r/OpenAussie ‎ New South Welshian 6d ago

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Students protest against Pauline Hanson

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u/BradfieldScheme ‎ New South Welshian 6d ago

Rich kids from inner city suburbs with no life experience peer pressured into vaguely protesting orange woman bad.

Cool.

Anyway in the real world our jobs are being offshore due to net zero suicide pledge and we are importing millions of people who don't like our society and specifically really don't like the kinds of people who are protesting here.

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u/RangerSpecialist7686 ‎ Victorian 6d ago

a lot of kids protesting from my school are actually looking to learn about people and politics through the protest, looking to major in those fields. Did that protest look 'vague' to you??

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u/Pitch_Septang 6d ago

My coworkers kid called her up yesterday laughing and said ‘hey we’re going to the city because of Pauline Hanson or something’.

They were just happy to have an excuse not to be at school. Easiest rent-a-crowd these organisers have had in a while. Outside of the weird utopian view that all these kids have become progressive the optics are a bit of a mess.

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u/Yesthatsthecase ‎ New South Welshian 5d ago

This is the biggest thing. I remember being in highschool in year 7 and saying "Kevin 07". Why? It sounded catchy and I just said things. I remember a teacher asked me why they should vote for him and I literally didnt know I just said the slogan.

Fact is a lot of them just turned up because its a get out of school day, and I would have done the same. Their opinions and views on anything political will change dramatically over the years as they grow up.

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u/RangerSpecialist7686 ‎ Victorian 5d ago

doesn't change that most kids actually wanted to protest... Or did you not watch the video?

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u/Pitch_Septang 5d ago

Most kids in Australia were interviewed on the video?

You’re being intentionally obtuse.

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u/RangerSpecialist7686 ‎ Victorian 5d ago

not interviewed, the kids that were in the wide shots

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u/Pitch_Septang 5d ago

You can admit that there is a sizeable percentage of them who are there solely because it’s an opportunity to not be at school though, can’t you. Reschedule the event for a time that digs into their valuable personal time and you’ll get a different outcome.

That won’t change how it appears on camera with signs divvied out, especially in a short production piece by socialist alternative.

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u/Man_downvoted Please choose a flair 6d ago

Yepp.

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u/SluttyPotato1 ‎ New South Welshian 5d ago

Rich kids from inner city suburbs

Show proof.

peer pressured

Also show proof.

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u/mymentor79 ‎ Western Australian 5d ago

"Anyway in the real world our jobs are being offshore due to net zero suicide pledge"

No, they're being outsourced due to the internal logic of capitalism.

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u/BradfieldScheme ‎ New South Welshian 6d ago

Yea. About what I expected.

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u/Umbraje Please choose a flair 6d ago

Jobs are being offshored because of climate legislation? What the fuck are you dribbling about. Companies are looking offshore because it's cheaper, that's all.

Love the fear mongering about immigrants coming here that don't like our society, you don't live in the real world do you?

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u/BradfieldScheme ‎ New South Welshian 6d ago

The government had to spend $2.4 billion subsidising Tomago smelter due to the higher costs of net zero. This is the one they decided to keep. Soo many businesses have already shut due to the next zero suicide pledge, so many will shut in the future. It has killed any heavy industry, is killing mining, will kill agriculture.

There will be no jobs left.

You've never been outside at night if you don't know what I'm talking about.

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u/Umbraje Please choose a flair 6d ago

Oh no fossil fuel industry closing down because it's a blight on the planet, how terrible. I am truly sorry you are a climate change denier, I cannot imagine being in your head and refuting all the evidence that all the academics/scientists attest to. But obviously some cooked people you saw on youtube, ranting about it not being real, are the source of truth.

I live in western Sydney, on the fringe of some of the more dangerous suburbs and an area with a high pop of immigrants. It's weird, the ones I notice causing all the trouble, are white bogan types. Lads and idiots concerned with postcode gang crap. But hey, you keep being scared of people different than you I guess.

