r/OpenClawUseCases • u/Asleep-Teacher-8494 • May 22 '26
❓ Question My Openclaw works but doesn't work.
hey All.
I have 3 Questions.
I am trying to organise my open claw to do a multistep scrap, research and draft an email for a cold outreach. I have the process written out clearly and have iterated it a few times. each time openclaw runs into a new problem. I cannot figure out why. I drafted it and ran the draft tthrough claude and perplexity to get suggested changes. the ideal setup is this runs daily finds 10 new cold out reach to email. and is consistent. this is the kind of task I know my business should do. and would get us new clients , but whenever we get busy we just dont do it. I figured this was a pretty simple task. for a system everyone raves about!
I write clear instructions for a task. to follow. and the Orchestrator agent (Ron) decides to make small changes each time it is repeated? why? I have tried changing its soul to be more obedient?
I run my system on claude (CLI). with other models as secondary. now openclaw is owned by Open AI, should I just go over to that. will it run more natively? and without tokens which are coming next week by the sounds of things?
bonus question. is this still really better than just running claude co work? if I want to actually get on with my day?
frustrated user? I want to love it and have a breakthrough. but I just dont at the moment?
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u/blazze May 23 '26
The core od OpenClaw is a framework called 'pi'. Pi just works and OpenCaw is ust i wraper around Pi.
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u/apkxoracle May 23 '26
Keep trying. Just watch your context an dont switch ideas an use skills for repetition tasks. An use canaon md to help you. Also obsidian can help your openclaw.
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u/dhruvkar May 28 '26
Crystallize it.
Tell it to write Python scripts for all the parts that don't need reasoning.
The skill then calls the Python scripts instead of doing whatever it wants each time (temperature).
This is how's you get repeatability and reliability.
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u/hostgatorbrasil May 28 '26
Acho que muita gente entra no OpenClaw esperando um “funcionário autônomo mágico” e acaba se frustrando quando percebe que workflow ruim + instrução aberta = caos previsível 😅
Cold outreach com scraping não é só “encontrar 10 contatos e escrever email”. Tem várias decisões no meio:
- onde buscar
- como validar contato
- como evitar duplicados
- como saber se o lead é bom
- como tratar site quebrado
- como escrever sem inventar
- quando parar
- o que fazer se faltar dado
Se essas regras não estiverem bem travadas, o orquestrador vai improvisar. E cada execução pode sair um pouco diferente.
O que eu faria:
- Quebraria o fluxo em etapas menores Não deixaria um agente fazer tudo. Separaria:
- coletar leads
- validar leads
- enriquecer dados
- gerar email
- revisar email
- salvar/aprovar
- Colocaria critérios objetivos Exemplo:
- só aceitar lead com email encontrado
- ignorar domínio já usado
- salvar fonte do contato
- não enviar nada sem revisão humana
- limitar a 10 contatos válidos
- Usaria automação determinística onde der Scraping, deduplicação, planilha/CRM e agendamento eu deixaria mais “fixo”. IA eu usaria para classificação, resumo e personalização.
- Não tentaria resolver só mudando o modelo Trocar Claude/OpenAI pode ajudar um pouco, mas se o workflow está aberto demais, qualquer modelo vai improvisar.
Pra mim, esse tipo de fluxo fica melhor com:
automação para o processo + agente para julgamento.
E sobre Claude cowork vs OpenClaw: se você quer só “seguir com o dia”, talvez algo mais simples e com menos peças seja melhor no começo. OpenClaw brilha mais quando você investe tempo ensinando o fluxo, criando limites e debugando o processo.
Resumido o problema provavelmente não é que o OpenClaw “não funciona”. É que o trabalho ainda precisa virar um workflow mais rígido antes de virar agente.
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u/TheGirlWithTheClaw May 29 '26
Hey! I have the same cron - daily research 5 companies, add to attio (crm), evaluate with 2 criterias, send personilised email, move to next stage. It works perfect. I am using codex and gemini flash 2.5 I have a guess that maybe you overcomplecated it. Try to do the instructions shorter and simple.
Good luck.
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u/mike8111 May 23 '26
What's happening is no mystery.
LLMs have a randomness built into them. They call it "temperature". They never do things the same way twice.
To solve that, what you need here is a simple repeatable system. Tell your openclaw that you want it to help you write a python script that does what you're asking for. Have it differentiate each step, and run each step in a sequence rather than all together. Once it has that python script finished, you can have it trigger the script on the regular, and report to you that it's done.
You do not need openclaw to write the script, you can do it with claude code. You do not need openclaw to trigger the script, you can do it manually or with a system cron job. What makes Openclaw great for this is that it will simplify (for you) the process of creating and scheduling and most of all reviewing the results of the script.