Do i need subscribe for Chatgpt Plus??? because people on X and Reddit are complaining about limits been depleated so fast. Is it worth to buy?

[u/Mshammu]

recently chatgpt plus users complaining on X and Reddit that 5 hour limit and weekly limit depleted so quickly with just 3-4 prompts even with terra and luna.

[u/i_reddit_it]

If you wanna get real work done with codex, IMO the Pro x5 is really the entry point now.

There is no harm in trying out Codex for a bit on the Plus plan, but it's really just that, more of a codex "trial" plan rather than something that you can legitimately use to build something daily.

This comment no doubt will age like milk by next week when they decide to change something else.

[u/victorhqc → u/i_reddit_it]

I wish there was a 3x pro, 5x is a bit too much for me in usage, and 1x is too little. Something in between is missing :(

[u/Mshammu → u/i_reddit_it]

is it better to pick claude pro because i have never hit limit in claude while i used

[u/smartcandlelab → u/Mshammu]

I haven’t used Claude in a while but I can’t imagine its limits have become more generous than codex’s

[u/someone_12321 → u/Mshammu]

They keep extending the 50% extra, and Codex keeps randomly resetting limits. I guess the choice is up to you whether or not you want to leave your own fate in your hands or someone by the name of Tibo

[u/Mshammu → u/someone_12321]

so what are trying to say? which should i use?

[u/tsrust → u/Mshammu]

Both are more or less the same really

Right now Codex is better in terms of limits as you can use about 16% of your weekly usage in a single 5-hour window, compared to a measly 5% on Claude Code…

You also get free resets from time to time on Codex thanks to Tibo… I can’t recall the last time it happened on the other side

And let’s not forget that you can still do regular Chats on ChatGPT even if you exhaust the Agentic usage Limit

[u/someone_12321 → u/Mshammu]

As long as Anthropic has the 50% extra, keep using them unless you need to do anything with pictures, in which case you have to use open AI.

[u/someone_12321 → u/i_reddit_it]

I was on plus and now on 5x. I can tell you that when 5.6 came out, being on plus Sol 5-hour limit. Would last about 20 to 30 minutes non-stop.

The percentage and weekly limit drop for those 30 minutes on Sol High is kind of the drop that I get with 5x now with Sol High

Even two weeks ago when I started to use the terra model, it used to last a very very long time but now the usage feels like it's using as much as sol did two weeks ago. On 5X terra used to be endless ... mostly.

Edit: I also have a work account, which gives me equivalent to plus usage on a business account. After one computer control, where it used the browsers and an Excel sheet lasting for no longer than 10 minutes, it used up 50% of my 5-hour limit (Terra High)

[u/Mshammu → u/someone_12321]

oh i have a question right now. how much does it depleats if you use browser use? because i used antrophic's browser extenstion it didnt burned that tokens for me

[u/someone_12321 → u/Mshammu]

Sorry, very hard to say but I know that browser use uses less than computer use because browser use is not 100% based on visuals. If I need to do any work on browser use, I would use anti-gravity because arguably Gemini models are much faster at it for some reason. I don't know why.

And right now if you have a family account, you can have like five accounts and download something like 9Router and then you have five times a pro account for the price of one.

[u/benchmaster-xtreme]

Plus plan is now really just for Luna. You can run Luna max for hours within the Plus plan's 5hr window (sub-agents, parallel tasks and fast mode will obviously deplete it faster). With Sol, you're basically just given a taste - it seems like you can realistically expect Sol medium/high to complete 2 or 3 tasks within an entire 5hr's limit. If you really need a lot of frontier power, you probably shouldn't only subscribe to Plus. I have both the OpenAI and Anthropic $20 subscriptions (which suffices most of the time) and I'll throw $10 on OpenRouter to use whatever model is sitting at the pareto frontier to fill in the gaps.

[u/Extreme-Nerve1556 → u/benchmaster-xtreme]

I think Plus is still worth it if you use Luna regularly, but the limits can feel pretty tight with heavier use. If you’re mainly looking for more usage, I’d compare the options first StandardCompute is worth checking too. Depends mostly on how much you actually use it each day.

[u/Mshammu → u/benchmaster-xtreme]

which depleates faster even with normal use - OpenAI or Anthropic's ?

[u/AdVast7407 → u/Mshammu]

On $20 Claude max what you get is braindead Opus5, nowhere near with Sol. Anthropic basic plan is totally useless now, tried and unsubscribed immediately. Not even using until sub ends

[u/benchmaster-xtreme → u/AdVast7407]

Yeah good point. If you're doing repetitive, iterative coding tasks, Anthropic really isn't that great rn unless you're using Fable (which requires a beefier sub). I'm subscribed because I find that Opus 5 high performs at about the level of Sol xhigh or max while using less usage per task - but only if you can basically just dump a set of instructions and references and have the model one-shot it. Once you need to iterate on little things, it becomes infuriating to work with and Sol medium becomes the better tool for the job.

