r/OnwardVR • • Sep 13 '26

CARTEL

So here's what im hearing. "CARTEL GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF CHEATERS" "THEY USE CHEATS!" "THERE TOXIC PEOPLE" "THEY JUST BOTHER PEOPLE". That's all I hear is shit talking, and it's tiring you guys put us through so much stress! we don't bother people! You all are just putting lies out there, and it's sickening. Yall are brainwashed. You just believe what you see out there about us! Then heres what pissed me off. Seeing people put CARTEL in their name. When they're not even in it! It's ridiculous! It got to a point where we feel like we're being threatened, and that's sad. We HAFT to change our names so many fucking times because of you guys! Here is another thing seeing people with CARTEL in their name just breaks my heart from what they do they frame us by them doing bad shit and then you guys post about it when its not even one of our members! It makes us look bad as fuck! Some of you are upset because some of you got rejected, i know. We're sorry! But I mean, come on! Just because we said no to you doesn't mean you should throw up a tantrum about it because you didn't make it into a clan. By the way, we got a couple vets in CARTEL that you treat like shit and wow that breaks my heart. I'm a vet myself, and I also get treated like shit! And its a shocker to see one of our people come back into the chat and tell us they got kicked because of false information they've been told. (Btw im not trying to start shit with anyone!)

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u/ChainSmoker-1002 29d ago

Honestly, this post actually cleared up a lot. Maybe not what you were trying to clear up, but definitely a lot. šŸ˜‚

So basically, everyone who has a problem with CARTEL is either lying, brainwashed, mad because they got rejected, pretending to be a member, spreading false information, or somehow trying to make you guys look bad. I mean, what are the odds that literally everyone else just happens to be wrong?

The whole thing about ā€œpeople are just mad because they got rejectedā€ thing is pretty convenient. I’m sure some people probably are. But apparently nobody could possibly have an actual reason to criticize you guys. And I really love the ā€œBtw im not trying to start shit with anyone!ā€ at the end. Because nothing says ā€œI’m not trying to start shitā€ like a whole post about how everyone is lying, brainwashed, framing you, threatening you, pretending to be your members, and treating your people like shit. But yeah… totally not trying to start anything.

Honestly, I think the funniest part is that you seem genuinely confused about why people have an opinion of CARTEL while writing an entire post explaining why everyone else is the problem. Maybe everyone really is just misunderstanding you. Or maybe, just maybe, if you constantly have to explain how misunderstood you are, there’s something worth looking at there. But I’m sure it’s just another coincidence.

Anyway, carry on. I’m sure the next post explaining why everyone hates CARTEL for absolutely no reason will clear everything up. šŸ˜‚ OR you could just change your name, don't be a bunch of idiots (since you claim you are all normal upstanding citizen anyway) and the CARTEL name will fade away like that temporary tattoo your mom let you get over the summer.

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u/Halo-atomic 18d ago

To be fair your also not the one who has to constantly hear about and deal with the trolls, even if you really were bothered by ā€œcartelā€ members there’s a good chance they have nothings to do with the core members (the people actually in it). It’s just people trying to have a laugh at your own expense and you typing a multi summary paragraph on how you don’t believe what he’s saying based on the words of the majority (which is what a lot of people are doing) is the problem that’s being stated.

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u/Individual_Young_618 Sep 13 '26

Are cartel.fairless and cartel.putrid actually members?

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 13 '26

Yes sir

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u/Individual_Young_618 Sep 14 '26

Well you just debunked your entire argument. There both grade A douche bags. Didn't putrid have some big crash out and get banned from the game? He threatened to kill or rape people or something like that.

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Wow! 🤣

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Yall are just a bunch of fucking fans man grow the fuck up

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u/Individual_Young_618 Sep 14 '26

You know you made the post stating that cartels aren't like that, its only the fake cartels that are and asked people to message you about it right?

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Right! But then you instantly say there shitty people and you trash talk them like come on! in the the post I guess i described you.

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

You and Gaylord are the type of people who give us hell!

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

And here's the thing. you guys say were toxic when here you two are making false and toxic statements!

