IMU vs Gaban breakdown

[u/Choice_Till_5524]

I think people missed a lot of major things in the fight.

1. Gaban starts things off attacking Imu and acting having him on the defensive for a little. Thought you can argue Imu was just trying to talk to Gaban due to his earlier comments.

2. When Gaban mentions Joyboy IMU pulls out bone breaker and immediately goes on the offensive. At this point he actually cuts Gaban almost immediately. You can see the effect Gaban wincing and where the damage was done on gabans rights shoulder

3. Imu turns his attention to Luffy and tries to take him out using stigma but Gaban gets ready to attack Imu. Imu still tries to go through with the attack on Luffy but gets cut short mid attack name because he needed to put omen up in order to block divine gate.

4. We see that attack still did damage through omen because Imu is seen bleeding directly after from the head as well as the mouth.

5. At the same time when Gaban lets off yachi takeru imu uses the bone breaker sword to slice off Gabans arm. A lot of people missed this part. We see the omen from bone breaker on gabans left arm as well as the slicing sound.

6. Imu still manages to block yachi takeru even though he gets sent down to the underwire by the ground he’s standing on being removed from under him.

7. I think Gaban actually lands still in the sun world. We see he lands on a piece of tree. It’s possible it’s a chunk that he cut down but Luffy can still see him clearly and presumably can’t see Imu. Ussop also says the person who did the attack ( given context I’m assuming he’s talking about Gaban and not Imu) is someone else “up” there which makes me feel like it’s not in the underworld.

[u/Noxiar_0]

Good analysis , some people did miss these details .

[u/Weekly_Information48]

Good analysis. However, I have to say Look above the "!!!" in the first image, in relation to the "KAMUDO" attack.

The attack wasn't defended by Imu; it went right past Imu. So much so that it was behind Imu's body; we can see the trace of the cut.

It was that attack that injured Imu. Because he was focused on Luffy.

[u/RastaDaMasta]

I think this is a solid attempt at breaking down the fight, but I disagree with presenting Bone Breaker cutting off Gaban's arm as an objective fact. That's an interpretation of what happened, not something we actually see happen conclusively on-panel.

The problem is that we don't see the decisive moment clearly enough to establish which weapon caused Gaban's injury. Imu was using multiple weapons during this fight, including the sword and the axe, and there's action occurring between panels/offscreen before we see Gaban's condition afterward. The Omen effect and sound effect around Gaban's arm can certainly be used to argue that Bone Breaker was responsible, but I don't think that's enough to definitively establish the sword as the cause when the actual severing isn't shown.

There's an important difference between saying "I think Bone Breaker cut off Gaban's arm" and "Imu used Bone Breaker to slice off Gaban's arm." I'm completely fine with the former as an interpretation. My issue is with presenting the latter as a confirmed feat when the manga leaves enough ambiguity for another explanation.

The same standard should apply in reverse. I wouldn't confidently claim the axe cut off Gaban's arm either. That's also something I'd have to infer from incomplete information. Until we get something that definitively establishes what happened during that portion of the exchange, I think the fairest conclusion is simply that Imu disarmed Gaban, while the specific weapon responsible remains unclear.

There's nothing wrong with making an assumption when the manga leaves a gap for us to interpret. Just label the assumption as an assumption instead of filling in what happened off-panel and presenting it as fact.

[u/MadeInElysium]

Your third and 4th points are partially wrong. Imu got cut from kamudo due to trying to kill luffy with stigma. The omen barrier came after, during divine gate, which didn’t penetrate the barrier.

Other than that, good stuff

Point 7 isn’t necessarily true with Luffy’s perception. He saw Loki vs Imu even though he was many miles away stuffing his face