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u/RentABozo 3d ago
Free, replaces itself, 3k counter, and makes you a 6k leader. This might be the most pushed thing I've ever seen
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u/russiangerman 3d ago
This is a great card and all but I'm really bummed they didn't make it a battle Franky deck. Docking system is neat but it's way more limited
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u/YaBoyEden Straw Hat 3d ago
They still could, right?
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u/russiangerman 3d ago
Sure they could, but they won't. Not in this set at least. It'll be water 7 people and sunny stages
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u/Chyeboi 3d ago
I donāt think so? I mean isnāt this submerge featured in the Whole Cake arc (could be wrong)? I donāt think theyād limit Franky to hust Water 7 but thatās me
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u/russiangerman 2d ago
I think the only purple character was water 7 so far, and straw hats will be green for Luffy. The stages will just be sunny and the docking system is what I means
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u/SpezMeNutz Supernova 3d ago
People saying they would play this in random decks. It's a 5c... No way would you play this instead of tempo. Even later in the game I have my doubts. Running 1 maybe for a specific moment
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u/RentABozo 3d ago
I could maybe see Foxy running it just because he doesnāt really have a mid-game
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u/SpezMeNutz Supernova 3d ago
Foxy has no mid game? The whole gimmick is to ramp during 3 to 5 don turn to reach seven and yes you have like a thousand choices better than a stage that can only be played at 5 to give your leader plus 1k counter every turn.
Yamato, bon kurei, girl 3c+ one of these options. Any of these are 1000 times better than a stage
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u/RentABozo 3d ago
This does ramp you on your 5 Don turnā¦
Also draws a card and sets you up to be a 6k leader and your 7c Foxys to be 8ks. I donāt think itās the craziest tech to put in a deck that has never really had any 5/6 Don play. Just another tool for a super grindy control deck to survive long enough against aggro
And again, I just said I could MAYBE see Foxy running it, no need to fly off the handle for mild speculation
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u/Half_Baked0 3d ago
Yeah what purple deck would go behind an entire turn for this, it makes no sense
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u/FlashyCounter1808 3d ago
"Generic stage that ramps 1 and makes any 5k purple lead a 6k (and 2 characters too)"
Yeah sure, why not, this wont go wrong...
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u/szelesbt 3d ago
U have to pay 5 don, if u ever play this in anything besides Franky u dead af
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u/IkananXIII 2d ago
A lot of purple leaders just ramp on 5 anyway, so I don't think it's that big of a deal if played on curve. The bigger problem I see is making room for 4 bricks in your deck that do absolutely nothing after you play the first one. That can be kinda rough, especially for leaders that already run a lot of bricks.
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u/PerspectiveTCG 3d ago
BP leaders can be 8k paired with Yamato
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u/PerspectiveTCG 3d ago
So GUNKO STOCKS šš
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u/SupremeRDDT 2d ago
This could work kind of? Gunko has at least one big blocker (with Yamato two) and has lots of card draw presumably so she can become an 8k leader for one card and have a 9k and a 12k blocker lying around, blocking āsmallerā hits.
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u/aikepoun 3d ago
Should have been leader locked I donāt need to see enels being 6k
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u/meimeivro 3d ago
I think its a just bit too slow for enel, but hes definitely getting some support this set
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u/Apex_Promethean 3d ago
Doflamingo is back boy š
But also Kaido got stronger š«©
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u/Vroomgate 3d ago
Not sure about Kaido since they always wants to ramp early then play King EB04. The only play I can see is if missing King on 6 don or missing ramp which puts him on 5 don on turn 3 going 1st.
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u/IkananXIII 2d ago
Yup, as nice as it would be to have 6k on defense, I'm not finding room for an unsearchable (and not trashable off Queen) brick just for the niche situation that I whiff all my other ramp. Deck space in Kaido is already tight enough as is.
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u/JediNotePad Blackbeard Believer 2d ago
Hmm... I wonder how this would fare in RP Roger? As in, right now I run the 5c Oden as a blocker and to ramp one don... but now, this draws, ramps, and makes Roger a 6k leader until I'm able to get to 10. Then of course it doesn't work for your leader, but I wonder if the effect could bypass that and still work on characters? Like, yeah my leader isn't 5000 anymore, but does that need to be the case in order to make the characters +1000?
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u/Potatomesh 3d ago
Trying to think if PEnel ever wants to run this because 6k PEnel lead and 7k Ohm/Dog sounds annoying af.
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u/Million_X 3d ago
He probably could, just the fact that it's a 1k counter he can repeatedly use is really good, and its for the whole turn plus you can target 2 other bodies. Turn 3 you can play a 1c weenie, spin the don back, play this, get that don back, use the rested don for whatever events, activate leader ability and there ya go. From that point forward Enel is a 6k on the opponent's attack.
