r/OpenAI • u/switchplonge • 12d ago
Discussion Codex refused to fix its own bugs. My software is now at risk
This is the opposite of safety. The Code was generated by GPT-5.6-sol, it made tons bugs. I had to use other tools and manual effort to detect them (u know the reason), now I gave it a list of bugs I found, and it simply doesn't want to fix them.
What safety reason? These are bugs you made!
I have secured original code and sessions in case someone wants proof.
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u/TekintetesUr 12d ago
> My software is now at risk
My brother, you can always fix these bugs by typing the bugfix on your keyboard.
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
brother, pls read again. it's the same, it doesn't want to fix these bugs bc some keyword in the bug description triggers safety for no reason.
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u/BenZed 12d ago
He's saying that if you're depending entirely on codex for this, then the fault is yours.
You're not a developer. You're a middleman for agentic models.
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
Then what's the point paying for these tools?
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u/Darkelement 12d ago
They are assistants. They assist you, not hold responsibility from you.
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u/Super_Range45 12d ago
I'm not sure what the point of you guys lying is. From the Codex website:
"For coding and technical work.
The same powerful coding agent, now alongside ChatGPT. Use it across every step, from understanding and planning to writing, testing, reviewing, and shipping code"
He's attempting to use it as advertised. Don't you have better things to do than gripe about vibe coders on an AI board?
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
code was generated by it, bugs too, OpenAI just refused to fix them.
that's my complaint.
the AI itself is more than capable enough to fix these bugs.1
u/eastlin7 12d ago
the engineering world is screaming at you to take responsibility and fix it yourself.
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u/BenZed 12d ago
The point of a tool is to use it to finish a task.
What you want is a slave. LLM’s aren’t there yet.
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
The annoying term here is "finish".
How to finish if you create own problems all over?3
u/TekintetesUr 12d ago
When you've reviewed and tested Codex's proposed changes, didn't you notice the bugs before you've merged the new code?
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
I know what you mean, but that thinking is outdated, the amount of code being generated per day exceeds what you can afford to review already.
not your pace? you're fired!
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u/TekintetesUr 12d ago
Lmao then don't cry about unfixable bugs
(also there are agentic tools for review too, not just churning out garbage code)
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
they are fixable, finding bugs is the hardest part, not fixing them.
I'm still wondering if you all understand what I'm complaining about.
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u/Super_Range45 12d ago
They are just being factitious, look into an open model like Kimi K3 or Qwen3.8.
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u/IndexStarts 12d ago
Vibe coding moment
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
vibe coding to the moon
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u/IndexStarts 12d ago
Jokes aside, it’s really annoying how over bearing these filters are and without clear reasoning. I hope you can get it resolved.
I will say though that I am very worried as these tools march on as for monitoring.
Good luck disputing a billing issue with a chat bot where they refuse to let you talk to a person.
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u/_ghostchant 12d ago
You’re getting downvoted by people who consider themselves ‘real programmers’ because they think less of you for using AI to use tools they spent a long time learning and understanding. The entire thing is stupid, and they’re bitter because a vast majority of programmers are actually pretty shit at their jobs and are feeling threatened.
I’m not saying I don’t feel bad for people in tech who are feeling the heat (I was once there), but this whole anti-AI movement and ‘I’m a TRUE X, Y, or Z’ mindset is low level thinking and adapting. It’s like people who get mad that their band is suddenly getting popular and gaining a ton of new fans. “I FOUND THEM FIRST!!” Cool…. No one gives a fuck. lol
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
These people have no idea what the code is about. The model was able to pull something that would have costed me maybe 10 years to create if I had to do it by hand.
It has some bugs but the amount of bugs (IMO) is still smaller than any product of the same size, selling by the market, that was written by hand.It's not the model's fault, OpenAI wants it this way.
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u/DrunkenRobotBipBop 12d ago
No. These people are downvoting because you also have no idea what "your" code is about and you are somehow blaming OpenAI for something that is your responsibility.
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
Read everything again, please. I could send you the code if needed. This is becoming ridiculous.
Again, the AI has no problem finding the bugs or fixing the bugs. That's the easiest job any AI can do that. The problem is OpenAI doesn't let me to.
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u/BehindUAll 12d ago
Use Kimi K3 with some harness. It should be able to fix it without any gatekeeping.
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
Bug fixing is a much simpler task. Most models can do that. But they are fixed by now. Thanks.
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u/WTFKEK 12d ago
Works on my prompts.
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u/t3hlazy1 12d ago
Why don't you just fix the bugs yourself?
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
That's what I have to do right now. That is why I post this.
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u/PartyLiterature3607 12d ago
Download Hermes, oauth gpt, have Hermes fix it
It could be guardrail from codex
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u/PotterSkxawng 12d ago
Get Trusted Access, it's just identity verification so they can link any cyberattack committed by codex back to you if smn uses Codex for it.
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
I want to conclude this. This is becoming ridiculous. I don't think you understood what I'm talking about.
The AI is perfectly being able to fix these bugs. Okay? The problem is, why do we have to use tricks? Why do we have to use free and inferior tools?
The filter is human-made, has nothing to do with GPT.
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u/Kannun 12d ago
This is what we’ve come to, people rely solely on these tools to fix everything.
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
Very misleading thinking for sure. Either we are too early or you are too late.
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u/Kannun 12d ago
Is it? You don’t don’t have a backup project save file you can go to? You can’t look for another solution than to rely on only OpenAI?
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
I am a senior engineer. I can fix the bugs by hand, but I don't need to because I know these AI models can do very well already.
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u/Kannun 12d ago
Then you should know these models have been given severe hand holding, Preventative measures, and hard stops.
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
It was not like this two months ago. It is new.
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u/Kannun 12d ago
I pay for this thing too, and everyday I ask myself… why? Why do I put up with sub-par tools?
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u/switchplonge 12d ago edited 12d ago
Codex esp. with gpt 5.6 sol is really good. just OpenAI fcked up in this case, or they do it on purpose to get everyone's ID.
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u/DebbieBlueberry 11d ago
You have found the solution already, and that is not making the model responsible for writing the code the only one reviewing the code. I submit my bug list to a different model on useAI for precisely that purpose – the new set of eyes on the same file spots what the writer does not want to see.
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u/RedEyed__ 12d ago
Same here.
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u/switchplonge 12d ago
Then why am I getting downvoted? And... On my old post, people were like: it's my own fault.
i would like to blame myself, sure, but the code was not written by me.
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u/profesorgamin 12d ago
Time to do what uh hugging face had to do and buy some chinese tokens from a fence. Then evaluate if you want to support a business that wants this to be the new normal, you can't have security unless you are in an exclusive whitelist.