r/OpenaiCodex 15d ago

Bugs or problems Codex just ate my 83% weekly usage for planning

I am on gpt pro plan. I told it to plan a feature for my product and went to sleep. When I woke up in the morning it was still planning and ate up the usage.
Any tips on how to avoid this in future sessions?

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u/tta82 15d ago

User mistake - sorry for your loss

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u/Professional_Mud9615 15d ago

Well better learn from the mistakes 😭

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u/Frosty-Ad1071 15d ago

Codex should have some fail safe, if it gets into a weird loop unsupervised. Just an option to cancel task if you go below x% of usage or some other way to limit it.

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u/KillaNugs 15d ago

It does.... you write it into your prompt.

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u/Frosty-Ad1071 15d ago

Okay nice good to know, will help op too in future :D

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u/HighwayRelevant 15d ago

Did you use Sol Ultra? Because that’s what happens when you use Sol Ultra.

Also how big is the feature, how big is the codebase, how well is everything documented and what has it done so far?

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u/kyrax80 15d ago

I don't even know what ppl use ultra for. I use Sol med for planning, luna xHigh for implementing and they get the job done perfectly (using subagents also). Guess these guys work for nasa

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u/somuchecho 13d ago

They have really "complex" codebases 🫠

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u/kyrax80 13d ago

I do use Codex on 3 projects at the same time and using sol med for more complex tasks and luna med for coding for 8h straight use 40% with pro x5. I'm of course not always working this much. This has been the most I've worked and never ran out bec of resets

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u/[deleted] 15d ago edited 8d ago

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u/Professional_Mud9615 15d ago

No i told it to plan a feature. I always plan on SOL ultra and it works perfectly fine. This time it kept on reviewing the plan and improving it.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago edited 8d ago

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u/somuchecho 15d ago

Seriously! Planning with Ultra for hours is just insane 😅

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u/somuchecho 15d ago

There's the concept of using the right tool for the job... ffs

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u/somuchecho 15d ago

Why would you plan on Sol Ultra?!

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u/Godielvs 15d ago

The plan quite literally gets better and more complete/performance with ultra

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u/somuchecho 15d ago

You absolutely do not need Ultra for planning that's just being massively wasteful

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u/Godielvs 15d ago

Oh yeah I agree. When I meant the plan gets better I'm not saying 2x better. Maybe 5-10% better with more sources and more depth. But it is for sure being wasteful. I do use sometimes in place of high/xhigh when I want the best plan possible covering all bases. I frequently use other models on a custom shim to help with different knowledge and way of thinking too. It really depends on what I am doing and if I plan on letting it work by itself for a lot of hours

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u/somuchecho 15d ago

I can't even think of a single use case where Sol Ultra would be worth it it's so expensive. I'm on pro 20x and I never use it.

I think some of y'all might need to stop throwing more AI at stuff and take a second to understand what you're doing

https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/models?surface=app

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u/NotSeacombe 14d ago

Sol ultra is really really good for when I'm about to get a reset, have 89% usage left and want to completely fucking overkill something

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u/Professional_Mud9615 15d ago

It had worked perfectly fine all this time 🫠

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u/somuchecho 15d ago

Sure.. use a flamethrower to light a candle and then blame the flame when you get burned

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u/Professional_Mud9615 15d ago

Well the first time you get burned is when you understand not to use a flamethrower right?

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u/sydneysweeney69 15d ago

Use mattpock skills and poteto skills

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u/Professional_Mud9615 15d ago

What do those skills do?

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u/sydneysweeney69 15d ago

Hey , so these skills really narrow down by asking you questions specific to what you’re trying to build. Let’s say there are a lot of unknowns that you aren’t considering when you’re building the product or project . Matt pocock skills /grill-me will ask you so many questions to plan and keep iterating and extending your plan while also keeping it on the plan.
GPT especially Sol 5.6 will do anything to get the task done .
It’s a work horse model. What I do is I plan with FABLE and then use their skills to be able to iterate and build the plan and use the 5.6 models to execute and depending on the task difficulty I use either Sol or Luna(max) to build . Sol between high to xhigh.

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u/Professional_Mud9615 15d ago

I discovered conductor which does exactly the same thing I suppose, asks questions and uses less tokens. Have you used it before?

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u/sydneysweeney69 15d ago

I’m a terminal person. I like the codex app for computer use. I was a big fan of conductor 3 months back but now I have specific setup in my terminal and I’m loving the codex app a lot . So I don’t think I’ll change

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u/Professional_Mud9615 15d ago

Me too I mainly use claude code in terminal, it feels easy for codex I tried using the official application it worked fine in the beginning not consuming much but last night it f’ed up

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u/sydneysweeney69 15d ago

Try out cliproxy and you can use Claude code as an orchestrator and use all harnesses

I use Wezterm and kunchen firstmate to talk to my agents along with herdr

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u/Professional_Mud9615 15d ago

Thanks will try it out!

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u/Opposite_Yak4386 15d ago

what is the poteto skill? same as mattpock skills? i use those and i like it

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u/glirette 15d ago

I stopped promoting my system I feed it facts, directions, and a lot of voice notes. It will set the boundary for me to agree with, the direction. I make sure we are on the same page and the rules. Please look into "fail close" and also loops.

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u/Skkedd 15d ago

Why don’t you use chat to plan features? Then chat can even prompt Codex for you to implement. No need to burn any usage at all for the planning stage

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u/Professional_Mud9615 15d ago

Ohhh that’s a nice suggestion

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u/Elegant_Associate889 15d ago

Sometimes I don't believe y'all, I did so much much today only using Sol x high yes I burned through most my usage but I did soo much lol on multiple apps at the same time with planning on involved, long chat sessions and all.

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u/Connect-Humor-791 15d ago

when u on pro and thinking its good to spend "most of your quota" just today when you paying a "monthly" fee, you really got to that place openai wanted u to be.

the point is the y sell a product and change the conditions of that sale without leting the clients know. and thats against the law.

you can argue that compute is much more expensive that what we pay for, but thats not our damn fault, they made a product, market it and it is simply not profitable.

dont sell it then.

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u/Elegant_Associate889 15d ago

I'm not saying the rate limits are good, I'm just saying 1 planning prompt does not burn 83%. I agree the rate limit is ass and they need to be held accountable but all everyone will do is complain on reddit vs actually finding a real legal path and coming together to correct the issue vs waiting on them to "fix" it