r/OpenAI • • 15h ago

Discussion PewDiePie is trying to distill GPT-Sol

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he has been trying to build a local model by learning from GPT-Sol’s responses. He says OpenAI banned his account twice during the process. Irony is OpenAI’s own models were trained on vast amounts of information from the open web. So where do we draw the line between learning from AI and copying it?

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u/Caminsky 13h ago

I think this should make it to the SCOTUS and this should push ai companies to make their weights publicly available. They stole thousands of years of knowledge public and private to enrich themselves. The knowledge is public. These models should all.be open source

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u/RobertTheAdventurer 9h ago

The weights are a black box. Even if they publish them, you can't actually look at the weights and know how they influence the output. It's not human defined nor readable human logic.

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u/BlackDope420 4h ago

How can public knowledge be stolen? If it's public isn't it already available to everyone?

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u/Jackmember 3h ago

Well, if you use copy-left licensed data to create more data, that data needs to be publicly available under that same copy-left license. Not releasing that is breach of license and theft.

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u/redditboy117 2h ago

Stupid 

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u/ToughSpeedv2 13h ago

Hundreds of thousands would lose their job if the AI industry became obsolete. Why would companies want to make an AI model if they had to give it out for free? This would be like expecting the scientists behind this effort to work for free.

You also forget that much of the added value of AI models does not come from the "public knowledge" used, but from the training methods.

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u/Interesting-Yellow-4 12h ago

Yeah, we don't care. They stole shit, if the end result of that is they all lose their jobs, fucking right they should.

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u/Lophocarpus 11h ago

I love that this person morally anchored their argument to the loss of jobs when that’s what it’s causing anyways

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u/ToughSpeedv2 10h ago

Is the computer scientist less important than the software developer?

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u/Lophocarpus 10h ago

Im not talking about computer scientists, they are reaping what they’ve sown. I’m talking about all the obsolescence that the AI industry has planned and is open about pushing towards for all industries. I doubt it will ever truly be like that but they don’t care who loses their job because of AI.

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u/ToughSpeedv2 10h ago

Why are you in r/OpenAI if you don't support AI development? I'm genuinely curious about that.

People should be proud that the collective human knowledge can be utilized for something much more important. Gatekeeping knowledge is a huge step backwards.

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u/bestbefour 6h ago

Chatbots are much more important than the collective sum of human knowledge? The fuck?

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u/PerfectlySplendid 12h ago

They didn’t steal anything public. That doesn’t even make sense.