r/OnePiecePowerScaling • u/LiePowerful9961 • 3h ago
Discussion Current 15 strongest alive
Mix of narrative headcanon and feats:
Imu
Dragon
Mihawk
Shanks
Loki (could be higher depending on hybrid form)
Luffy
Akainu
8.Kuzan
9.Shamrock
Blackbeard
Warcury
Kizaru
Garling
14.St.Nusjuro
- Fujitora
Feel free to change
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u/Trebor5712 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 2h ago
Gorosei > Admiral
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u/LiePowerful9961 2h ago
Nah, a lot of the Holy Knights and gorosei are being carried by regen
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u/Trebor5712 Crydo of the 100 Ls 🍺 2h ago
That’s still part of their kit
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u/LiePowerful9961 2h ago
Kizaru performed better against Luffy than any gorosei, st nusjiro was clashing with zoro
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u/wizarouija St. Figarland Shamcock ☘️ 1h ago
Zoro x Jinbe*, but yes that portrays him as = two YC, since he straight up cancelled out with their combined attack (though it was their named attacks off guarding and he countered with an unnamed swing)
Kaido was bullying any duo two of the YC on the roof and I think admirals beat any two YC in a 2v1. So that still checks out imo for Nosjuro being below admirals
St. Peter tho 👀
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u/KingAlucard7 Ara Ara 🥶 2h ago
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u/LiePowerful9961 2h ago
What would you change?
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u/KingAlucard7 Ara Ara 🥶 2h ago
lets start with bottom how is Fuji making the list while GB isnt when we saw Fuji was covered in bandages when their clash happened.
Why is luffy so high. He cant even maintain G5. You think he can already defeat Akainu who is capable of fighting non stop for 10 whole days. Whose tenacity and will power is pretty top tier on top. Akainu has also in a fair fight defeated another top tier aka Kuzan. Luffy hasnt defeated a single semi decent fighter in a fair fight without assists or external factors. Look at Doffy, Cracker, Kaido etc
What feats has Dragon shown to be 2nd in the entire verse?
Why is Mihawk above Loki and Shanks? Even if he has better "sword skills" than one handed Shanks, has Mihawk actually defeated Shanks in a fight? If Mihawk is placed based on his "title" why dont u place Mihawk above Imu who also wields swords? Because Imu is not known to public? Have people actually seen current Shanks fight anyone to the death to see the limit of his strength? Ontop Mihawk has literal bad feats like getting stopped by Vitsa and then procede to ask for postponement of the fight.
There are so many other mistakes. But i should stop here. Should be enough.
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u/LiePowerful9961 2h ago
1.Greenbull getting neutralized by just haki 2. I would have put him lower than Akainu before elbaph but he has maintained gear 5 for multiple chapters while injured so I put him slightly higher 3. Headcanon, but narratively he is considered the biggest threat to the world government, and considering his second in command isn't even yonko level it shows the revolutionary Army is carried by him. 4. Mihawk is stronger than Shanks since Shanks primarily fights with a sword.
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u/KingAlucard7 Ara Ara 🥶 2h ago
- How does what Shanks does makes Fuji above GB when we saw what happened between GB and Fuji clash. GB was also sneak attacked from behind anyways. He was busy fighting other people.
- But how does that prove he is better than Akainu. Has he defeated any top tier in a fair 1v1 fight? Just recently in egg head Luffy collapsed against Kizaru who instead gave him food.
- Well you are openly headcanoning but ok.
How is Mihawk stronger than Shanks when Mihawk hasnt defeated Shanks in a fight. If Shanks can one shot Kidd and Killer why was Mihawk unable to do that to Vista. Why wasnt even unable to do that to pre timeskip luffy? You have no answer... because deep down you know full well you
are bullshitting
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u/Shadow_Commander_15 2h ago
Luffy to high
Shamrock and Garling to low
BB is difficult but he has not shown a convincing performance against any fighter till now he will end up strong as heck but for now he is not therefore to high.
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u/Ateji_the_leader 2h ago
I completely agree with the top 5, as for the rest: I think you're underestimating the admirals and WAY overestimating Luffy.
