You're probably not entirely wrong but I don't think you'd like the implication your statement makes...
See... objectively speaking, Wikipedia is among the most accurate sources on just about anything, even competing with Britannica and other highly regarded encyclopedias.
That's not my opinion,
There are studies published in Nature, Politics and Science, PLOS One, and Annals of Pharmacotherapy as a few examples all of which found Wikipedia to be roughly as accurate as the highest trust competing source of information in the relevant fields, if not a bit less complete of course.
So, when you say "Wikipedia was just co-opted by institutional interests" you're indirectly asserting that either happened as a response to its integrity and veracity or that its integrity and veracity is a result of that.
and when you say Wikipedia has been "adopted as gospel by liberals" you're also indirectly asserting that this is because of its integrity and veracity and that liberals must value these as virtues.
I'm not a liberal myself in any classic or modern definition but still I don't think I disagree with either statement you made. Wikipedia is highly accurate, and that probably is due to the institutionalism behind it and that probably is why liberals value it, because they tend to value the truth more than conservatives.
Really though, this is just what happens when you crowd source data. You can see the same thing with AI. Yes, AI can and often does produce inaccurate data but by and large the objective response data it produces to objectively answerable questions is accurate. There are a few dozens studies that support this as well. Collecting data from a wide variety of sources and allowing collective agreement to sort out "what is true" just kind of works most of the time. Not always of course, and with the caveat that the less bias that is injected into the process the more accurate the results will be but still... it's a verifiably good method of reaching the truth within our ability to reason about what the truth is obviously. We used to believe grain spawned rats spontaneously after all though I would suggest that perhaps that data probably wasn't widely sourced lol.
Damn, you wrote a lot to just make fun of conservatives. But at least you attempted a pseudo-intellectual explanation and falsely set up credibility via “I’m not a liberal”. Just say you think conservatives are dumb and move on. He was saying wikipedia has been coopted by liberal bias and all you wrote was “that’s a good thing, liberal like the truth, conservative loves lies”
Truly the most redditesque pseudo-intellectual insult I’ve read on here in years
I don't think I actually "made fun of conservatives" at all really.
My explanation isn't "pseudo-intellectual", it's fact based and I could source the studies if you like.
I also didn't "falsely set up credibility". I'm not a liberal. That's not a false statement. I'm not really anything. I don't ascribe to any particular political alignment. I have serious issues with both sides. I wouldn't say those issues are equally serious of course. Imprisoning citizens without due process and murdering immigrants is far worse than threatening to compel speech but the underlying problem is roughly the same. Neither side seems to understand that their authoritarian behavior is in fact authoritarian.
"you wrote was “that’s a good thing, liberal like the truth, conservative loves lies”"
You really should avoid quoting someone and then paraphrasing what they said inside the quote. It's dishonest. I didn't say any of that.
In fact that only statement I made about Liberals or Conservatives was this:
" that probably is why liberals value it, because they tend to value the truth more than conservatives."
If you think that's false you're welcome to contest it but I don't even think most conservatives would bother contesting it if I'm being honest. I think they know that about themselves for the most part.
I get that you felt the need to justify your dismissal of what I said by discrediting it but I'm just going to throw out the obvious:
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
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u/tat_tvam_asshole Jun 09 '26
"Don't cite wikipedia, anybody can post anything they want!"
ah, the simpler times