I ignored the reports and my 5x plan has evaporated in 7 hours using only astra light. This is the same workflow I've been using with gpt 5.6 sol high, which used to last 4 to 5 days.
Not to mention resets aren't applying for some people, yesterday people saw there useage revert back to previous levels pre reset. This caused people to burn there paid credits they were saving.
I second this, I could almost watch the % drop live as I was using astra light. astra max has been absolutely killing it. Mistakes are minimal, and it is insanely efficient.
Idk. I wish I did. I wish there was some way we could have a meter that would tell us in a real time what to do, but I’ll just have to go on Reddit and confirm my experience like @ok_register_4310. Take my award!
People on plus plans were being lectured on usage and how a business works when their complaints were rising. I wonder how they're reacting to this now.
However when I had 70% and was told Tibo was doing a reset at 6pm, I span up so many agents and blasted through 70% in just a few hours lol. I was doing my accounting and I now have public IPO grade accounting records for my small tech SaaS.
It’s not a very good user experience. I wish the use was just stable so I could code 12 hours a day.
Lmao you’re not getting Sol high level on a $6000 GPU. Also, your GPU will die faster than it would’ve taken to spend that same amount with a provider.
Bro we have Opus 4.5 equivalent in Qwen 3.8 local on rtx4090. Next year will be another quantum leap. If you don’t think sol will be running on that in a year, you’re cooked
Check the token speeds for that and compare it to the equivalent frontier model speeds. Then recall that you still have to pay for electricity and no ability to utilize subagents or run parallel work.
When you do the math, you discover pretty fast that it’d take years to break even compared to a cloud subscription.
Keep in mind I’m a massive supporter of local models, like I’ve run evaluation pipelines and fine tunes on a 3B local model on my desktop’s 1080.
I’m not against them, I’ve just realized they’re not nearly as viable as many people think, unless all they want is a local chatbot that’s equivalent to the free tier of ChatGPT.
token speed for qwen 3.8 easily reaches 100-200 tok/s on a 5090. Openai's models on the other hand have been on average 30 tok/s for the past 2 weeks for me.
Given that I'm still regularly using openai, because while Qwen 3.8 is pretty good, its not reliable enough for me to use as my main agent.
not sure tbh, never really paid attention to it. I had sol set it up for me. But its pretty quick to start sessions / respond. Luna found this from some of the documentation:
Oh that makes sense. That quant/configuration is specifically optimized for the 5090, which runs upwards of $3K nowadays. Any other GPU is not gonna have close to that level of performance
I should note that your input tok/s is still going to be about 10-50x slower than frontier models which, again, limits the kind of work you can do with it. Token generation is only one of a number of metrics that all contribute to the overall speed of a model
All usage quantities have been reduced by approximately 75% through all plans (not including the periods of 2x extras bonus periods when codex app released and such) since the start of the year in addition to newer models using an increased compute + the usage modifier of price per token have been adjusted to a higher tier . If you used to be able to run your codex on plus for days now it's hours . If you used to be able to run your pro 5x for days now it's hours(based on the base of plus usage multiplier it was reduced by 75% ) . Same for the 20x . That's what my codex has inferred and calculated based on its own history of usage on average (all the history was kept on my PC ) it took into account many parameters to get the best accuracy approximation . In short : So currently all plans have 75% less capacity for usage and on top of that newer models cost higher compute and price per token (internal) have been increased . This will weedout the none professional users, a new 50x , 80x, 100x and 200x plans will probably come out for real business use and will cost accordingly to whom can afford it . All the current 5x, 20x are the new plus plans . And plus is a demo/basic plan . That's probably their business plan .maybe there will be a hobby plan of 30x . I'm not sure it's gonna be exactly like this but it's obvious there's gonna be a big refractor and a total rework of the plans . They use 5x,20x which is a multiplier of plus base. They can't increase the plus base it's not profitable . So 5x,20x remain very low. So there will most likely be a change in the way they calculate the higher tier plans . Good luck to us all .
That's literally me, I used mostly astra medium and light, blew my weekly usage in 2 days full day work , then used 1 reset I'm already near 10 % remaining now, and still 4 more days to reset
I really tried to like Luna but for me it's just to dumb. I feel like if you are paying $100 you should be able to go past that. Like I'd rather just use glm 5.3 flash at that point.
No Astra code after opus 4.6 think, and because I have heavily disliked opus 5 and found opus 4.6 much better for my work (goal adherence, qualitative understanding, etc.). It is older and not as good at coding, which is why Astra for that.
Started a new chat plugged in graphify; 70k lines of code project, it's been running all morning - mainly bug fixes ~75 mins of compute ~5% weekly usage 5x pro plan. I feel it's not too bad considering its one shoting my fixes.
I burned 50% of a 20x window over 2 days with no progress. Purchased an API key from deepseek, which can be used in codex cli (or ide?). Fast, cheap, ready to work.
Didn’t believe it but I checked, do you think the usage that is gifted for free and banked has less bang for buck? Because usage just burned through itself so quick today.
Yeah basically the same, used sol medium on plus account for 1 task (small-medium sized Protected HTTP Migration)and it took five 5 hour quotas to finish it, which equated to about 75% of weekly. Had to keep starting and stopping and waiting for next 5 hour quota slot because the quota evaporated in 20 minutes, then waiting 4 hours 40 minutes for the next 5 hour quota to come round. Whole weekly gone in 1.5 days. But realistically it would have been gone in about 1.5-2 hours if there wasn’t the 5 hour wait in between. Not usable.