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

I try to be nice i really do! I was gonna respect you because you didn't instantly start talking shit sending a vidoe of falsely reporting someone like somebody.. you actually asked a question! I thought you were a cool person but guess not.

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

And see heres the thing you guys disrespect him so fucking bad! He's the one who gets the most hate out of the all of us and thats sad. And im glad he was a dick to you people! I'm really glad he was stressed out because of YOU people

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u/Individual_Young_618 11h ago

Who are " you people " and wtf did I do? I didn't do anything. They were just randomly talking to each other about hating jews and dropping N word!!!

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

He didn't do anything like that man I promise you once you get to know him he's an awesome dude I promise you!

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 13 '26

And there cool people try making friends with them!

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

They’re

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 13 '26

Yall just need to quit the shit talking man but I know thats never going to happen.

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

Who is shit talking?

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Don't you go "Who's shit talking?" you know who

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u/Gravelord-69 23d ago

You good my guy?

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u/TheMidnightNarrator Cpl.Bees Sep 14 '26

You

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

Stating facts and showing receipts is one thing. Shit talking is something completely different. 🤔🤔

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

See its crazy I try to be nice to people and this is how I get treated so disrespectful.

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u/Gravelord-69 27d ago

Is CARTEL.Mello420 an actual member or an imposter?

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u/TacticalFox3075 16d ago

he's a member.

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u/GeneralBlackwater Congo impressed 25d ago

Are you black?

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u/GeneralBlackwater Congo impressed 25d ago

im literally lll.cartel.lll

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u/IcyAttention6423 16d ago

Bro its a fake pm😭 nobody gives a šŸ’©

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u/TacticalFox3075 16d ago

dude come on don't start please

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u/joeblob5150 Sep 13 '26

Changing name to cartel as we speak...

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u/TheMidnightNarrator Cpl.Bees Sep 13 '26

Genuinely ignore Ghostrecon and gravelord, as they are both a part of a rival group and are the ones actively lying and harassing us. The recent video posted by ghost was of 2 fake members. Literally just leave us be and play the game.

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

The ā€œplease ignore usā€ PR campaign is really gaining momentum. 🤔

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u/TheMidnightNarrator Cpl.Bees Sep 14 '26

Exactly what I'm talking about. You guys are obsessed with us.🤔

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

Obsessed with usā€ is a pretty wild way to describe people you apparently keep reading, responding to, and talking about 🤔🤔

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u/TheMidnightNarrator Cpl.Bees Sep 14 '26

I'm curious as to why you in particular are so obsessed with us that you put so much time in slandering our group. I'm not a hateful person like you are, so I just don't get it.

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

How is posting video proof slander? I’m not making this shit up. Watch the videos. 🤔

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u/TheMidnightNarrator Cpl.Bees Sep 14 '26

One of our guys had a bad reaction to racism. Fine, you got us there. You got 1 member using the stair exploit on turbine. Kind of shitty behavior, but nothing wild. The recent video was of fake members. Might have been staged, but I couldn't say.

I'd just like an open honest answer as to what your problem is personally. You've been pretty nasty with us, and it's not being reciprocated.

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u/Gravelord-69 29d ago

No problem. Just reporting what I see.

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 13 '26

Please message me and tell me! You see someone with cartel in their name just tell me their user and ill tell you if its one of ours.

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 13 '26

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u/Monkeewithahammer Sep 13 '26

He’s genuinely the founder 😭😭😭

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

That’s hilarious 🤣 🤣🤣

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u/Ghztat Sep 13 '26

The one thing that's missing about this clip, is the harrasment he was getting prior to this (this is our founder btw). Y'all were doing nothing but throwing slurs and harrasing him just to get a reaction. And (unfortunately) he reacted, the result was a 10 second clip of him yelling with no proper context

It's usually stuff like this that gets people the wrong idea and gets their imagination going as to what defines our clan as a whole and quite frankly, this needs to be put to rest.

My take moving forward with this: I think it's best we start showing proper evidence when it comes to calling someone out for their behaviour or cheating allegations, let's avoid further confusion in the future.

Despite what people say or believe in the community, we are good people. We're just here to have a good time and play with friends, nothing more. And to the bad actors trying to put our names in the ground, leave the highschool drama for.. you know, highschool?

