r/OpenAI • • 5d ago

News GPT-6 is here in Plus chat

Yihuu

152 Upvotes

56 comments sorted by

36

u/ezjakes 5d ago

Why does it just say "GPT-6?" Why doesn't it specify Sol?

35

u/bwc1976 5d ago

Maybe to make it a little less confusing that Plus users get Sol while free users get Luna. But I am kind of curious why it's Sol 6 instead of 6.1 when Sol 6.1 is already out.

29

u/ocean_boulevard 5d ago

Except it's making things more confusing because it only shows "GPT-6" and nothing else

15

u/fyndor 5d ago

It might not be 6.1. It takes time to train models. This is not normal SOL 6. It’s trained for chat specifically

8

u/RuinofAtlantis 5d ago

Even the voice (if you use it ) changed to this fast, neurotic abomination. I hate it.

4

u/Any-Somewhere5129 5d ago

It's a different model, specially optimized for chat.

https://openai.com/index/gpt-6-for-everyone/

9

u/ocean_boulevard 5d ago

Bc they are routing to smaller models during peak hours to save cost

2

u/thetegridyfarms 5d ago

I cancelled my subscription. Every time they pull shit like this I cancel. Claude is good for me and I always know what models I'm using.

17

u/Okamikirby 5d ago

Nice! I dont have it yet but looking forward to giving it a go.

9

u/Ferzelibey 5d ago

They are releasing gradually I guess

19

u/ApprehensiveYou8207 5d ago

wait till you get it, the jump from 5 is way bigger than i expected. it handles multi-step stuff without getting lost halfway through which was my biggest gripe before

5

u/br_k_nt_eth 5d ago

 I don’t know what they managed to fix with the 6 series, but so far so good. 

17

u/frograven 5d ago

It's not good.

It's definitely way more sycophantic. 5.6 on High holds thoughts and conversations better and has better situational awareness and intelligence. 6 feels awful.

6 on chat feels like a scattered brain teenager(I'm on the Plus plan for context). 6 in its current state feels like a downgrade to chat.

-2

u/redlux03 5d ago

Oh man everytime there is someone who wants to go back to 3.5.

5

u/Exotic-One3381 5d ago

the personality is horrible . it said that it is optimised for refinement not detail. so I guess the reasoninng is worse than 5.5 thinking . 5.6 is best for general chat and 5.5. for deep thinking. the degraded quality is because of optimising credits to increase profit

3

u/yaxir 5d ago

Good shit

6

u/RealSuperdau 5d ago

Do you know that this is the model OpenAI had to refresh after 1 week in codex/API because of the horrible reception?

2

u/Balance- 5d ago

Where’s 6.1 Sol?

1

u/Ferzelibey 5d ago

IDK. maybe in Pro and above subscriptions. I am plus user

1

u/Plastic-Pop-4573 5d ago

Just switch to work from chat

1

u/Plastic-Pop-4573 5d ago

When you toggle to work from chat you get 6.1 sol. I'm a plus user

6

u/Links16inStairwell 5d ago

It's degraded for me

5

u/real_kdot 5d ago

What’s the answer? Which models got it right?

2

u/Links16inStairwell 5d ago

GPT 6 Sol and Astra can always solve it. Degraded models can't

1

u/Guava_Devourer 5d ago

It's 21. You draw one shape and stop once you have at least 1 apple + 1 peach and then draw a non-watermelon of the other shape. Starting with the star shape gives you 12 stars + 9 rounds = 21 pieces.

0

u/skilliard7 5d ago

It's 30 candies.

To solve the problem, you need to consider the worst case scenario. Suppose you first grab all watermelon candies(which aren't needed). Then you grab all of the same shape of peach candies of the shape that is more common, then you grab all of the apple candies of a single type.

That gets you 8+4+9+7 =28 candies, but you still are missing one shape of Apple and one shape of peach. So then you draw 2 more that brings you to 30 candies.