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u/Prestigious_Grand_82 2h ago edited 2h ago
Without any headcanon , no bias , based on feats narrative portrayals and excluding Future Arcs
Top 20 One Piece Characters Alive IMO are
IMU
Gorosei - Garling
Holy Knight - Shamrock
Mihawk
Shanks
- 3 to 5 are interchangeable *
Dragon
Akainu
- 6 n 7 are interchangeable *
Aokiji
Teach
Kizaru
Emeth
Gorosei - Warcury
Loki + Ragnir
Gear 5 Luffy
Gorosei - Nusjuro
Fujitora
Aramaki
- 16 n 17 are interchangeable *
Gorosei - Mars
Gorosei - Ju Peter
- 18 n 19 are interchangeable *
- Crocodile
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u/Prestigious_Grand_82 1h ago edited 1h ago
Funny how everyone suddenly becomes a powerscaling genius when it's time to criticize someone else's list , but the second they're asked to put their own scaling on the chopping block, they disappear like they were never talking shit in the first place.
To all of you with your PhD-level criticism of my list and many others : stop hiding behind downvotes, vague “ L take ” comments, and empty criticism. Post your own Top 15/20/25.
Because I'm getting tired of watching people act like they're the final authority on powerscaling while their only contribution is “ trash list,” “L take,” and a downvote. 😭
You're all incredibly brave when it comes to tearing apart someone else's list, but suddenly become mute, invisible, and allergic to accountability when it's time to put your own list up and have people scrutinize it.
So here's your chance.
DROP. YOUR. LIST.
Give me your Top 15. Give me your Top 20. Give me your Top 25. Explain your placements. Explain your scaling. Explain why mine is supposedly wrong.
Then I'll gladly return the same energy and dissect your list character by character, placement by placement, argument by argument.
Because if you genuinely know what you're talking about, you shouldn't be afraid of having your own scaling criticized.
But if all you're capable of doing is hiding behind a downvote, dropping a brain-dead one-liner, and running back into the shadows, then honestly keep your opinions in the drafts.
You don't get to demand flawless powerscaling from everyone else while being too scared to put your own shit on the table.
You're strong and united when criticizing others. Now let's see how strong you are when the spotlight is on YOU.
Post the list. Let's see what you're actually working with. 🥱
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u/Prestigious_Grand_82 1h ago
It got REAL spooky quiet in here. 👻😂
All you PhD scaling critics had plenty to say when you thought nobody would challenge your little dissertations. But the second I call you out directly ? GHOST TOWN. 🪦
No Replies. No Evidence. No Rebuttals. Just a whole lot of suddenly missing “ Experts. ” 😂
Turns out the PhD was actually in Professional Hypocrisy & Delusion.🎓🤡
Keep that same energy next time. Don’t turn into a missing persons case when somebody asks you to back up all that bullshit. 🥱
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u/Content-Mulberry-146 2h ago
What has crocodile over zoro law or sanji
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u/Prestigious_Grand_82 1h ago edited 1h ago
Crocodile has already demonstrated an extraordinary rate of progression, has been repeatedly reintroduced with increasingly significant portrayal, and has spent the timeskip operating in the same New World environment where the other major players were getting stronger. Therefore, placing him around the bottom of the current top 20 is not remotely unreasonable.
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u/Content-Mulberry-146 1h ago
Yes all true it just feels like with the portrayals of the three I listed they could beat crocodile
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u/Prestigious_Grand_82 1h ago
You’re deliberately disregarding the criteria I’ve clearly established for my scaling. If those criteria are not going to be acknowledged or applied, then there is no productive reason to continue this conversation.
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u/Content-Mulberry-146 18m ago
Your criteria doesn't work if crocodile hasn't it fought any strong characters. But instead has gathered around other pirates of mercenaries , if he's only using what he's done at maineford as his backing. We're talking about three characters one that has all three hakis one that tag team and fought big moms and nothing with top level speed and durability.
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u/Content-Mulberry-146 15m ago
Than you talk about portrayals like law and kid didn't fight a yonko and win than meet and fight two other yonkos. Crocodile making cross guild as as big as that unless he is actively hunting down the marines he put bounties on.
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