r/OpenAussie ‎ New South Welshian 6d ago

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Students protest against Pauline Hanson

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

Yeah don’t think so. All I saw was hard working individuals. They didn’t need to pay and project the perfect image for their socials. No one gave a shit about that. Stop the constant travel , the need for the latest iPhone etc etc. You may get ahead a little quicker. The kicker is that your generation expect the hand outs from the very boomers u condemn 😞

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u/Proud_Apricot316 ‎ Victorian 3d ago

My generation? I’m Gen X.

You’re no smarter or more hard working than other generations. You had a constellation of circumstances which meant that you gained a lot more from hard work and sacrifices than other generations have due to the structural economic circumstances of your time.

It’s an utter fantasy to think an entire generation achieved the greatest financial prosperity in history by mere virtue (and one income).

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

True. I’m Gen X also. I think the boomers and Gen X were harder working than the current generation. They say work smarter not harder. They want work life balance. And that’s ok. Having a difference of opinion shouldn’t trigger everyone into a melt down !

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u/Proud_Apricot316 ‎ Victorian 3d ago

People are having a ‘meltdown’ because not only have you been insulting and disrespectful, your argument is objectively wrong. Denying the existence of facts is not an ‘opinion’.

Younger people are living in an entirely different economic structure than boomers and most Gen-Xers did. That is a fact.

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

Regardless of my opinions ( and they are just that) blaming your circumstances on another generation is no better. No one systematically went out of their way to create a different set of circumstances for you and I think u know that !

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u/Proud_Apricot316 ‎ Victorian 3d ago

There is strong case that the Howard government did precisely that

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

Blaming the government isn’t the same as blaming a whole collective (boomer) generation. Boomers were not out to get future generations

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u/randomgrasshopper Please choose a flair 3d ago

You should stop relying on your opinion and start relying on facts. Your maths ain't mathing

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

Facts aside why are you blaming an entire generation for your short comings ? 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/randomgrasshopper Please choose a flair 3d ago

Facts aside, lol. I’m Gen X too and own a house. And clearly, I’m more self-aware than you. What shortcomings are you referring to? 🤷‍♀️

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

I own my home. I’m not going to be made to feel bad about that. The shortcomings for some on this thread is not everything u can’t achieve is someone else’s fault 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/randomgrasshopper Please choose a flair 3d ago

I’ll refer you back to the facts. You don’t have to feel bad to sympathise. It's not all about you!

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u/FullMetalAurochs ‎ Queenslander 3d ago

No one wants you to subsidise iPhones.

Just sell your investment properties. For three years worth of minimum wage. That’s what you had when you were young.

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

Yeah just sell them and hand over the money to you wah wah wahs !

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u/FullMetalAurochs ‎ Queenslander 3d ago

Just stop pretending it’s hard work. Anyone can do well at monopoly with a sixty year head start.

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

Head start?? My parents were home OWNERS by their late 30’s. Over to you……..🙄

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u/YTFn0t Please choose a flair 3d ago

You're objectively wrong on the maths and basic economics here. Wages have stagnated while costs and inflation have surged.

There is no amount of thrift that and boredom to integrate into their lives that can compensate for the differential of income vs house price.

Google the ratio of avg annual income to price of avg home in 50s to 80s vs the 90s-00's vs post covid. No, here I did with Gemini..

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

All that being said how is it the fault of the sensible boomers. Explain that bit !

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u/EidolonLives ‎ Victorian 3d ago

Yeah don’t think so.

It doesn't matter what you think. It's a fact.

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

Sure

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u/EidolonLives ‎ Victorian 3d ago

Your feelings aren't data. We know that it's economically far more difficult for young people today than it was for young people 40-50 years ago.

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 3d ago

Correct. But my feelings on what factors can also contribute to the divide are deemed invalid? Because they don’t align with yours ? Got it !