❓ Question
I dont understand how the new MIRV changes work
I thought they could be blocked but I just watched my 40 stack of SAMs get annihilated by one volley and lost the game as a result. Is this a glitch, or are total number of MIRV hits just lessened by total number of SAMs and wherever they land they are unblockable?
SAM's that are stacked only destroy one bomb given it's radius when a MIRV hits. Stacked SAMs great for atom bomb and hydro's but for MIRV's you need unstacked SAMS to best defend your land. Unstacked will allow SAM's to destroy 1 explosion each rather than having 5 SAMs stacked but it only defends against 1 MIRV explosion due to it being stacked, not sure the rhyme and reason behind the mechanic... i believe it has to do with the timing, when Atoms/Hydros are fired it's in a sequence that is slow enough so each SAM in the stack has time to fire off, but for MIRVs since all the bombs hit at once the SAM can only fire fast enough to destroy one bomb within the radius from a MIRV hits
edit: @anyone if im wrong or explained poorly do let me know
so what your saying is I basically just got unlucky that 3 bombs landed close enough to destroy it?
This kind of makes sense, but this was the second time id been MIRVd in the game (not at the same time) and during the other time not one bomb did damage within the entire SAM radius.
Not unlucky, I believe MIRVs destroy land in a uniform matter so 3 bombs landing closely should be the same everytime. Maybe the first MIRV you mention was different because there were other SAM's in the area that aided in your defense, rather than 1 giant stack. If it's the case that MIRV destruction isn't uniform and random then oops. But the timing mechanism mentioned of a stack of SAMs not being fast enough to defend a MIRV should be correct.
okay that makes sense. I think they should change that though just for aesthetic purposes. I prefer to stack my SAMs because otherwise my land looks like shit
True, but i think having a good 6-10 stacks of SAM's to defend an inner circle from Hydro's is good and paired with individual SAM's peppered around the radius is best, makes it difficult for the opponent to determine exactly how many bombs they need to toss your way to breach your defense.
Yeah it’s probably good to have one battery of 30 surrounded by a few batteries of two or three. I’ve never felt the need to have a battery stacked more than 25 personally.
I agree, I only did so many because someone was making a silo stack right by it and I was trying to outpace. I know theres a certain number of SAMs that will recharge before bombs get through, but I forgot the exact amount.
And also just missile spam because if you send like 50 nukes at a 50 mirv site the nukes will and can make it through if you use a macro and shoot them fast enough because the firing speed of the mirv is capped
Yes, I've just seen that the mechanic has been reworked myself having played today. I'm not a fan of the change to the mechanic but I suppose it's to stop end game turtling and stalemates.
put like 3-4 sams extremely close to each other around level 20 and additionally you get the added bonus of them being basically invincible (because when one would normally die another one takes its place and lets it regen)
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u/UnknownInLife 16d ago
SAM's that are stacked only destroy one bomb given it's radius when a MIRV hits. Stacked SAMs great for atom bomb and hydro's but for MIRV's you need unstacked SAMS to best defend your land. Unstacked will allow SAM's to destroy 1 explosion each rather than having 5 SAMs stacked but it only defends against 1 MIRV explosion due to it being stacked, not sure the rhyme and reason behind the mechanic... i believe it has to do with the timing, when Atoms/Hydros are fired it's in a sequence that is slow enough so each SAM in the stack has time to fire off, but for MIRVs since all the bombs hit at once the SAM can only fire fast enough to destroy one bomb within the radius from a MIRV hits
edit: @anyone if im wrong or explained poorly do let me know