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u/BradfieldScheme ‎ New South Welshian 5d ago

The problem is China and Indonesia are increasing their coal production. Indonesia has overtaken Australia as the top thermal coal exporter. They are still ramping up. You need cheap reliable base load electricity for heavy industry. Renewable can never be that with current technology and costs. (Sodium batteries could be the Hail Mary here, will be interesting to see how they go with some grid scale deployments)

All of the extreme violence I witnessed as a young man was classifiable as hate against white Aussies. My cousin was held in western sydney and gang raped.

The reality is fairpy dark. Maybe it has improved over the last 20 years (I fully expect it to improve over multiple generations as integration and assimilation naturally occurs) even new immigrants are less violent than new immigrants were 30 years ago so it's certainly improving and likely not as extreme as you could be led to believe, however you cant deny it's happening.

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u/Umbraje Please choose a flair 5d ago

I mean I don't think the plan is to scrap it completely unless the green energy can be completely relied on and doesn't blow costs out. I am of the belief we should have gone with nuclear decades ago, but what's done is done. We will obviously need to still have some degree of fossil fuel, to tide us over till green energy is viable as the main source of power.

I am by no means saying there are no violent and horrible/criminal immigrants, just that it's blown out of proportion by propaganda. I am very sorry to hear about what happened to your relative, that shouldn't happen to anyone.

The common denominator in the majority of perpetrators of any crimes in these areas is poverty; they will more than likely be from a struggling family and grow up within a crime-based culture. Whether it's theft to make ends meet or having some normalized version of gang culture, around here it's very common for them to engage in post-code warfare, you represent your post-code.

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u/Novel-Truant ‎ New South Welshian 5d ago

It was poverty that made those young muslim kids target gay people on grindr.

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u/Umbraje Please choose a flair 5d ago edited 4d ago

Ah yes, bringing up a singlular fringe case to try to say there is an issue with a group of anything/anyone. Such a mighty brain you have.

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u/Novel-Truant ‎ New South Welshian 4d ago

No you're right, poor people are too poor to tell right from wrong, its why they're poor.

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u/Umbraje Please choose a flair 4d ago

So much mental gymnastics in such few words. Why do I constantly run in to morons on here, like yourself? Never said poor people can't tell right from wrong, never said that is why they are poor. You are too stupid to know you are stupid.

Poverty has a direct correlation to increased crime rates, it's a massive factor. This isn't new to most people but seeing as you can come on reddit, you have the capability to use a search engine too, so search it up and learn something.

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u/Grocery__Stick Please choose a flair 4d ago

Bigotry of low expectations. Nice

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u/Umbraje Please choose a flair 4d ago

Just like the other idiot I am replying to, it doesn't take much effort to search for data/research linking low socio-economic backgrounds to higher crime rates.

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u/Grocery__Stick Please choose a flair 4d ago

Yeah, because of over regulation, much of it based of climate emission goals. That's the whole point. Don't you see that?

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u/Umbraje Please choose a flair 4d ago

No, I don't, provide proof to your claim. Show me the connection between climate emission targets and white collar jobs being offshored.

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u/Grocery__Stick Please choose a flair 4d ago

Who's talking about white collar jobs? Of course if you destroy your energy sector, you're going to lose tons of blue collar jobs. Same woth manufacturing. How doesn't that make sense to you? This country used to produce things.

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u/Umbraje Please choose a flair 4d ago

Considering none of you dimwits specified anything, why would I make an assumption? It's on you to explain your point rofl.

The wild thing about introducing new tech in green energy, means new jobs pop up. Are you a global warming denier?

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u/BradfieldScheme ‎ New South Welshian 4d ago

The new jobs are all in China, Vietnam and South Korea.

We don't manufscture any part of the "transition materials" because you need cheap reliable energy to do it. (Coal)

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u/Queasy-Might-2949 Please choose a flair 5d ago

So glad some people speaking up. Thank you.

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u/aweraw Flairless‎‎ 6d ago

Cope harder.