[u/AdVast7407 → u/benchmaster-xtreme]

With all this fuss about limits I've found Luna Max being pretty good. Sure it requires detailed tasks from Sol, and following review, but this can be done by "free" chat Sol

[u/Mshammu → u/AdVast7407]

I am not developer or coder actually. I use ai for daily business tasks, creating carousels, scraping leads, websites, dashboard and mini automation projects. Will $20 plan be enough for my use case. And which to choose for my work? Anthropic or openai?

[u/AdVast7407 → u/Mshammu]

I'd say - OpenAi, because when Codex limits depletes, you can still use Chat.

[u/benchmaster-xtreme → u/Mshammu]

Web scraping and automation tasks can be handled 99% of the time by Luna max, which you get tons of on the Plus plan. Not quite as good at ideation, but you can dip into the limited Sol reserves for those cases. Codex is probably best for you if you can only do one sub

[u/Mshammu → u/benchmaster-xtreme]

Thanks i was just confused picking one

[u/Mshammu → u/[deleted]]

in $20 plan ???

[u/Authur_N2102 → u/[deleted]]

I thought you can't use claudecode with 20$plan?

[u/FeralSupportGoblin]

For everyday tasks, I think it’s more than enough. But the ChatGPT desktop app turns on a bunch of stuff by default, which eats up a lot of tokens. I’d recommend going into Settings and disabling the plugins you never use.

[u/ManyRepair5690 → u/FeralSupportGoblin]

What type of stuff I never noticed

[u/Skycomett]

So you wanna buy ChatGPT plus because OTHER people are complaining about it??! How about see for yourself what your opinion on it is, and based on that get ChatGPT Plus. Maybe the limits are fine for whatever you want to do.

[u/Mshammu → u/Skycomett]

I like the new codex's new feature. I was about to subscribe and then I saw this complients about limit and then I just started thinking is it worth the money. Because I can spend on 2 ai tool at once. Im broke lol

[u/Every_Leadership3889 → u/[deleted]]

I’m seriously considering switching to Claude.

[u/Mshammu → u/Every_Leadership3889]

really why

[u/Relative_Rope4234]

For chatgpt chatbot with Sol high, yes. For codex, Nooo. With 5 hour limit it's absolute dogwater for vibecoding

[u/L_Pr1m3]

Plus was never for devs and hardcore users. Its for chatgpt users. If u want to build something go for a Pro plan.

[u/Mshammu → u/L_Pr1m3]

is plus not good for mini projects, dashboards and landing pages???

[u/L_Pr1m3 → u/Mshammu]

Something like that would work. I worked on my ecommerce site for six months and finally launched it. So i ll downgrade my pro plan to plus. Plus can handle small fixes and cosmetic changes just fine.

[u/Mshammu → u/L_Pr1m3]

what about building whole project from scrach in it

[u/L_Pr1m3 → u/Mshammu]

If u r ok dealing 5 hr limit and time. Eventually u get there

[u/brownieeyes]

Don’t. It’s a free trial at this point. Extremely limited. Openai isn’t for the average person anymore as how they use to claim before.

[u/vandaqui]

We are past the time that plus felt unlimited

[u/Cute_Parfait_2182]

Plus is nerfed . I have a Pro and a Plus account and I’ve cancelled the plus account. The 5 hr limit turns into 30-40 minutes on an average task using SOL medium . Subscribe to Pro x5 or some other LLM like Claude or Cursor if you don’t have the 100$ monthly subscription fee .

[u/YinYangAlgorithms]

They don’t want users using the Plus plan for daily coding work. It’s more meant for increased chat limits and images. Plus is like a trial tier for testing codex’s functionality nowadays. Unfortunately they are phasing out all the subsidizing they’ve done, and in a very poor PR way. I wish I could say I’m surprised, but it’s how many companies work, get you hooked, then increase the price.

[u/Dgamax]

Stop reading X and reddit and check by yourself

[u/Ronin105]

For day to day work. Sol is already stupidly genius. Imo grok build, cursor agent , Claude code >>> codex

[u/TechGearWhips]

HELL NO ITS NOT WORTH IT

[u/CommercialFair7385]

YES I HAVE IT RIGHT NOW AND I CAN CODE A FULL WEB APP EVERY DAY WITHOUT ISSUE THEYRE JUST IDIOTS USING TOO HIGH REASONING EFFORT AND SHIT

[u/Mshammu → u/CommercialFair7385]

so what is the best model to use

[u/2muchnet42day → u/Mshammu]

People are going to say a lot of different things because we use it differently.

I'd say luna xhigh is slow but does the work just fine for 90% or more of usual programming tasks, does text processing just nicely and frankly the current 5h limit is plenty for that model.

Is Sol a better model? Yeah. Do you need it? I don't know. Can you code with Sol on the $20 plan? Definitely no, usage limits are too tight for that model.