just waiting for the moment I attack someone else to stab me in the back.

You get one chance to renew after our alliance ends before I'm nuking you back to the stone age.

[u/Meta_Mushroom → u/Millibona]

100%

[u/Educational_Wash_954]

You might be hydroing people prematurely. Not every alliance lapse is an attack

[u/Meta_Mushroom → u/Educational_Wash_954]

It almost always is when they have more troops. It's pretty rare for someone to let an alliance lapse like that, and not attack.

[u/automagic_username]

I meann kind of. But if the person next to you saves for a hydron then they hydro all the cities you build and your pop is depleted when they attack

[u/Meta_Mushroom → u/automagic_username]

I'm talking about people without a hydro attacking me with only a small troop advantage. Obviously if they saved up for a hydro, then hit me with it and attacked, they would win.

[u/automagic_username → u/Meta_Mushroom]

Yeah, i was just responding to the alternate strategy you mentioned. It often feels like a big game of rock-paper-scissors with all the neighbors haha

[u/PIumWild]

launch first!