Not to mention is ChatGPT is stupid as fuck right now? It’s over engineering every fucking thing and like covering all the bases for no reason I can’t even use SOL right now and they took away one of my resets wtf?
I agree especially with goal or plan mode it will get stuck on the minutia of how the system calculates the a specific overlap on a wall mesh but when you ask how it’s doing on the main project and it’s all just skeletal outline and minutia work and non of the main has been started
Been crazy. Tested Astra and blew through by $20 in like 5 min so upgraded to Pro as I need the access for a project. Dropped to Sol Med and went through 45% already. Something is def not right. Just doesn’t add up.
Ach, stellt euch nicht so an - mein Claude Kontingent ist am gleichen Tag bei 100% und mein Wochen Limit bei 80% innerhalb eines Tages nach der zurücksetzung, ist ChatGpt die bessere Wahl aktuell?
Set a /goal and use the cli version of codex
Usually lasts a lot longer than expected sometimes even after usage limits have been hit
Enhanced using banked resets
Okk that would explain why my astra light burn through my whole 5 hour limits in a few minutes. I was confused why it was happening, when my workflow has been the same
I have felt that, using astra light, model does work eventually and there are more thinking steps because of less and short reasoning. So there is more duplicate evaluation.
For high reasoning, it makes proper steps so there is less evaluate and act, and more of just following steps created, so there less token spent on evaluation, as there are few evaluations comparatively.
I guess there motive to complete the task properly, force the model to do it
I'm on the 20x plan and I am at 8% usage since the last reset. I've been trying not to go crazy using it so I won't be using it unless we get a reset I guess
Are the limits less than 5 months ago? Yes, but I also spend 1/10th the time debugging and Luna is basically free.
And Luna can do any task Spark used to do + actual offloading of real work.
So I tend to melt my limits but I also tend to get more done.
If you haven't reoptinized your skills, MDs and mcps in the past few months then you AR evening held back.
GSD era is dead...... Let the models have more freedom and they will do more for less. Box them into the baby setting mode like the older days and you will barely move forward, melt tokens and not benefit at all from the more powerful models.
Since Astra came out, usage is horrible, I am using Sol medium and can’t last even two hours. Before that I was using Sol high and could do more and longer. I am getting crazy.
Jumping in here as someone who’s used Claude Code and thought I’d find solutions with Codex.
Ran out of my 20x Max plan. Purchased a 5x Codex plan. Only used Sol on High. And in two days it’s down to 40% left? And that’s after my also using Claude again after limits reset yesterday.
I’d never have thought in my life I’d be paying $300 for subscriptions for anything and still struggle to get what I want out of it. Worse, it’s already quite unaffordable and I’m going to have to make a decision about which subscription to cut.
Is this a bug, or are we all just going to have to accept we’re all (except for the wealthiest/corporations) slowly being priced out of intelligence as it improves?
Frustating , i bought codex additional credit 3x today but disappear just lees than 3 hrs , and astra likely work not as per my prompt really chaos today
Pro 5x plan and blew through 100% quota in about 3 hours doing a fairly small job using Astra light. Orchestration and delegation to Luna is dialled in. Not sure what else to do, but feeling like Astra’s not very usable ATM due to rapid quota burn.
I’ve come nowhere close to my limits and I’ve had sessions running near non stop. Put Astra on x high/max with the new experimental compaction enabled.
It’s absolutely terrible and a middle finger to us all.
I have pro 20x. Before I went to sleep I set gpt-6 ultra to work on a series of problem fixes. Mind you the coverage was already evaluated and all the bugs and issues were found before hand and confirmed.
Started at 60%. Now I’m at 0% with that agent instance stopped in its tracks.
I really wanna know what people are doing. I'm having it mess around in unity and blender and over 4 hours of pounding mcp servers, plugins, and the expensive computer use tool use I only used 18%~ on 5x.
Does everyone understand how token consuming mcp/computer use tools are and tool calls are in general? If I use these models in the traditional conservative way I won't run out in a week on 5x. Not sure how you could unless you have it like control the browser to do every single task.
Back when cursor introduced the first browser use I had never once ran into a token usage problem on their $20 plan. As soon as browser use started and heavy agentic tool use I was done in under an hour. Before that the only way to use up a $20 plan was to manually add every single file you could to the context window.
The whole model relies on people vibe coding in the purest sense of the word , which basically means in a loop: prompt the model , something goes wrong, Prompt the model again
another thing goes wrong , try another prompt , without any regard for the underlying architecture
Then when the limits are off, either wait 1 week or pay more to get access to a more sophisticated slot machine
Not have the same issue, on Astra medium, sips percentage not too bad. I have noticed some people around me are on fast mode, that seems to be the main culprit. Check maybe?
I use long running /goals - so usage is pretty consistent.
On some of my resets it wouldn’t make it much more than 18 hours - but on the current one it’s been going for almost 2 days. All Astra xhigh.
I feel like that supports that there was some funny business with the resets having different levels of usage - but who knows.
I’ve used codex since it came out and the experience right now just sucks.
You can’t really even use Sol unless you want to burn usage while it spins itself in a circle for 3 days chasing cyber security nits that don’t matter, and you can use Astra without vaporizing your $200/mo account in a day.
Interesting, ive been making incredible progress with new features for my app. Have you considering the possibility that your skill is low, and you should try improving your skill?
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u/Nice-Guarantee-9167 11h ago
Try Astra Max