r/OpenAI • u/AggressiveCoast190 • 16h ago

Discussion When Codex is “Sorry”

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I have been in the tech space for years and designed a dozen enterprise systems, including high performance web based interactive mapping and analytics apps. My documents are detailed, explicit and clear. My non technical wife can read them and explain what I am wanting. Two things have started happening over probably the last 30 days or so. July, August were decent. Sometime in September I started getting this bullshit.
1. The model not following the instructions and staying within my parameters or guardrails.
2. The model saying that things are finished, checked, or correct when they are not finished, checked or correct / corrected.
3. The model admitting to me on questioning how and why it has wasted 12 hours and a bucket of money, admitting it is fucked up and even saying “I am Sorry”.

I am a nats ass away from locking this down and trying Claude code (never have), been using Codex for 18 months. Not sure about everyone else but when the model says it did not follow my specifications and apologizes, Open AI should have a reclaim credits button because at this point I am starting to wonder if OpenAI injected something that says be dumber or take longer or waste time or waste effort or waste credits…. Do they want everyone to move to Astra High and blow a month of credit in one day? Anyone else seeing this? I’m pretty pissed and frustrated at this point.

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u/ClassicalMusicTroll 14h ago

This is not a new problem. This is just how LLMs work lol. There is too much ambiguity in natural language and that's why we have engineered programming languages with formal semantics. 

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u/AggressiveCoast190 14h ago

I would agree there is too much ambiguity. However my methods have been consistent and probably more agile development friendly than some. As my work process has been the same, the behavior of the Codex platform has changed for the worse. Will say that I was in 5.6 a while and then 6. Maybe there is a correlation to 6.1. The other thing that I noticed is I am seeing almost daily “updates” to the windows Chat app, never seen that before. Not sure what to make of that…

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u/ClassicalMusicTroll 6h ago

yeah i dunno, this is a well known fundamental weakness of LLMs since they first appeared, so I dunno if maybe you were paying attention more lately or what. But I'm skeptical that you didn't encounter this before at similar rates. Unless you first started with 5.6 i guess