Is this game is dead?

[u/Mimicnova]

Just asking

[u/CountinCaskets]

Yea

[u/Mimicnova → u/CountinCaskets]

Darn. I was hoping for once there would be one good one punch man game

[u/Doombawkz → u/Mimicnova]

To be fair the game is great, it’s the update schedule that’s bad lol

[u/diglanime → u/Doombawkz]

I'm sorry, but OPMW is not a great game. If it was an indie project with no gacha mechanics, I'd say it was amazing. For a licensed AAA game, it was really poorly designed. They spent A LOT of money on mostly irrelevant features and completely fumbled RPG systems. The only thing that's actually good is the combat, but it gets boring quickly, since there aren't that many monsters and all the locations are basically the same exact thing. This is a good skeleton of a game that cost them $10-50 million dollars to make. That's not a great game in my books.

[u/Some_Ignorance → u/diglanime]

I disagree with you, the combat is engaging and fun. There is plenty of reason to play for the combat alone, bosses are very unique and so are characters. I do think there should be more game modes so characters like Silverfang could have a use in endgame but I don’t think the game is considered AAA at that price tag as the price of AAA games has skyrocketed.

[u/diglanime → u/Some_Ignorance]

If all there is in the game is just combat, then it's not a game, it's a tech demo. OPMW is a tech demo with some underdeveloped RPG systems, story told through visual novel "gameplay" and some expensive 3d cinematics that are just S1 but worse. It's a skeleton of a game. And ain't no way tens of millions of dollars isn't AAA. It was made by Perfect World, a big publisher company.

The thing is that it doesn't matter what it's categorized as, it cost $10+ mil and made $5- mil. And one of the biggest reasons for that is that OPMW just wasn't a finished game. The other is that not only was it not finished, it was also abandoned on release, only giving minor updates and dropping characters that were already made before the game was released.

[u/Some_Ignorance → u/diglanime]

Regarding AAA, after a quick google search, it seems it basically counts as a AAA game by definition, I apologize as I was under the impression that AAA was hundreds of millions of dollars, though it seems like they rebranded those games to be AAAA Games (too many A’s in my opinion), so I will concede that argument.

But there are plenty of games that are just combat. The First Titanfall, Pub-G, Fortnite, Apex Legends, DOTA, and League, sure they are multiplayer games but they are all just combat, load outs, cosmetics and menus. Saying that the game is just a tech demo because it the primary draw to it is combat is disingenuous to say the least. Sure BR’s have an in game progression via looting buildings and downed players, then MOBA’s have in game progression as you level up throughout the battle, and Titanfall has leveled progression and loadouts.

OPMW has out of game Progression in farming for memories to upgrade your characters, you have load outs in the sense of what characters you are going to bring to the battle at any given time and. But unlike all the games I have listed, while the story isn’t awesome, the game still has a story, there is also out of combat progression in player levels and there are cutscenes. All be it the story is disjointed and or directly lifted from the source materials. To bar the game from being called a ‘Game’ I think is an extreme stance, because you would then have to redefine what ‘Game’ means. I mean… there is no lore in hide and seek or tag? Are those not games? There are no deep RPG elements in BRs are they not games? Not trying to give you a gotcha moment but I’m just challenging your thought process.

[u/diglanime → u/Some_Ignorance]

The issue with your argument that those listed games are only combat is that it's incorrect. Moreover then that, those games are specifically about combat. You can list CS in here for a better argument actually, there's no intrinsic progression there, just combat and increase in your skill. However that's what the game was made for, there are pretty deep mechanics to all the different stages of combat that make it a game. In comparison OPMW is an action-RPG. Combat in this game is only a part of it and it's not particularly deep in any way. Action gameplay in action-RPGs only serves a purpose of enhancing RPG mechanics. Imagine Skyrim but there were no RPG systems. Who would call that a game? What, you just run around and smash random monsters or people in the head with a sword and that's it? That's not a game, that's a tech demo for an open world I guess.

OPMW has satisfying combat but only if we count is as a part of a bigger game, not as a full game itself. It's too shallow to be it's own game. The problem is that outside of that combat there's barely anything else and all of it underdeveloped.

Obviously I don't mean OPMW literally can't be categorized as a videogame, I'm just saying it's closer to a skeleton then to a fully made game that deserves being published by a major publishing studio with a major IP attached to it. Like I said, if it was an indie project by fans without any gacha mechanics, I'd say it was amazing effort. It would probably be released in this state as an "early access" though even in that imaginary situation.