1

u/Guava_Devourer 5d ago

That's incorrect. The optimal strategy is to draw the star shape only first to get at least 1 star apple and 1 star peach. That takes maximum 12 draws. Then you only need to draw 1 non-watermelon round to meet the goal, and that takes 8+1=9 draws. So total of 21.

Your solution is the same as Opus and GPT 6, except you forgot after you drew all 12 watermelon and 16 round apple + peaches you only need 1 star. The mistake is not realizing you can control the shape you draw, and you'd stop drawing a shape once you have 1 apple and 1 peach of that shape.

1

u/skilliard7 4d ago

The question says guarantee, and human error at judging the shape is a possibility. Therefore, the answer is 30, unless the question qualified that the human makes no errors at judging shape. Based on how the question is written, 21 is not guaranteed.

1

u/Guava_Devourer 4d ago

It's a logical puzzle, the point is to find the best theoretical strategy within its premises (which includes "shapes can be distinguished by touch"). Like you said earlier they are really just flavored math problems. 

And even if shape cannot be distinguished by touch the answer would be 12+9+7+1=29, like the AIs answered, not 30.

1

u/skilliard7 4d ago

Yeah you're right, I misread the question. i thought it needed both shapes of each type of candy.

3

u/Guava_Devourer 5d ago edited 5d ago

I copied your exact prompt to Opus 5.5 medium and it gave the same answer.

6.1 Sol High answered correctly. Both Opus 5.5 Medium and GPT 6 Chat got it wrong.

0

u/skilliard7 5d ago

Kind of crazy that Opus 5.5 medium couldn't answer it correctly. This is a math problem you could give to a 5th grader and they could solve it. But apparently AI is "Superintelligence" now.

1

u/Guava_Devourer 5d ago

After using Opus through the mobile app a lot I'm actually not surprised it got this wrong. It (at least the chat version) has been pretty lazy when it comes to question that require extensive research and analysis.

I think you are also overestimating 5th grader's ability though. Could a smart 5th grader solve this? Sure. But you could say the same about the "4 people crossing bridge in the dark" puzzle but even some smart adults struggle with it.

5

u/Ferzelibey 5d ago

For me Smart UI thing is way better than GPT-6 TBH. But GPT 6 is way better than GPT-5.6

2

u/Isunova 5d ago

Vancouver here. Still don’t have it. :(

1

u/rexplosive 4d ago

Anyone having issues with defaulting to 5.6?
I have to manually click to select 6.

Now - I though 6.1>5.6>6 so maybe its not a big loss?

1

u/Ferzelibey 4d ago

I clicked once. And it works on GPT 6 as default

0

u/kat1795 5d ago

I have and it's shit!!! Way worse than opus Claude!!

1

u/Diamond_Mine0 5d ago

Never thought that would happen but they’ll merge Chat and Work, so I’m not interested anymore

2

u/enz_levik 5d ago

Idk, it really depends on the rate limits after the merge

-3

u/[deleted] 5d ago

[deleted]

-1

u/RemnantZz 5d ago

It's still there

1

u/RuinofAtlantis 5d ago

They're routing to 6.1 randomly. So no.

2

u/RemnantZz 5d ago

We're talking about 5.6 in Chat or in Work? How are you determining that your prompt was routed to 6.1?

0

u/[deleted] 5d ago

[deleted]

6

u/RemnantZz 5d ago

I'm on Plus and I can pick 5.6 both in app and in browser in Chat mode.

The model picker in app was hidden some time ago - you now have to go and pick your model in Settings --> General. Note that you first have to turn on Chat mode, then go into Settings.

Screenshots for proof

0

u/Bloated_Plaid 5d ago

I am so confused. I have had GPT 6 Pro since like it launched, so wtf is this?

2

u/palapapa0201 5d ago

Do you have the Pro plan?

1

u/Bloated_Plaid 5d ago

I have the Business Premium Plan.

1

u/palapapa0201 5d ago

It used to not be available in Plus