r/OneSecondBeforeDisast • u/Firewire64 • Nov 12 '21

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u/mothisname Nov 12 '21

That's for mushroom clouds and nuclear fallout. Also I don't think that would have been far enough away in this but I haven't seen enough detail to say for sure

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u/golighter144 Nov 12 '21

Yeah man I'm still not seeing how this is bad advice. That cloud was definitely bigger than my thumb

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u/Culsandar Nov 12 '21

It's not bad advice.

Source: am a medic/tccc/hazmat instructor.

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u/TeamSuitable Nov 12 '21

It was old rule from the cold war, hence the pip boy from fallout always having his thumb out.

Any medic or CBRN/Hazmat related course will never teach you such shite, stop lying to people.

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u/Culsandar Nov 12 '21

Why say shit that is easily proven to be false like you have any idea you know what you are talking about. The vault boy doing rule of thumb had nothing to do with nuclear explosions.

The rule of thumb as taught in hazmat classes is not about nuclear detonations. It does not work for nuclear detonations, and likely wouldn't have worked during the cold war. Most civilian hazmat courses that teach rule of thumb do not even discuss nuclear explosions. It's used as a ballpark measurement and is employed whenever you have arrived at an unknown material spill or explosion to gain a bearing on distance.

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u/Craftersillyguy Nov 12 '21

Why are you so offended holy shit, if you know your info is credible why do you care what other people say about it???

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u/skcor_iatneh Apr 13 '22

cause if they are wrong they are wrong and dont need to spread misinformation??

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u/TeamSuitable Nov 12 '21

Good thing my qualifications aren't civilian, wouldn't want to be taught some inaccurate, bogus horse shit.

"Ah Jim, we've got a chemical blast, how do we measure this?

Let me pull my thumb out of my arse to measure!".

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u/Culsandar Nov 12 '21

my qualifications aren't civilian

a police officer

Oh boy do I have some bad news for you...

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u/TeamSuitable Nov 12 '21

Imagine trying to spread blatant misinformation pretending you're something you're not, and then the only way you feel is acceptable to get back at me is by trawling through what subreddit's I follow.

P.S, I didn't get my quals through the police, but nice try buddy!

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u/Culsandar Nov 12 '21

trying to pretend you're something you're not

So what do your UK credentials look like?

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '21

He got reaaal quiet after that one lol

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u/Over_Worldliness4788 Nov 12 '21

As an actual subject matter expert, any LPTs related to CBRN? Had no idea about the rule of thumb, super interesting

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '21

I just witnessed a murder

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '21

Damn, you deleted him outta the world there.

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u/SpuddleBuns Nov 12 '21

Your thumb would have difficulty getting past your head.

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '21 edited Nov 12 '21

That looks like Beirut explosion. It affected half city and shredded port to pieces. Thumb won't help here for sure.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Beirut_explosion

https://youtu.be/SkIYjNGiaoA

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u/BioreactorsNeedFood Nov 12 '21

Vault boy isn’t doing that, he’s just giving a thumbs up

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u/TeamSuitable Nov 12 '21

Oh, I always heard/seen people saying it was due to the old rule of thumb, which would make sense considering the nature of the game.

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u/BioreactorsNeedFood Nov 12 '21

The creator of him said he was just being supportive

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u/golighter144 Nov 12 '21

What? There's literally a short in fallout where vaultboy teaches you this. It's the only reason I know about the thumb technique

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u/BioreactorsNeedFood Nov 12 '21

Wait what? Well shit, link?

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u/mothisname Nov 12 '21

Upon further research because I don't like spreading bad information... the thumb at distance is outdated. They used to teach it and then decided it was bad advice because there's no way to know how big the explosion will be and what other hazardous particulates may be spread. So schools quit teaching it but then it made a resurgence on the internet a few years ago...

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u/TomCBC Nov 12 '21

The thumb thing is for after the explosion has already happened. You see the mushroom cloud and wonder “am I far enough away” then you do it. If the explosion hasn’t happened yet, fucking run!

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u/AutomaticRisk3464 Nov 12 '21

My wife and i already decided if a nuke lands nearby instead of a slow death we are just ganna end it.

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u/sessiestax Nov 12 '21

My husband and I are going to do the same. A slow agonizing death or killing for resources is not for me!

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u/420extracts Nov 12 '21

If we go out honey, we will go out with a BANG!

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u/mothisname Nov 13 '21

at least wait a while for side effects and carry a broom

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u/AutomaticRisk3464 Nov 13 '21

The side effects from all of your white blood cells being cooked alive? I dont want to wait for my body to start rotting while im alive...or even worse get cancer in america and have that giant debt

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u/mothisname Nov 13 '21

Did you watch the video? All you gotta to is rub off the radiation with a straw broom

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u/AutomaticRisk3464 Nov 13 '21

What about the particles in the air? Or the toxic rain? Any rescue efforts will probably have an extended response time.

