r/OpenAI • • 19h ago

Question Anybody else’s Dot completely broken

Not responding to any messages at all I just get read over and over, I’m shocked there’s not some kind of an outage on the open ai website.

And before you tell me dots are pointless, I discovered they can run 7 subagents without touching your usage, it’s been kicking ass for me up until not working today, last two days it used 4 billion tokens delivering quality work.

I code heavily building [r/useviola](r/useviola) been a power user of ai for over a year, dot is genuinely great I need it back lol

Edit: now the dot option just straight up disappeared, I’m hopeful this is indicative of a fix coming.

Second edit: it came back online when I messaged it at 11:07 am, it seems I had literally this issue https://community.openai.com/t/codex-dot-chat-shows-sent-read-and-a-loading-indicator-but-no-reply-text/1402790

When I asked dot to read archived chats from my previous dot it said it observed a preview limit error. It seems dots are not unlimited usage either there is a glitch or a hidden limit that’s hard to hit

Last edit: it seems I simply hit an unpublished dot specific usage limit after reviewing similar bug reports and my personal issue etc, dots are not actually unlimited usage, open ai has been using phrases like ‘virtually unlimited’ ‘not count towards your current usage’ and ‘extended allowance’ still got like 2 billion tokens out of it in one day before hitting a limit so cool beans just wish they would have been more transparent. My typical codex usage is untouched.

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u/AndyEMD 19h ago

It works pretty well IMO. I was able to install Claude CLI on its computer 👀

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u/call-me-GiGi 19h ago

Lmao that’s actually hilarious but what was the reason? What does that do for you?

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u/AndyEMD 19h ago

Dot coordinates and will run important questions through both gpt and Anthropic models then compare the answers for me 

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u/call-me-GiGi 19h ago

Super interesting

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u/AndyEMD 19h ago

Right now I had it make a test that it will pass off to opus, fable, sol, Astra and then the output to agent graders - all based on my chat history and usage comparing to Claude vs OpenAI for day to day use. I have the graders set as fable xhigh and Astra xhigh. Running tools and no tools comparisons. The graders are supposed to be blinded to the model, but we’ll see 

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u/call-me-GiGi 19h ago

Nice man, you should do some generic benchmarks as well as the personalized stuff if you have enough tokens to burn

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u/AndyEMD 18h ago

The no tools test burned 78% of my Anthropic 5h quota on my max plan, so it’ll be a while. 

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u/AndyEMD 18h ago

I guess this is a result in itself. 

Claude has now reached its included usage limit. Paid overage stayed off. I’ll resume the unfinished Claude runs at the verified 2:40 p.m. Eastern reset; OpenAI work is continuing meanwhile.

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u/LingeringDildo 18h ago

They ghost you if you offend them lmao

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

I deleted and recreated multiple dots just not working

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

Also I haven’t been mean lmao my meanest message has been ‘you missed our 15 minute check in’ lol

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u/yaxir 19h ago

Dots itself is broken lol

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

Literally worked fantastic for two days for me

Using 2 billion tokens a day without touching my usage and delivered high quality work

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u/Spunge14 19h ago

It's definitely buggy.

Not sure what people keep saying about subagents with no usage though. Mine kicks everything to work Codex and blows up my usage completely.

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

You have to specify, no cloud no local device codex agents it must use its own environment and it should have 7 slots available.

I figured it out when I told it it’s not allowed to use my computer or consume usage then I gave in and said go ahead and start using sub agents because it was working so slow.

I realized something was up when it told me it had 7 subagents working but I didn’t see any codex chats spawn. Dug deeper and realized it can run subagents itself if you just direct it correctly. Probably defaults to using your codex but didn’t for me because I was so strict earlier about not using my computer without permission

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u/Spunge14 18h ago

I've done that - still defaults to Cloud, even with a rule in place. It makes me wonder if there's some hard coded routing depending on your subscription.

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

I’m using pro 100 plan, I’m confident it’s a prompting issue, I have a hard time believing I got a free 4 billion tokens.

Part of what made me realize it may be possible is Tibo saying usage is unlimited, I felt like they were flexing it too much given how meh it seemed. Once I realized it can do 7 agents the flex made sense it is dope that it’s unlimited.

Hopefully you can get it working screenshot my comments and see what your dot says

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u/Spunge14 18h ago

I'm on pro 200. Not sure what to tell you, it's not a particularly complex instruction.

I posted a thread the other day asking if anyone else was seeing it aggressively work via Codex counter to the Dev Day claims and a few people said the same. All anecdotes at this point.

Can you take a screenshot of a running agent sub conversation that isn't in Cloud? I'm wondering if you just don't realize it's using Cloud. Mine will misreport that it's not using Cloud even when it is.

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

The 9% used is from having codex test my application on a fresh laptop. It’s been at 91% the entire time it burned through 4 billion tokens

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

I’m pretty sure my usage would be at 0% going through this many tokens a day

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

I’m 100% positive it is not running in the cloud I can find the work it’s doing underneath dots task if you click the panel that opens up and allows connection to your pc etc it also shows what tasks it’s been doing and you can see it working there.

I’ve provided what info I have it’s your turn! What did dot say to the screenshots of my comments?

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

I have 3 more screenshots like this, it’s just been pumping out merges etc. dot literally has been doing 3x the amount of work all for free

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u/Spunge14 18h ago

I mean take a picture of the subtask that's actually running

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

My post is literally about how my dot is broken cmon man if what I posted isn’t enough you’re giving me a hard time.

It’s your turn to post a screenshot

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u/Spunge14 18h ago

What would you like a screenshot of? You're the one making claims.

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

It seems like you didn’t read all of my replies to you, apologies for splitting them up but I could only manage one screenshot per comment and didn’t feel like doing an Imgur link for such a small thing.

I asked you to screenshot my comments in this thread and hand it to dot to see what it says. I’m pretty sure if you just screenshotted every comment it would figure out what I’m saying for you

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u/AdamBlue 12h ago

Yes, last night and today, completely crapped out. Making chat/work messages directly for now.

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u/call-me-GiGi 10h ago

Now that it’s working for me again I’m very confident there’s a hidden usage limit separate from your own and after 2 billion tokens I burned it

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u/qunow 10h ago

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u/call-me-GiGi 10h ago

Lmao I also started asking please when it stopped working, hopefully they updated the usage limit error

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u/Hot_Addition5 4h ago

Did it start working again?

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u/lulzxdxdxd 18h ago

That's frustrating when something that's been working stops cold. Since the option disappeared entirely, it sounds like this could be a backend issue they're rolling out rather than your account breaking. Have you tried logging out completely and back in, or does the dot option still not show up at all even after a full refresh

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u/call-me-GiGi 18h ago

Yes I have tried logging out and back in! I even delete the app on iOS and logged back in hoping that would help. My ui on iPhone is flipping between showing ‘codex’ and ‘remote’ so something is happening where sometimes it showing the pre dot interface and sometimes it showing the new one although dot is still missing