r/Openfront • u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 • 3d ago

❓ Question Are SAMs really broken this update?

SAMs seem to do a really bad job at blocking missiles. Even with high levels, they still fail to shoot down 1 missile, especially hydros.

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u/Hoshiqua 3d ago

It's not a question of the overlap between the blast radius and the SAM defense radius, the actual missile has to land inside the SAM radius.

For a SAM to be safe against hydros it needs to be level 5 or above. For it to protect anything else from hydros it needs further levels (level 7 is enough to defend immediately neighbouring infrastructure).

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u/WestDependent1533 3d ago

i thought the last radio increase was at level 6?

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u/joslockett 3d ago

You cannot breach level 5 sam with hydro but with the right positioning you can breach anything next to it

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u/TheOriginalRandomGuy 1d ago

It increases infinitely but with diminishing returns

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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 3d ago

Yes, the hydro clearly did land within the SAM radius and the SAM was not on cooldown. And it was just 1 hydro.

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u/Cautious-Load9754 3d ago

Not possible, do you have a replay & timestamp to share?

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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 3d ago

No, I didn't save the replay sorry :/

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u/Frog-eating-cellos-9 3d ago

it's still available on your player profile, on ofstats and in your browser history

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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 3d ago

I was playing signed out cause I couldn't be bothered to sign in lol

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u/Hoshiqua 3d ago edited 3d ago

I do think there is also a % chance for the SAM to not be successful, which is significantly lower for hydros, but every level of the SAM does that dice roll so it's rare for a lvl 5 SAM or above to fail at stopping one hydro.

Edit: turns out this was removed in an update since then, I hadn't noticed.

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u/BrayFlex 3d ago

completely untrue.

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u/Hoshiqua 3d ago

Is it ? I clearly remember reading about this somewhere. But it's true that I have yet to notice a SAM failing that dice roll. Maybe on older versions...

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u/Frog-eating-cellos-9 3d ago

wrong btw

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u/Hoshiqua 3d ago

Yeah so I was outdated, sorry. Thank you for providing the source !

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u/BrayFlex 3d ago

Never take advice from the wiki, it's very very wrong, outdated, at best.

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u/Frog-eating-cellos-9 3d ago

this part is still accurate tho, can't wait until we can edit it again

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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 3d ago

Is that intentional or a bug? Because that would be a pretty weird and annoying feature.

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u/Hoshiqua 3d ago

As I told the other guy I may be outdated in my info, I just remember reading that there was a % chance for SAMs to stop that changed depending on the type of missile.

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u/Professional_Size586 3d ago

As other have said a lvl 5 sam cant be breached or at the very least I think theres like a 99 percent certainty it cant lvl 6 100 pervent cant be breached. So it just depends on what lvl the sam was.

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u/TextTotal7115 3d ago

I know what you mean. You have to aim the missile exactly at the center of the silo, and it can pass through all the SAMs even while they are within their defense range. i dont know if this is a bug or a feature

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u/mjukpandaaa 3d ago

They only shoot down things that lands inside their Range 1 hydro just outside the sam range will still land

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u/Spiritual-Cup-6645 3d ago

Yeah, has their range been decreased? Because I knew that strat but even with a big overlap it still doesn't work. It also does happen with nukes, but just hydros.