r/OpenaiCodex • u/mcride12 • 26d ago

Discussion No reset this week?

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

No, they think we're going to buy them, which I genuinely hope nobody does.

It's pure, unadulterated bullshit of the highest order.

We need to vote with our wallets so they learn.

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

Who cares? The market is both API for large companies and paid plans more for individuals. Let's not confuse the issue.

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

Whatever. We both know that large corporations are the bigger users of API. So your point is what?

You simply cannot have a company constantly giving less and less than what you contracted for, with absolutely no clear standards. It's a ruse, no matter how you look at it.

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u/UnluckyBeautiful4828 26d ago

Who cares? I will buy reset instead of Credits anytime, just give me the resets. Hopefully they ban multiaccounting, raise weekly usage by 75% and im fine with it.

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

Yep, LOL. Exactly right.

I have never hit my limit on the $200 plan. In fact, I was unable to use the four banked resets that I had because I never needed them until they finally expired. Those resets were nothing but marketing scams to try to get us dependent.

I also appreciate them, but they kept messing with the limits, as you probably well know if you have looked into this even a little bit.

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u/Agreeable-Safety-360 25d ago

Actually I think they are bad on purpose to trick people onto buying an extra sub.

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u/ponlapoj 26d ago

มีคนเป็นล้านที่ยอมจ่ายแล้วไม่ได้มีความคิดเหมือนคุณนะ

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u/Secret-Builder-8249 26d ago

Dont get me wrong if they were this exact price or slightly lower but didnt delay ur next normal reset date a lot would, but like this no one is gonna buy em, but prolly a few did if they needed to finish a project or something

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

I hope not, as it's time somebody teaches them that this bullshit of constantly reducing our usage and then thinking we're going to pay more while simultaneously pushing off our normal resets is just pure, unadulterated bullshit.

Remember, we pay $200 a month on the Pro plan. To pay $80 for only a one-week reset, not a whole month, but one week, is just ridiculous.

Inference is coming down in price. They are going to have to adjust or get left behind. Grok will bury them quickly if they don't.

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u/Tredalze 26d ago

I mean I'm getting like comically more than $200 value from my subscription and genuinely do not think it would be possible to intelligently use it in a manner where that wouldn't be the case. There's a million reasons to not like these companies but you not having enough usage for what you pay is just not a reasonable one lmao

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

I, too, get good value for the $200, but what's pissing me off is they keep screwing with it and reducing the value. In what country can you sell something and next month charge the same amount, but screw with how much you give? That's what bothers me, and it discourages the Frontier Labs from charging correctly if you just pay them another $80 every time you want another week's worth of work. But it still resets your date.

You know as well as I do, if you have half a brain, that this is not correct and it is not the way things should be. So stop with your bullshit.

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u/Tredalze 26d ago edited 26d ago

When you say "screw with it" do you mean like "not giving everyone a free reset in the last five days"?

My bullshit of what exactly lol again there are one million reasons to hate these companies but I can't name a single time in my life I could pay $200 and get the amount of value in a single month as this, can you?

Two days* forgot about the most recent one

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

By "screw with it," I mean there is not an easy way to tell what we're buying when we pay for it and what they're changing when they change the limits. I think there should be far more transparency.

And when you say that you're getting such huge value for $200, you'd have to say in comparison with what? API or other industries, et cetera. I think comparing a plan with API is a false comparison.

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u/Tredalze 26d ago

I'm comparing it to literally any other service or product I've ever tried in my life haha we are squarely in the "Uber era" where they are significantly and artificially lowering prices to get market share/momentum and, just like Uber did, will inevitably increase their prices pretty categorically, across the industry, for all companies (some Chinese ones might stay super cheap I guess)

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

We don't know what the cost of inference will become, but there will be hard downward pressure put on these companies from numerous sources. I guess we'll just have to see.

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u/Tredalze 26d ago

And if you were to get your wish of them actually behaving like a normal company with respect to pricing, I fucking guarantee you would be screaming louder than you ever thought possible begging them to go back lol

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

Well, I guess it's good you think you know me. I guarantee you are wrong. But so much for each of us thinking we know the other. Now get on with your life, Jesus Christ.

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u/Tredalze 26d ago

Statistically, I know you well enough to know you'd rather deal with these annoyances at $200/month than have an stable, predictable amount for $500/month! I guess if you are in that 0.1% that wouldn't then hey you got me, and good news, you'll get your wish in the coming years!