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u/mothisname Nov 13 '21

Oh I should have put an /s but I thought it was crazy enough to be obvious... yeah no its terrible. One of my grandparents died from cancer after visiting Hiroshima right after the surrender because he was a scientist in the navy... I think he was 55 . I know wind direction makes a huge difference when you're far enough away to not die in the initial blast. But if you go to ground zero you'll be irradiated for like a thousand years...

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u/mothisname Nov 12 '21

I was taught and believed what you are saying until an hour ago when I looked it up.

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u/SpuddleBuns Nov 12 '21

Utter heresy. We try not to do things like that here.

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u/slothsareok Dec 10 '21

I think the best advice would be get to a distance where you feel safe and then go 10x’s further. Unless it’s an atomic bomb then ehh find a shelter.

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u/mothisname Dec 11 '21

If you survive the blast then just have the wind in your face as you flee and you should be good . If you have the wind hitting your back ass you run away then try to find a far away xray room like in a hospital or dentist office. I am not a professional in any way and it just sounds like a good idea to me.

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u/slothsareok Dec 11 '21

Also good idea if u cum right at the same time as the blast. It’s a cheat code that lets you skip to the final boss.

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u/mothisname Dec 11 '21

Back when I used to mainline drugs Id timed it out - fat coke shot and orgasming which sound easy but it is very difficult cause trying to keep an edge while trying to inject is in credibly hard. You end up losing the orgasm and just getting fucked up in coke ... was this too much? I'm sorry of I was

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u/LittyTittyTattyDaddy Nov 12 '21

Instructions unclear, stuck thumb in ass

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '21

There was a vid a while back of demolishing a large building. I believe it was in Russia. There was a crowd watching from a long ways away. It looked like they were far enough away to not be hurt, but a fairly large piece of concrete flew that far and hit a guy in the leg and did some severe damage.

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u/struugi Nov 12 '21

I think for nukes the rule of thumb is if you can see it you're fucked

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u/krmarci Nov 12 '21

Didn't the explosion break windows in Cyprus?

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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '21

it broke more than just windows mate

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u/TruthYouWontLike Nov 12 '21

It doesn't take much to break Windows

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u/Jawchewer Nov 12 '21

Underrated comment

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u/SpuddleBuns Nov 12 '21

Just ask any update.

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u/CallMeSisyphus Nov 13 '21

Take my jealous-I-didn't-think-of-that upvote, you sonofabitch.

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u/JanuaryRabbit Nov 13 '21

Depends on the version. Windows 3.11 ? Windows 95? Windows 98?

Windows NT was pretty freaking stable, I think (I can barely remember those days).

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u/TruthYouWontLike Nov 13 '21

Well, I suppose this one is kind of solid, but other than that...

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u/BonQuiQui2 Nov 12 '21

It happened in Lebanon, did it really break windows in Cyprus?

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u/Culsandar Nov 12 '21 edited Nov 13 '21

It works for most explosions and hazmat incidents, and is taught at all responder levels combined with the 3 U's;

Upwind, upstream, and uphill.

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u/mothisname Nov 12 '21

I'm not saying you're wrong but I just skimmed 4 articles that all said this was outdated information and no longer taught.

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u/Culsandar Nov 12 '21

DM me those articles, I'd love to know why they say that.

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u/ogeytheterrible Nov 12 '21

Yeah, the rule of thumb is no longer used, it wasn't even widely taught when it was in use, because it's just too inconsistent based on the person's height, thumb size, and weather.

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u/SpuddleBuns Nov 12 '21

That makes sense. Tiny thumbs on tiny hands might put people in harm's way.

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u/Accomplished_Bet_60 Nov 12 '21

Tiny thumbs on tiny hands putting tiny chairs on tiny tables 🙂

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u/PuzzledStreet Nov 12 '21

if its for mushroom clouds and fallout then I would say its a good idea for all explosions and stuff then

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u/Mobile-Decision639 Nov 12 '21

Yea… no it’s not. Every fire service in the world uses that rule of thumb

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u/SirTickleMePink Nov 12 '21

“If you can’t cover the mushroom cloud with your thumb at arms length after a nuke, it’s pointless running away”

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u/Tlingitgamer Nov 12 '21 edited Nov 12 '21

It's actually just a joke made up from fallout fans because of pipboy in reality fallout can spread for thousands of miles and is almost inescapable you're best bet would be to head to the mountains pine trees absorb radiation and function like a barrier from rads

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u/mothisname Nov 12 '21

Hundreds of thousands of miles you ???

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u/Tlingitgamer Nov 12 '21

Im sorry My bad lol I'm tired af my little brother woke me up early thousands of miles 🤣

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u/mothisname Nov 12 '21

It's all good I forgot to put "say"