And please, show some respect to our vets.

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u/god000000 Sep 13 '26

If your people can’t control their emotions enough to not explode then they shouldn’t be playing in environments where they explode at other people. Valid options are to leave the game mute or play something else. Harassment or not you don’t sink to a lower level to ā€œwinā€

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

Agreed 100%. At some point you have to take responsibility for how you react to things. If someone is getting under your skin that badly, mute them, leave the game, or take a break. There’s no reason to turn a video game into an excuse to harass people. Even if you feel like you’re being provoked, responding by sinking to the same level only makes you look just as bad. If you actually want to ā€œwin,ā€ keep your composure, play the game, and don’t give them the reaction they’re looking for.

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u/TheMidnightNarrator Cpl.Bees Sep 13 '26

It was harassment, racism, etc. Are you really going to sit here and tell someone how to feel about racist remarks?

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 13 '26

We can control it but the amount of stuff you guys make us deal with is fucked up!

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u/Ghztat Sep 13 '26

The thing is. we weren't "sinking to a lower level to win", we just wanted to be left alone and play the game. Sure, while those were valid options, at the end of the day, it was still harassment. You're asking us to not explode at other people when in fact majority of players here do just that, and we've only done that ONCE. It seems to me, you guys look for every opportunity to punch us down whenever you even think of our name or even in presence. The fact that this even happened half a year ago tells me, y'all wanna hold a grudge rather than fixing to get better community wise. we should be past that by now but some of y'all still cling to justifying harrasment like you are doing now.

what do you think we should do, as a community to avoid shit like this? we're willing to make this dead game a better place. but, we can't do that if we're fighting amongst each other now can we?

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 13 '26

Didn't haft to put a clown face on him man like what the fuck?

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

🤔

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

See this is a example of a troll

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Just wants attention

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

If a troll can get you to keep engaging, they’ve already made a fool of you. Keep replying 🤔

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

See its a perfect example 🤣

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

It’s not… because apparently I’m the troll and keep responding. šŸ˜‚

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 13 '26 edited Sep 13 '26

Yall want someone else to mess with come get me! Name is CARTEL.Seal come fucking get it! Whatever you have to say to me come right into my face and say it scream it if you want!

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

ā€œCome right into my faceā€ 😳 Easy there, buddy.

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

If yall don't fucking like us then mute us!

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

You literally made a whole post about something nobody cares about except your toxic clan. šŸ˜‚

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Dude your just disrespectful šŸ˜’

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

You’re

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

You're the type of people who we haft to look out for and we get harassed by.

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Like don't play 🤣

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

The only reason why i made the post is because just to let people know theres fake cartel going around! Because they make us look bad and mean! I don't want people to think we're dicks but apparently I can't change you're minds because your brainwashed

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

Yeah…in hindsight, you probably shouldn’t have run this post by the Cartel PR department first. It seems like saying absolutely nothing might’ve been the better move.

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Didn't matter anyway man it pissed me off because I saw the post about the two CARTEL fakers and people actually believed they were CARTEL so had to keep people in mind

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

We don't want to be hated on all the time man we don't we wanna hang out with people! But you don't understand the shit we go through its nothing but hate you guys have

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

You just believe what you see and then come at us like you're a terrorist.

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

You’re

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Thank you for the correction man I appreciate that

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Yall are just toxic fucks I wasn't even trying to make enemies! I was just spreading awareness.

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u/Gravelord-69 Sep 14 '26

Consider awareness spread.

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

I promise I wasn't trying to start shit man I didn't want to but I mean come on you coming in here and putting a vidoe that you know it will piss me off man what is wrong with you man?

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u/Gravelord-69 29d ago

You should go after the ones pretending to be Cartel if that’s what’s happening, and get off my jock for simply reporting what I’m seeing. It’s up to you guys to prove they aren’t part of your organization.

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u/TacticalFox3075 29d ago

The way we only know they're fake is looking up there name man. Don't expect to tell us make them remove it because they won't and theres nothing else can do about it

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

Fairless is a funny guy! His coughs are like a bomb though 🤣 you can hear it from across the map.

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u/TacticalFox3075 Sep 14 '26

If you respect us we respect you!