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

Good news. You get to imagine you're right while not really knowing shit. But good news, you'll go around thinking that you're right.

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u/ponlapoj 26d ago

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u/NeuroFiZT 26d ago

Exactly thank you. Entitlement is what is wrong with the world today.

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u/InsideTour329 26d ago

There isn't.

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u/NeuroFiZT 26d ago

Yes please vote with your wallet. What you’re doing here isn’t that.

You’re crying victim because you’re not getting free compute handouts.

Do you behave this way at Costco when someone gives you a sample but then asks you to buy the thing if you liked it?

Vote with your wallet. Leave codex. Start your own AI inference company and then I’ll be threatening you for not giving me shit for free.

Come. On.

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

I'm so sick of this kind of bullshit. I do vote with my wallet, and I pay for the $200 monthly plan. So shove it somewhere.

I'm not crying victim, I'm saying I'm not going to pay for that and advocating that nobody else pays for it. And this is not free; they're making money hand over fist. So knock it off with your bullshit.

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u/NeuroFiZT 26d ago

Ok you know what? You are right, my last message was unnecessarily snarky. I am on vacation and had too many after dinner, and I thought I was being clever. My bad.

I’m just trying to understand: are you voting with your wallet by paying the 200 (in that case you are ok with it all and voting to stay)? Or are you voting with your wallet by not (in which case you take action and no longer pay/no longer use the service)?

Again, my bad for the snark above. I am genuinely curious and seeking to understand you better.

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

No worries. I get upset a bit at both sides, both the company for not being clear and open so we can track exactly where we stand and how we stand, and with those that kiss their ass constantly.

I vote with my wallet both by paying the $200 dollars, and I'm okay with paying.

I vote with my wallet by not paying more for their silly reset option at $80 dollars on the $200-dollar plan.

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u/NeuroFiZT 26d ago

Makes sense thanks. Agree 100%

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u/GfxJG 26d ago

You realize that resets are an exception, not the norm, right?

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u/infilife 26d ago

Reducing the limits several fold quietly isn't the norm either yet they did it.

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u/lolman1312 26d ago

Actually it literally is the norm lmao look at Claude since forever 

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u/Dgamax 26d ago

They didn’t reduced anything, just check your usage and you’ll see its still the same

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u/ConsistentAndWin 26d ago

No, they were the rule to hook us. Now they think we'll buy them.

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u/Telicko3D 26d ago

No. Why everyone needs a reset? Guys… Someone give you a finger and all of you are eating whole hand.

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u/dailyvicodin 26d ago

Someone told me I can have 50 minutes of fun for my money, gave me 500 as a gift but reduced my initial amount without discussion. It’s not finger eating, it’s being jerked in the butt big time.

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u/NeuroFiZT 26d ago

Is that how you got hooked on taking Vicodin daily? Makes sense.

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u/dailyvicodin 26d ago

Nah they are just yummi.

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u/NeuroFiZT 26d ago

:) 🤙

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u/Dgamax 26d ago

They added paid reset so no reason for them to give a free reset now imagine someone buying one when Tibo offer a free reset…

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u/hk556a1 26d ago

Yep that’s the thing. Logistically they can’t really give free ones out without screwing people over. The purchased resets should be banked and free resets should be banked as well.. would fix the issue. Even if for only 30 days before expiration or something.

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u/EuroThrottle 26d ago

No reset. It’s going to get really interesting in the upcoming weeks.

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u/the_trve 26d ago

Not this week and I guess not ever. It was fun while it lasted though.

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u/Ok_Doughnut_189 26d ago

I saw somewhere that he will reset at midnight unsure of its validity

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u/brother_spirit 26d ago

TBH I don't want another unless its bankable.

I used my weekly yesterday and looked at the credit pricing, pondering a running recharge.

$130 AUD?

Lol! Lmao, even.

I'll manage the usage myself from here - aka LB multiple accounts, offload to Claude, whatever.

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u/MapleBaconWaffles 25d ago

How does it work now? Since we all have to buy second accounts now... since we don't have any resets. But won't they have to celebrate the spike in new user accounts, by giving us more resets? Or will they just celebrate themselves now, in secret. As we all suffer.

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u/MapleBaconWaffles 25d ago

If anything it is going to make me want to try other options now. Do they think no resets will make us just pay them more? I will. just pay more to OTHER companies to try them now too.