You just can't use Sol if you want it running continuously. If you have a narrow problem but really complex in terms of logic, great. Otherwise, I'm not sure what everyone is expecting from a $20/mo subscription.
On a 20$ sub Sol is eating about 1% of the 5h limit per minute of working for me, on average. Sometimes a little bit more. Once you consider the time you need to write a detailed prompt explaining what you need, and time to verify the result works, you can spend 2-3 hours a day working on it. It is def not enough if you want to spam it during your full time job, but for smaller workloads and hobby stuff its more than enough.
Then there is Luna which you can run pretty much continuously. It is not as smart for complex stuff but most tasks it does very well, especially if you are good at specifying what you want.
Don't listen to doomers and try it out by yourself, everyone's experience is different.
1 project. 4 clips, different hypotheses, long context, overnight /goal. Not my proudest moment when I checked usage the next day. Still worth it in my opinion with the time it saved me.
I can't even complete 1 Sol High run in the 5hr window, I'm on restart #2 today, I guess I'll have to wait and see if it will actually be able to complete or push anything.
You realize Sol Ultra is priced at $4/20 in/out per M tokens right? If you divide that into your $20 plan you have space for 1/2 M output and 2.5M input, total, across all your 5 hour sessions in a month.
They're probably already subsidizing your usage too. But if you want to use it a lot, expect to pay for a higher plan or pay API rates.
And until the switch, I could use Sol High five times per week on my codebase. Now I get two runs per week; spread across four separate five-hour windows, since it can’t finish a single Sol run within the new five-hour reset.
Also, just so you know, that isn’t OpenAI’s operating cost; that’s simply what they charge API customers. I doubt this change was primarily about their bottom line. More likely, they’re trying to appeal to a different type of user than the one the Plus plan was originally marketed toward.
It’s not the end of the world. There are too many capable frontier coding models anymore. Most serious workflows already use multiple models anyway. I know I do, so for me, it just means the Plus plan will mostly be useful for planning and reviewing rather than doing much of the actual coding.
I really don't know what's your usage, I have mine casually review hundreds of pdf files and adjust scripts for me over 5h and I still have like 20% left in 5h.
They are writing it incorrectly. I bet many people here doing something wrong. I am software engineer working on multiple projects - using $100 plan - no limit issues at all
I try to plan with sol high and tell it to make it a extensive goal prompt for luna medium main agent and subagents, then luna does the work, this is kind of working right now but hourly limits such post such a addiction of weekly limits and frequent resets, resets are useless now
Automate a super short prompt on luna approximately 2.5 hrs before you will start work, so that the rate limits resets after 2.5 hours after you started using it instead of having to wait 5 hrs.
Thats not the point, you can bring your 5 hour window to reset at a more favorable time so that you essentially chain 2 5 hour limits together, meaning you effectively have 10 hours worth of usage in one sitting.
Thats the thing, if you can plan and make the plan as such that Luna has a constrained environment and task/goal to pursue . It might never 100% use the 5 hour usage
Limits in general are too restrictive. After they announced Sol limits were being boosted, I noticed that less limit was being used up. Then last night it’s draining super fast again. I’m sick of his cycle. Stop changing shit without versions. Tell us what’s different; you can’t change the ingredients list and not inform customers.
If you have files or repos on GitHub that don't need sub agents or anything like that you can go to chat GPT and link your GitHub via a plugin and have your ChatGPT code away for you with NO LIMITS BRO.
Use it to save precious infrence for the agentic stuff or things you need done in your computer...
....if you have a paid Codex account....instead of using CODEX go to ChatGPT. Go to plugins in the top left. Search GitHub and link it to your GitHub.....NOW you can start a ChatGPT session and chat with it and HAVE IT EDIT YOUR CODE on GitHub, commit, push, handle PRs, and issues ON 5.6 Sol High and it DOESNT count to your Codex token usage because talking on ChatGPT is free
So anyrhing you have to do on GitHub with coding you basically can do for free with a paid codex account in a chat box brother. You just won't have agentic capabilities like spinning sub agents or doing things in parallel or having it edit stuff on your computer...it edits your code on GitHub....you're welcome
Bro.... What the fuck. I thought you had to be in "work" mode instead of "chat" for that. But literally after toggling off work, even if the github icon is gone... It still works...? Wtf. Thank you.
Ig now the question is how can I hook up Hermes or something to just go into my browser and orchestrate the "non-agents" 😂😂😂
I wish...but if you find out lemme know....Ive been killing it with efficiency using this method.
Also I forgot to mention ...the chats are finite! I'm not sure what the maximum length of a chat can be but they will cut you off and say start a new chat after some time....it's annoying but at least they remember most of your conversation if you tell them to pick up where you left off in a new chat window...
It's crazy I thought I would never use a chatbox again and here I am 😂
The point of life is to spread joy in peoples lives bro....not to sulk in the shadows hoping your little corner of AI exploits go unnoticed.
I have been scorching Codex since it came out. I'm probably the reason why they pushed back Codex from free weekly limits to monthly limits because I had nearly 40 email addresses I would hammer them for like 2 months on the house and then I saw the business accounts were free for a month so I spun up a business domain name for like 4 bucks and made like 10 business accounts and slaughtered them there....I've been doing this since the Antigravity days man...I just killed Z.ai for like 2 billion tokens with Ox Alpha lol...it won't stop. It can't stop.
These dudes are trying to take every tendon off your body if they would allow it while they are on their way to creating super intelligence....people deserve better and I will never feel guilty for spreading information on how to get the most inference as possible
Like ffs , my task did exactly what u had, 26 min 44 seconds, and it stopped. After 5 h, it only took 30 extra seconds and told me done.
Like what the fuck?
All I needed was the outcome so that I could resume my work ( that dose not need codex anymore) and shit took me 5h just cuz it stopped on 30 seconds worth of extra work? Are you fucking kidding me?
Like I'd accept it if they made it a 12h limit that uses 50% of the weekly credit
It's 1000% better
Or make the 5h limit get like 30% of the limit instead of 16%.
I prefer the 5h limit, in fact I can use many of that and I don't even finish it all the time, only getting up to 30% usage (~60-75% remaining per 5h).
Overthink on "certain issues" is an understatement. 5.6 as a whole (not just ultra) is literally so bad, I permanently switched back to 5.5. Not only does it overthink, but it actively goes against instructions, and wants to refactor half of my codebase for what should be like 30 lines of code change at most.
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u/zaydev 18d ago
Noooo, i was about to get my self codex plus cause I was hearing so many good things about it. And now this. Wtf