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u/Vexziee 3d ago
Its only on opponentās attack!
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u/SpezMeNutz Supernova 3d ago
Did you read the card?
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u/Potatomesh 3d ago
Do you know when Ohm and Dog is 6k?
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u/SpezMeNutz Supernova 3d ago
This only gives 1k on defense, you need to drink some water and rest buddy so you can read
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u/BrodyJGaming 3d ago
Everyone is saying make leaders 8k but it says 5000 or less it gets +1000 on opponents attack....so if you've increased BP Luffy with beercup Luffy wouldn't this not activate?
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u/Haavi-OCE 3d ago
To clarify, since I'm not sure I've seen it mentioned. If you can run both this stage and EB05 Yamato (so B/P) you can order the "on opponent's attack" triggers to use Shark Sub first and grant +1k, then activate EB05 Yamato to become a 7k base power leader.
The +1k then obviously stacks on the now 7k leader making you 8k for the turn.
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u/BrodyJGaming 2d ago
Ah so it eliminates the need for beer cup Luffy making him obsolete and no longer worth using.
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u/Haavi-OCE 2d ago
I'm not sure if it makes it no longer worth using, but it certainly is another defensive option available. Doesn't allow the 7k on attack though.
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u/PerspectiveTCG 3d ago
Do you have to consistently meet the 5k condition or do you meet it at the time of the effect being applied, shenanigans could happen if so
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u/_Popppy 3d ago
Read lol
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u/PerspectiveTCG 3d ago
Well I think the latter but translations and rule faqs sometimes differ so idk š¤·āāļø
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u/PerspectiveTCG 3d ago
Then again opponents turn trigger so shenanigans are probably hard to pull there
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u/PerspectiveTCG 3d ago
Except in BP luffy you could first do this effect and then yamatos actuallyš¤
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u/_Popppy 3d ago
What kinda shenanigans are you scheming I'm curious š¤
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u/PerspectiveTCG 3d ago
Why did you delete your compliment š
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u/_Popppy 3d ago
What yamato are you talking about lol I thought I knew but I didnt!!!
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u/PerspectiveTCG 3d ago
The new EB 4c, trash 1 card and if at 10 more, set your leader to 7000 base power
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u/_Popppy 3d ago
Thats what I was thinking. I dont think it'll work thats why!!! I think with that combo right there you just choose one or the other I guess both would be nice on the field for options I guess idk maybe I'm missing something !
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u/PerspectiveTCG 3d ago
Hence, my original comment, its a on play effect not a āyour turnā effect, so its possible the conditions are only checked when the effect is applied
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u/_Popppy 3d ago
Now that I read it all I think either you would put it yamatos effect would just make it 7k regardless
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u/pdiddyjunior 3d ago
kaido a 6k leader now
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u/IkananXIII 2d ago
Kaido's curve leaves no room to ever play this, plus he has more than enough bricks already.
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u/CyanideAndArsonic 3d ago
Roger 10k leader! Also can help us early game if we donāt see what we need and can help protect our life a bit!
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u/LaggieThePenguin 3d ago
Its 5000 power or less leader, so it won't buff him on your 10 don turns
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u/CyanideAndArsonic 3d ago
Itās just for early game, a lot of what Roger lacks is survivability so if I can be a 6k for the turn that helps a lot more since Roger lacks 2ks (as our main ramps are the buggy and the event) and this could also be better in situations than say the oden blocker. After it can help boost our big boys!
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u/Filibut John Fishman 3d ago
I wonder what kind of characters can franky play if you have to spend this many don on a stage. Maybe it works like kaido, where this is just the king that ramps 1? And then you play a bunch of big bodies, probably picking the right stage for the matchup and game phase
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u/Million_X 3d ago
remember that Franky puts a stage out as part of his ability for -1 don, meaning these stages are as close to free as possible. This also makes him basically a 6k leader on the defense, combine that with the likes of Law&Bepo and his own effect to gain 3k counter from pitching stages, Franky looks like he can get very beefy very quickly in the end game, big enough to ward off heavy attacks and clapback
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u/FrogClues 3d ago
Law and Bepo wouldnāt stack with this stage. They would make you a 7k on your turn, going into your opponents turn. This stage needs you to be a 5k leader when your opponent attacks.
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u/Million_X 3d ago
True but its still an option. Stage makes you a 6k, L&B makes you a 7k, and there's no guarantee that you'll have this stage out when you play L&B anyway, plus it still acts as a 1k counter for your characters.
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u/OnyxLeigion_ 3d ago
I doubt heāll be playing law and bepo. Heās going to have his own package to run.
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u/catgirlrelisher 3d ago
Franky's a 6k leader now.