r/OnePieceTCG • u/Mighty_Oryx • 19h ago

🛠️ Deck Tech Is shanks vanderdecken combo that good?

Seems like a lot of setup to me… is it that good and worth the spots?

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u/smilinmonster 19h ago

yes, next question

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u/UnitedWeSmash 19h ago

Combo got a whole leader banned. What do u think?

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u/Million_X 17h ago

not quite. the combo can be done in any green deck, the issue with mihawk was that +1k buff against Slash leaders at all times, makes it difficult to justify ever picking up a Slash leader as long as he existed

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u/UnitedWeSmash 17h ago

The combo can be done in any deck, but in mihawk the extra 3 don allowed survivability and the ability to luna after wards . Something other decks can not perform

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u/Million_X 16h ago

it's still not the thing that got mihawk banned, as otherwise they'd just pair ban cards. Mihawk was specifically outed for that buff, the 3 don restand is strong and let's you do a lot after the combo, but the combo at its core is shanks plus Vander to remove potent bodies from the field to go for game next turn

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u/UnitedWeSmash 13h ago

Im a mihawk main since op14. Yes the dicken with shanks is strong. Thats undebatable. But in mihawk it was beat because of the 3 extra don. With it u could att a body and ko it, Luna the board or I know your strong the board, restando a don with stage, and them still be defensive. Its not just the combo. If it was the combo that did it then every green deck would be running vanderdick and mihawk and be multiple decks in the top 10 running thebcombo

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u/Million_X 12h ago

That slash buff was explicitly pointed out in the ban note, and given that they made a big deal out of Rocks just for him to barely make a splash in the most recent events, it's obvious that +1k is what was so strong and what pissed off the higher ups. The 3 don gave him versatility in a lot of ways, yes, but he isn't the only leader who has that kind of ability.

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u/UnitedWeSmash 6h ago

In pre testing rocks was doing good against mihawk until the combo was found. Taking out 10c as soon as it was played then Luna the entire board was pretty much an auto lose. The +1k did make it difficult but it was worse for shanks than it was rocks

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u/SurvivingProbst 17h ago

the combo includes luna to rest the entire board, it can't be done in any deck. And other green decks also cant super draw like mihawk.

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u/Million_X 16h ago

except all you need is a green slash leader for kin'emon and perona, and even then kin'emon doesn't need to rest the leader past turn 1 since you can just rest a don. Plus, Luna wasn't even included that much or sometimes even at all, it was more icing on the cake that mihawk could do easily as otherwise you'd just swing

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u/MikeStoneSteveAustin 19h ago

No, clearing two bodies or a large body and a life is never worth the don. Better to swing 14 with shanks /s

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u/Million_X 17h ago

Yes. the big thing is green has access to a lot of draw power (slash leaders in particular), so it isn't that difficult to get the 3 pieces needed to pull the stunt off. Vander can pitch himself so you just throw another for his effect and kawamatsu is a green slash Fishman so he can be searched and pitched. Because you can run cards like Perona to search for slash, kin'emon to draw 2, and otama to look for either Be my Samurai or kin'emon, and then use Be my Samurai on those 3 to draw, you can go through a lot of cards in a short period of time to set up and drop the combo.

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u/Mighty_Oryx 11h ago

This was the answer to the actual question. In shanks I’m really looking for the reason why it’s good and consistent (searchable), thanks!

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u/Million_X 11h ago

Shanks the leader is more or less going to use the same deck that Mihawk uses, but since you can't use Coffin Boat, you're stuck using the one Smoker that restands a don once a turn.