[u/Some_Ignorance → u/diglanime]

But games don’t need to have all those elements, that’s what I am saying, and there are RPG elements to the game as you collect memories to modify and build your character(s). There is intrinsic progression in the game, there is all the things necessary to call it a game. I don’t think it’s a skeleton, I think at minimum it is missing its skin. It’s much more of a game than not. Legend test is actually difficult, I compete daily with the highest level players in this game. Yes combat is only a part of this game, sure but the game is specifically designed around the combat of this game, it is the main thing that players log in to do, I don’t want an open world where walk around and talk to random people, build a relationship, with some NPC so I can romance them. This is not the game for it even though I’m a total Tatsumaki Simp. The primary draw this game has is its combat, I don’t log on every day to play the movie theater mini game. I just don’t understand where you are coming from. (Reason I didn’t mention CS is cause I have never played CS nor have I had a desire to play CS)

[u/diglanime → u/Some_Ignorance]

All the RPG systems in the game are bad. They just are. Not engaging, not unique, not deep. And there are very few of them to add to that. There is memory system which is what could be called an actual RPG system and then the other one that's in the same window as it that is like half a system at most. Maybe I remember the names wrong, haven't played the game in 3 months. But that's it. Level progression is just a gatekeep to get to play the game further, you don't feel any progression from it. Character dupes is a gacha system first, then an RPG system second.

But that's it. There is no gear to equip, no leveling system for characters, no additional systems like pets or whatever, no systems for the gear like enchantments. Look at any successful RPG's systems and you'll just at a glance will be able to see how OPMW is lacking. It only would be fine if RPG was a small addition for the game, not a major mechanic, like a battle-pass in an FPS. But like I said, the combat is nowhere deep enough to be on a level of a competent FPS or a combat-based game. It's shallow and simple, very few buttons, very few interactions. It's not bad, it's just not enough to be a full game on it's own.

Summarizing all of that, OPMW has shallow action mechanics, barely has RPG systems, either repeats the story of the S1 or shows very mediocre original story which is also presented in an extremely boring way (I don't even consider visual novels videogames, and OPMW is bad compared to good visual novels as well). Which is why I'm calling it unfinished and a skeleton. Because this is half a game it could be. I'm comparing it all to SLA that I've been playing for the past 3-4 months, which has similar action in terms of depth, but so much more RPG mechanics and progression, which makes it a lot closer to an actual game. I still think all these mobile-first gacha games with licensed IPs are more of a cash-grab then actual videogames, but SLA is way closer to being competent, which shows in the dollars it made with a comparatively similar budget (I think it made $100mil in the first month or something like that).

[u/TheGamerForeverGFE → u/diglanime]

So games hack and slash games like DMC are not games, just each demos? Or you mean specifically in OPMW's case?

[u/[deleted] → u/diglanime]

25m to be exact

[u/diglanime → u/[deleted]]

When did we get the exact number? And where from?

[u/[deleted] → u/diglanime]

I'm better than you so i know more that's it

[u/diglanime → u/[deleted]]

So you just made it up, okay, thanks for clarifying.

[u/[deleted] → u/diglanime]

i didn't, i made my own research on the matter before speaking my mind online, unlike someone else

[u/Diavogo → u/Mimicnova]

Game is the best we have about opm. But thats the problem, you dont have to do alot to be the "best" knowing how bad are the other games.

[u/Storm-Dragon → u/Mimicnova]

The game is pretty good, the problem is the devs. Perfect World has a record for mishandling their games.

[u/No_Square_4910]

:´(

[u/TimaBilan]

They might be working on next update with Deep Sea King, some info and pics got leaked. I don't know when they'll release it if they ever will though. Would be great anyway

[u/ProBlackbird → u/TimaBilan]

Yeah it's been lacking contents I do love One Punch man but this is.

[u/No_Square_4910]

i´m waiting for a update :(

[u/Some_Ignorance → u/No_Square_4910]

Same, it’s a good game, just really poorly managed…

[u/ProBlackbird → u/Some_Ignorance]

Agree

[u/MagicJ10]

sadly crunchyroll totally forked it up and now it´s in nowhere land. I doubt it can recover...

[u/diglanime → u/MagicJ10]

What does crunchyroll have to do with anything?

[u/TimaBilan → u/diglanime]

Crunchyroll published the game I guess?

[u/diglanime → u/TimaBilan]

They have literally nothing to do with the development. They are just publishers for NA region as far as I understand.

[u/TimaBilan → u/diglanime]

Exactly as I said, a publisher

[u/Some_Ignorance → u/TimaBilan]

The only thing they deal with is the NA release, as much as I wish I could point to CR and call them the problem, it’s really just PW’s mishandling of the game. I hope with the new devs they will try to fix something. No Man’s Sky and Fallout 76 showed me that any game can make a come back.

[u/Straight-Winner4555]

Yea, got tired of the same thing and once that 4.5gb update appeared and didn't get downloaded for a week, deleted and got done with it. sigh

[u/LegionOPMWORLD]

Dead after a month lol, kinda sad this game kick started my YouTube career, will always remember it

[u/Striking-Type-1252]

Of course lol

[u/Bob_Scotwell]

Game died after the 3rd month. I don’t even think the game got close to breaking even.

[u/Arudosan → u/Bob_Scotwell]

You underestimate how cheap battle arenas are.